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CityEnd 23-02-2005 07:01 PM

HOW TO: HID installation and review for BA Astina (94-98) *56K warning*!!
 
ok, Even though I got HIDs in December, I finally got off my ass to finish up this installation guide and review on HIDs for the BA astina, hope you guys find it useful.

Tools needed

HID conversion kit
http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...na/HIDs/T2.jpg
screw driver (only needed for the hardtop)
10mm socket wrench
stanly knife
nuts and bots(I used M5 x 20mm) or cable ties


Removing headlight
I recommend removing the headlight as it makes it easier to install the bulbs

1. remove parkerlight
this is only required for the hardtop, if you have a hatch skip to the next step :)

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...a/HIDs/1.1.jpg
unscrew the parker where shown and then pull parker forward

2. disconnect headlight

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...a/HIDs/1.2.jpg
unplug the headlights here

3. remove headlight
using the 10mm socket wrench unbolt the headlights where indicated

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye.../HIDs/1.3a.jpg
for the hardtop

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye.../HIDs/1.3b.jpg
the hatch


Removing globe

1. open socket
open socket by twisting it clockwise and then pull

2. disconnect globe

3. undo pin latches

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...a/HIDs/2.3.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye.../HIDs/2.3b.jpg

4. remove globe


Installing hid globe

1. remove globe from casing
2. put into headlight housing
3. secure pin latches

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...ina/HIDs/3.jpg


Modifying socket
this is needed so that the wires of the hids fit through them


1. remove rubber grommet

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...a/HIDs/4.1.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye.../HIDs/4.2a.jpg

2. cut hole large enough for socket to fit through it

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye.../HIDs/4.2b.jpg

3. feed big socket through then smaller socket

4. close socket


Mounting ballast

1. bolt ballast securely to car
find secure places to bolt the ballast

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...ina/HIDs/5.jpg

Wiring up

1. connect HID globe to ballast
2. connect ballast to headlight wires
3. connect headlight wires back to car

Reinstall headlight

1. reinstall headlight
2. reinstall parkerlight.


Adjusting headlight
once you have the HIDs install make sure you adjust your headlight so they are aligned properly, so that it doesn't irritate other drivers.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...a/HIDs/8.1.jpg
turn clockwise to tilt down
turn anticlockwise to tilt up

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...a/HIDs/8.2.jpg
turn clockwise to tilt in
turn anticlockwise to tilt out

just a tip to remember which way to turn, just remember that clockwise will make them go down and in


Review

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...na/HIDs/R3.jpghttp://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...na/HIDs/R2.jpg

Awesome results, it dramatically improves visibility at night. At first they seems really blue, but I quickly got used to them and they just look white to me now, it was very obvious right before dust I had the headlights on and they just looked like natural light, which means they are easier on the eyes than the normal halogen globes.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...na/HIDs/R1.jpghttp://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...na/HIDs/R4.jpg

Cost was an issue when i was thinking about getting the HIDs, they aren't cheap, and I'm sure a lot of you feel the same way, however what made me finally take the plunge was the fact that it was not just a rice mod, it actually improves the safety of night driving, and now that I have HIDs I will continue to get them in the future when I own other cars, I have seen the light and I can not go back to halogen.

some people have concerns about the annoyance factor on other drivers, I can say as long as you adjust the headlights properly and point them down, then it's not a problem. If you look at the picture below, as long as the line of the light is below eye level then it won't irritae any oncoming drivers.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...na/HIDs/R5.jpg

pros
improves visibility at night
closer to daylight color, easier on the eyes
longer life span then normal globes
low wattage
looks cool

cons
price
a bit of modification to fit into astina

that concludes the review, I hope you found it useful =)
all comments welcome, and I'll try to answer any questions you have.

P.S. admins, would it be possible to upload the pics onto the astinagt server?

platypus 23-02-2005 11:03 PM

ow the pics hurt my eyes.....

project.r.racing 23-02-2005 11:14 PM

Price? My car doesn't take Blue globe as it may have a earthing prob. any blue globe fitted on the right side blows within 3 hours. Would 1 of these kits fix this prob as in earths itself?

Ryan

platypus 23-02-2005 11:29 PM

just rewire your lighting earths

and what you doing with blue globes?

CityEnd 24-02-2005 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeJay RyRy
Price? My car doesn't take Blue globe as it may have a earthing prob. any blue globe fitted on the right side blows within 3 hours. Would 1 of these kits fix this prob as in earths itself?

Ryan

the price of these HIDs are $550

does your normal globe have any problem with the right side? if not then the hids won't have any problem either, and the ballast regulates the power going into the globe.

and i just want to clear things up that these are not the same as the blue globes. blue globes are still just halogen with a tint to make them look blue, hids are xenon globes. they work under different principles.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/citye...ina/HIDs/A.jpg
normal globe on the left and xenon on the right

MrShadow 24-02-2005 10:22 AM

If I wasn't planning on selling the 'Stina (or if I'd have known how easy it was), I'd have dons this, especially for highway driving at night.
Isn't it illegal though to install HID on cars that don't come with it from the factory? I remeber reading about it in a Silicone Chip mag. It was either HID or another technology...

Nate 24-02-2005 10:45 AM

yeah ... but if you make the install look professional hows the cops gonna know

anyway looks really good ... and from being in twiggys car i know what a difference they make

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityEnd
so that it doesn't irritate other drivers.

RAOFLMAO ... is that possible

twilightprotege 24-02-2005 10:52 AM

HID's rock. simple as that

platypus 24-02-2005 10:56 AM

especially on the ridgeway... what was the count??

Nate 24-02-2005 10:57 AM

7 i think

platypus 24-02-2005 11:02 AM

was that all?

for the uninformed, we went across one of my local roads with a full twiggy mobile... this pointed the headlights up a little bit, coz we are all fat, so people kept flashing us - so then of course we had to flash the high beams!!

Dogo 24-02-2005 11:16 AM

with HIDs , do you need to get one to match the original globe type ( eg H3 , H4 ) or is it one-size-fits-all.

the main reason being I'm wondering if I could keep them and put them into my next car.

Nate 24-02-2005 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahb11m
was that all?

for the uninformed, we went across one of my local roads with a full twiggy mobile... this pointed the headlights up a little bit, coz we are all fat, so people kept flashing us - so then of course we had to flash the high beams!!

remember the alarms in the car park :P

twilightprotege 24-02-2005 12:21 PM

yes you do need to get the same type bulb, otherwise the part of the bulb that lights up will be in a different position and your beam pattern will suck

CityEnd 24-02-2005 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrShadow
If I wasn't planning on selling the 'Stina (or if I'd have known how easy it was), I'd have dons this, especially for highway driving at night.
Isn't it illegal though to install HID on cars that don't come with it from the factory? I remeber reading about it in a Silicone Chip mag. It was either HID or another technology...

I think in europe they r illegal if they don't have a self leveling unit thing, but in aus there is no law saying they r illegal, i have not heard of anyone get done for them either

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogo
with HIDs , do you need to get one to match the original globe type ( eg H3 , H4 ) or is it one-size-fits-all.

the main reason being I'm wondering if I could keep them and put them into my next car.

globes need to match the orginal size, so you can't bring them over to your next car, however you can still transfer the ballast, which is the most expensive part, and get globes to fit your new car

Rupewrecht 24-02-2005 12:32 PM

damn i read the title as HUD, not HID :o

very nice Chris, good install. :D

tkhov 27-03-2005 07:52 PM

Hi I saw some of the products on ebay
which one is recommended and also are they for high beam as well as driving?
do you have to get the H3 size?

platypus 28-03-2005 01:52 AM

chris, they require a self leveller here too...

but as long as they are adjusted properly, all should be good... to be extra safe you'd be best off working out where the old cut offs were first hand, and change the globes with out moving the car or of course measuring properly, light is meant to be at the same height from 9 metres or feet??? i can't remember which one...

might be an idea to adjust them with a weight in the back too... get a big buffioon mate to sit on/in the boot to alter the weight of the car

CityEnd 30-03-2005 03:13 AM

Thay, you will need to get the H3, and that will only be driving light.

h4 are both hi and lo beams

james, i think I'll need to look into that more...

yeah the hight of the light should be the same or lower at any distance away, i just tweaked it after every time i went for a drive until i was happy, making sure the light never shone onto the rear window of the car infront of me.

platypus 30-03-2005 09:31 AM

mmmm H4....

my light comes just to the top of the number plates in front of me...


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