I agree with both parties on this, as I drive my boyfriends 4wd at times, and i own a sp20 I can see the good and bad in both. Yes I hate not being able to see around 4wds sometimes but I also curse vans for that reason too, and nobody is bagging them out on here? On the other hand, being in a 4wd is just as good too, as it feels safer to me and I love having a change sometimes! Here in tassie though, driving a 4wd in the city is not as bad as say sydney or melbourne, because our city obviously has less people therefore less traffic!