Manual Conversion, is it worth it? - Page 2

Ian · 16-02-2006, 05:12 PM

I dunno if a BPT will fit it, but for 2k you can get a GTX Manual frontcut, with all the goods needed to be a manual, sans gearbox, which will be around 400 bucks.

I dont know how thats gona go fiting into your cars. The beauty of BG's is that there cut and bolt with the Familiars, for the most part.

Nate · 16-02-2006, 05:23 PM

if you wanted a BPT BA you start wit hthe 4 pot ... much easier

Rupewrecht · 16-02-2006, 05:31 PM

Yeah, the BPT it a bolt in the BA 1.8 apart from wiring

but to go BPT from V6 would be a nightmare

What skippy says is pretty sensible.

It'd probably be more cost-effective to just drop in a 2.5V6 with manual in one go, and you'd make doing the conversion more worthwhile then.

PhatAstina · 17-02-2006, 12:39 AM

the 2.5ltre with manual sounds like the way to go, but which car does the 2.5 litre come from?

CRA23 · 17-02-2006, 12:54 AM

ide go with the japanese mx6, but u must make sure its the mx6 because it has 200hp(147kw) at the fly which is a huge gain in power over our 104 and then u will also have a manual which generally is 1-2 seconds quicker 0-100

the engine is called a KL-ZE

boostedbatman · 17-02-2006, 04:20 AM

I call mine George

CHiMPY · 17-02-2006, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostedbatman

I call mine George

Is yours even classified an engine yet?

CRA23 · 17-02-2006, 11:08 AM

i would call petes(and my engine) lots of piles of metal stilling under the house :P

papatonga · 17-02-2006, 10:29 PM

well im going to go to visit a workshop and see what they say.

they have already done a mate's astina in the past and from what i was told, there were no problems with it.

i'll keep u's informed

papatonga · 18-02-2006, 06:55 PM

well
spoke to some guys today about a manual conversion.

they said it is very possible and would not be too big a job.

i will have further discussions as i progress further along this path

PhatAstina · 18-02-2006, 08:31 PM

sounds good

boostedbatman · 19-02-2006, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRA23

i would call petes(and my engine) lots of piles of metal stilling under the house :P

Organised Chaos at its best
Man I will post pics soon of the Guttered car as well, pre body strengthening and fitment of the animal cage
Now thats starting to look like a pile of metal
I cant get over how much room the complete interior (seats plastic trims, stereo, carpets, complete dash, belts etc ) can actually take up
Next Friday Night Games is at my house scaling the mound of parts
So far the turret hasn't had the Batman Death Touch lol

Jenny Craig Bat............................................... ..........................statement for the masses

project.r.racing · 19-02-2006, 07:10 AM

i bet george weighs 250kg lighter also after his interior makeover. maybe you could do a tv showfor it - get some money back that you've spent on it

"When fat cars get skinny!"

Ryan

Ian · 19-02-2006, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostedbatman

Organised Chaos at its best
Man I will post pics soon of the Guttered car as well, pre body strengthening and fitment of the animal cage
Now thats starting to look like a pile of metal
I cant get over how much room the complete interior (seats plastic trims, stereo, carpets, complete dash, belts etc ) can actually take up
Next Friday Night Games is at my house scaling the mound of parts
So far the turret hasn't had the Batman Death Touch lol

Jenny Craig Bat............................................... ..........................statement for the masses

Holly engine parts batman!

AstinaBoiV6 · 19-02-2006, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRA23

ide go with the japanese mx6, but u must make sure its the mx6 because it has 200hp(147kw) at the fly which is a huge gain in power over our 104 and then u will also have a manual which generally is 1-2 seconds quicker 0-100

the engine is called a KL-ZE

I thought we had 105kw... is that at the fly or wheels... how much KW do BA hardtop v6's have at the wheels??

project.r.racing · 19-02-2006, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AstinaBoiV6

I thought we had 105kw... is that at the fly or wheels... how much KW do BA hardtop v6's have at the wheels??

new - aboutish 80 in manual, auto 75ish - stock engines/intakes/exhausts

AstinaBoiV6 · 19-02-2006, 08:01 PM

wow that is alot of power lost through the fly to the wheels..... any way of geting a better power send without upgrading engine.. like a new flywheel .. suff like that..

chicaboo · 19-02-2006, 08:03 PM

Not really, you just use lighter weight materials like forged pistons/crank, lightweight flywheel and pulleys, crankscraper, etc...

AstinaBoiV6 · 19-02-2006, 08:05 PM

true... soo wat was the number to convert Kw to HP... was it u * it by 1.31 or sumfin???

project.r.racing · 19-02-2006, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AstinaBoiV6

true... soo wat was the number to convert Kw to HP... was it u * it by 1.31 or sumfin???

who cares about HP, thats for old people and their gas sucking V8s

16-02-2006, 05:12 PM	#21
Ian Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: neither here nor there Car: 1990 R32 GTR Posts: 1,289 View Photos By: Ian	I dunno if a BPT will fit it, but for 2k you can get a GTX Manual frontcut, with all the goods needed to be a manual, sans gearbox, which will be around 400 bucks. I dont know how thats gona go fiting into your cars. The beauty of BG's is that there cut and bolt with the Familiars, for the most part. __________________ Mah Ride! details

16-02-2006, 05:23 PM	#22
Nate Pandaspeed Racing Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Brisney Land Car: BG SP Posts: 4,170 View Photos By: Nate	if you wanted a BPT BA you start wit hthe 4 pot ... much easier __________________ Life would be straight without twisties STOCK AS A ROCKET! •motor sport is dangerous and that accidents causing harm can and do happen and may happen to me. I accept the conditions of, and acknowledge the risks arising from, attending or participating in the event and being provided with the event services by CAMS and the Associated Entities I THINK I AM N2!

16-02-2006, 05:31 PM	#23
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Yeah, the BPT it a bolt in the BA 1.8 apart from wiring but to go BPT from V6 would be a nightmare What skippy says is pretty sensible. It'd probably be more cost-effective to just drop in a 2.5V6 with manual in one go, and you'd make doing the conversion more worthwhile then. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

17-02-2006, 12:39 AM	#24
PhatAstina Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Perth, Australia Car: subaru Posts: 46 View Photos By: PhatAstina	the 2.5ltre with manual sounds like the way to go, but which car does the 2.5 litre come from? __________________ Born 2 be loud the user formerly known as GrEeN mAcHiNe

17-02-2006, 12:54 AM	#25
CRA23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Gold Coast, QLD Car: a helichopter Posts: 801 View Photos By: CRA23	ide go with the japanese mx6, but u must make sure its the mx6 because it has 200hp(147kw) at the fly which is a huge gain in power over our 104 and then u will also have a manual which generally is 1-2 seconds quicker 0-100 the engine is called a KL-ZE __________________ Corners are just that much more fun with coilovers......

17-02-2006, 04:20 AM	#26
boostedbatman Manpink Crusader Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stafford, Brisbane Car: 1990 GD mx6 F2T, and soon I might drive the batmoobile once again Posts: 2,280 View Photos By: boostedbatman	I call mine George __________________ The Batmobile as she used to be and now she hangs from a chain in the garage

17-02-2006, 11:08 AM	#28
CRA23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Gold Coast, QLD Car: a helichopter Posts: 801 View Photos By: CRA23	i would call petes(and my engine) lots of piles of metal stilling under the house :P __________________ Corners are just that much more fun with coilovers......

17-02-2006, 10:29 PM	#29
papatonga AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sydney Car: 1997 Mazda BA Astina Posts: 331 View Photos By: papatonga	well im going to go to visit a workshop and see what they say. they have already done a mate's astina in the past and from what i was told, there were no problems with it. i'll keep u's informed __________________

18-02-2006, 06:55 PM	#30
papatonga AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sydney Car: 1997 Mazda BA Astina Posts: 331 View Photos By: papatonga	well spoke to some guys today about a manual conversion. they said it is very possible and would not be too big a job. i will have further discussions as i progress further along this path __________________

18-02-2006, 08:31 PM	#31
PhatAstina Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Perth, Australia Car: subaru Posts: 46 View Photos By: PhatAstina	sounds good __________________ Born 2 be loud the user formerly known as GrEeN mAcHiNe

19-02-2006, 07:10 AM	#33
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	i bet george weighs 250kg lighter also after his interior makeover. maybe you could do a tv showfor it - get some money back that you've spent on it "When fat cars get skinny!" Ryan

19-02-2006, 08:01 PM	#37
AstinaBoiV6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Springwood MASSIVE Represent Car: ba Posts: 1,426 View Photos By: AstinaBoiV6	wow that is alot of power lost through the fly to the wheels..... any way of geting a better power send without upgrading engine.. like a new flywheel .. suff like that..

19-02-2006, 08:03 PM	#38
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	Not really, you just use lighter weight materials like forged pistons/crank, lightweight flywheel and pulleys, crankscraper, etc...

19-02-2006, 08:05 PM	#39
AstinaBoiV6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Springwood MASSIVE Represent Car: ba Posts: 1,426 View Photos By: AstinaBoiV6	true... soo wat was the number to convert Kw to HP... was it u * it by 1.31 or sumfin???

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Manual Conversion Astina (BG) 1991	SO PHAT	Performance & General Maintenance	5	30-01-2007 05:10 PM
Manual to Auto Gearbox Conversion	Lek	Performance & General Maintenance	18	11-09-2006 04:06 AM
Auto to Manual Conversion	macca	Performance & General Maintenance	6	19-08-2006 12:00 AM
Manual Conversion	MMM323	Performance & General Maintenance	8	12-12-2005 08:12 PM
auto to manual conversion	mattyd	Performance & General Maintenance	6	03-02-2005 06:57 PM