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Old 11-12-2009, 12:20 PM   #1
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AFR gauge sensor

AFR gauge install

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hey has anyone ever installed one of these before????

and is it tru that u need to run a sepperate sensor???
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:41 PM   #2
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You can try hijacking the wiring from one of the stock sensors [take the one near the main cat, not the pre-cat], but you might change the resistored length of the signal wire. You will know if you have, as the numbers will be spaz, and you car may not run right.

You're gonna get bad oscilation with a narrowband gauge...
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:45 PM   #3
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well i have a wide band gauge. (i think as it cost a bomb) and i've hijacked it in. and i'm getting bouce from12.2 to 17.1 lol freackin car is running wierd :P so is it worth me gettin one installed on the old manifold or just wait till i get a new ecu (heard they don't need the sensors to run the car)
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:58 PM   #4
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You're gonna get spaz results putting a wideband gauge on a narroband sensor [stock]. Find out if it's wideband or not, and if it is, you will need to buy a Bosch wideband sensor and bung that in somewhere. As I said earlier, your gauge may interfere with the sensor and make the car run whacky. Dissconnect it for now, until you get sort the other stuff out.

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Old 11-12-2009, 02:26 PM   #5
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Bosch wideband sensor shouldn't be too much. i bought an Innovate Motorsports LC-1 for my falcon back in the day and apart from all their cool componentry, that system functioned off a Bosch sensor that cost about US$80.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...cat=271&page=1

here is the link to the sensor from their web store. but you could look up the part number [LSU4.2] here in australia.
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:13 PM   #6
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You're gonna get spaz results putting a wideband gauge on a narroband sensor [stock]. Find out if it's wideband or not, and if it is, you will need to buy a Bosch wideband sensor and bung that in somewhere. As I said earlier, your gauge may interfere with the sensor and make the car run whacky. Dissconnect it for now, until you get sort the other stuff out.

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hmm ok. can u put a wideband sensor in place of the stock one or is that like just shooting ur self in the foot???

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Bosch wideband sensor shouldn't be too much. i bought an Innovate Motorsports LC-1 for my falcon back in the day and apart from all their cool componentry, that system functioned off a Bosch sensor that cost about US$80.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...cat=271&page=1

here is the link to the sensor from their web store. but you could look up the part number [LSU4.2] here in australia.
you mean this one

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Old 11-12-2009, 03:21 PM   #7
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hmm ok. can u put a wideband sensor in place of the stock one or is that like just shooting ur self in the foot???
You know the answer to that one already.
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:48 PM   #8
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yeh that looks like it. just ignore the part about the connector. if you're gauge can take a 5-wire sensor, it will run the bosch.
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:02 PM   #9
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it take up to a single wire.

this is it

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Old 11-12-2009, 05:08 PM   #10
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"•From 12.2 lean to 17.2 rich" WTF???
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:14 PM   #11
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ya lol u see it on sunday. but i'll have to run some tests.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:47 PM   #12
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Dude, they have the scale back-to-front!!!
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:00 PM   #13
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yeh that's all backwards. plus once it's past 14 that's too lean already, and 17 parts of air to 1 part fuel is just downright dangerous.
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:13 PM   #14
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Actually Derb, the stock BJ does go into the 17s on part throttle/cruise/over-run, and happily does it. But will also drop down to the 10s and 11s under load, which this gauge won't even show. Then there is the whole backwards thing, assuming that's not a misprint...?

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Old 12-12-2009, 06:28 PM   #15
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ya that the way it looks and runs. just got back from mt tambo and was on the hi way and getting 14-16 (bouncing between the two.) i think its right. and when i'm off the throttle it goes past 17.
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