MAZDA EUNOS 30X S or MAZDA 323 ASTINA

miah87 · 18-02-2010, 12:27 AM

Hi I need advice from you guys as I don't know anything bout MAZDA...

Rupewrecht · 18-02-2010, 09:40 AM

Welcome to AGT

What kind of Astina? Or what year?

If it's the Eunos 30X vs the 89-93 BG Astina (popup headlight one), then they're reasonably similar - they share a lot of the mechanicals. The 30X gets a sweet little 1.8 V6, the BG a 1.8 4cyl engine. The BG is probably more practical due to the 4 doors

miah87 · 18-02-2010, 09:48 AM

Vehicle 1995 MAZDA 323 BA Series 1 ASTINA
Kilometres 211,000
Transmission 5 speed Manual
Body 5 door 5 seat HATCHBACK
Drive type Front
Reg Plate RFH116
Engine 6 cylinder Unleaded Multi-point injected 2.0L (1995cc) V6

AND

Vehicle 1996 MAZDA EUNOS 30X S
Kilometres 200,000
Transmission 5 speed Manual
Body 2 door 2 seat COUPE
Drive type Front
Engine 6 cylinder Unleaded Multi-point injected 1.8L (1844cc) --> not sure if this is V6

Which is better?

Rupewrecht · 18-02-2010, 10:22 AM

Ah ok

Well, the BA is a bit more modern than the 30X, but they're still fairly similar. The BA was designed a little after the 30X and the interior is a nicer place to be (but that's my personal preference).

Plus, the BA gets a slightly bigger engine, plus a couple of extra doors. And a lower opening hatch at the rear, which makes it easier to put things into it.

Both have a reasonable amount of aftermarket support. The BA has more available here, but the 30X was fairly popular in the USA (where it was sold as a Mazda MX-3) so aftermarket parts are obtainable from there.

As to which one's better...well that's really personal preference.

As long as they've both had a 200000 kms major service (timing belt etc) and have some sort of service history, then either should be a good buy.

miah87 · 18-02-2010, 11:07 AM

Ah I see, Might as well get a 1999 Lancer GLi coupe ? xD

Rupewrecht · 18-02-2010, 11:13 AM

LOL no, not quite what i was saying.

Both the 30X and BA are a more sporty car and ride, and handle better as standard. Fit and finish and the interior quality is much butter than a Lancer

An ex-gf had a Mirage, and that wasn't up to same sort of quality as a BA. the Mirage felt quite flimsy in comparison, i found

RedLineResident · 18-02-2010, 11:27 AM

Having driven both and owned 2 V6 BA's I think the Astina is a far superior package.
Better to drive, more comfortable, handles brilliantly and very reliable.

The lancer does not compare! Honestly, the feel of the astina when you drive it is very good.

miah87 · 18-02-2010, 11:53 AM

wow reading what u guys have said, making me want to call the seller and pay cash right away. BUT gotta wait till my car is sold T_T ARGHHHHH god give me money...

RedLineResident · 18-02-2010, 11:56 AM

Once you take it for a test drive, then try and drive something of equal value you will see that it is good bang for your buck.
It is a really nice chassis to work with... Very nicely balanced and with minor mods it will be a very nice ride.

Rupewrecht · 18-02-2010, 12:06 PM

I suppose it comes down to the V6 Astina being an almost $40k car when new, and Lancers being around the 20-25k mark. There's an extra $10k of quality and refinement.

miah87 · 18-02-2010, 08:17 PM

Guys, What is the name of the 1995 astina BA series 1 engine? Is it a DOHC?

Rupewrecht · 18-02-2010, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miah87

Guys, What is the name of the 1995 astina BA series 1 engine? Is it a DOHC?

The 2.0 V6 is a 'KF', the 1.8 4cyl is a 'BP'

Both are found in the 95 BA Series 1.

miah87 · 18-02-2010, 09:17 PM

Will post photos of the car once I got it. Probably this weekend... HOHOHO

miah87 · 19-02-2010, 12:05 AM

Guys Im curious about MAZDA 626 Astina. Is it the same as MAZDA 323 ASTINA? both are 1995.

phildough · 19-02-2010, 12:22 AM

No they are completley different cars.
The 626 is a larger car. And IMO nowhere as nice as the 323's
Id suggest you have a look on www.redbook.com.au
They have pics of cars and quite detailed information about every model available.

miah87 · 19-02-2010, 12:33 AM

Thanks for the website.

miah87 · 19-02-2010, 12:37 AM

I've done some research about MAZDA auto transmission. It seems that auto transmission are not worth buying isnt it? Which will you guys prefer?

so fresh · 19-02-2010, 12:59 AM

Manual's! :d

phildough · 19-02-2010, 01:59 AM

Manual any day of the week.

Rupewrecht · 19-02-2010, 10:11 AM

The Autos aren't bad, but they're not as good to drive as the manuals, certainly.

18-02-2010, 12:27 AM	#1
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	MAZDA EUNOS 30X S or MAZDA 323 ASTINA Hi I need advice from you guys as I don't know anything bout MAZDA...

18-02-2010, 09:40 AM	#2
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Welcome to AGT What kind of Astina? Or what year? If it's the Eunos 30X vs the 89-93 BG Astina (popup headlight one), then they're reasonably similar - they share a lot of the mechanicals. The 30X gets a sweet little 1.8 V6, the BG a 1.8 4cyl engine. The BG is probably more practical due to the 4 doors __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

18-02-2010, 10:22 AM	#4
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Ah ok Well, the BA is a bit more modern than the 30X, but they're still fairly similar. The BA was designed a little after the 30X and the interior is a nicer place to be (but that's my personal preference). Plus, the BA gets a slightly bigger engine, plus a couple of extra doors. And a lower opening hatch at the rear, which makes it easier to put things into it. Both have a reasonable amount of aftermarket support. The BA has more available here, but the 30X was fairly popular in the USA (where it was sold as a Mazda MX-3) so aftermarket parts are obtainable from there. As to which one's better...well that's really personal preference. As long as they've both had a 200000 kms major service (timing belt etc) and have some sort of service history, then either should be a good buy. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

18-02-2010, 11:13 AM	#6
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	LOL no, not quite what i was saying. Both the 30X and BA are a more sporty car and ride, and handle better as standard. Fit and finish and the interior quality is much butter than a Lancer An ex-gf had a Mirage, and that wasn't up to same sort of quality as a BA. the Mirage felt quite flimsy in comparison, i found __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

18-02-2010, 11:27 AM	#7
RedLineResident Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Car: BA V6 Hardtop 5 Speed & 97 Prelude VTIR Posts: 1,518 View Photos By: RedLineResident	Having driven both and owned 2 V6 BA's I think the Astina is a far superior package. Better to drive, more comfortable, handles brilliantly and very reliable. The lancer does not compare! Honestly, the feel of the astina when you drive it is very good. __________________ "Amateurs practice until they get it right." "Professionals practice until they can't get it wrong."

18-02-2010, 09:48 AM	#3
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	Vehicle 1995 MAZDA 323 BA Series 1 ASTINA Kilometres 211,000 Transmission 5 speed Manual Body 5 door 5 seat HATCHBACK Drive type Front Reg Plate RFH116 Engine 6 cylinder Unleaded Multi-point injected 2.0L (1995cc) V6 AND Vehicle 1996 MAZDA EUNOS 30X S Kilometres 200,000 Transmission 5 speed Manual Body 2 door 2 seat COUPE Drive type Front Engine 6 cylinder Unleaded Multi-point injected 1.8L (1844cc) --> not sure if this is V6 Which is better?

18-02-2010, 11:07 AM	#5
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	Ah I see, Might as well get a 1999 Lancer GLi coupe ? xD

18-02-2010, 11:53 AM	#8
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	wow reading what u guys have said, making me want to call the seller and pay cash right away. BUT gotta wait till my car is sold T_T ARGHHHHH god give me money...

18-02-2010, 11:56 AM	#9
RedLineResident Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Car: BA V6 Hardtop 5 Speed & 97 Prelude VTIR Posts: 1,518 View Photos By: RedLineResident	Once you take it for a test drive, then try and drive something of equal value you will see that it is good bang for your buck. It is a really nice chassis to work with... Very nicely balanced and with minor mods it will be a very nice ride. __________________ "Amateurs practice until they get it right." "Professionals practice until they can't get it wrong."

18-02-2010, 12:06 PM	#10
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	I suppose it comes down to the V6 Astina being an almost $40k car when new, and Lancers being around the 20-25k mark. There's an extra $10k of quality and refinement. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

18-02-2010, 08:17 PM	#11
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	Guys, What is the name of the 1995 astina BA series 1 engine? Is it a DOHC? Last edited by miah87; 18-02-2010 at 08:20 PM.

18-02-2010, 09:17 PM	#13
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	Will post photos of the car once I got it. Probably this weekend... HOHOHO

19-02-2010, 12:05 AM	#14
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	Guys Im curious about MAZDA 626 Astina. Is it the same as MAZDA 323 ASTINA? both are 1995.

19-02-2010, 12:22 AM	#15
phildough Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brisneyland, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Frankenstina Posts: 2,868 View Photos By: phildough	No they are completley different cars. The 626 is a larger car. And IMO nowhere as nice as the 323's Id suggest you have a look on www.redbook.com.au They have pics of cars and quite detailed information about every model available.

19-02-2010, 12:33 AM	#16
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	Thanks for the website.

19-02-2010, 12:37 AM	#17
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	I've done some research about MAZDA auto transmission. It seems that auto transmission are not worth buying isnt it? Which will you guys prefer?

19-02-2010, 12:59 AM	#18
so fresh Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: tullamarine,melbourne Car: 92 astina 323 bg & 01 SP20 Posts: 660 View Photos By: so fresh	Manual's! :d __________________ oh you hit my spot!

19-02-2010, 01:59 AM	#19
phildough Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brisneyland, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Frankenstina Posts: 2,868 View Photos By: phildough	Manual any day of the week.

19-02-2010, 10:11 AM	#20
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	The Autos aren't bad, but they're not as good to drive as the manuals, certainly. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1