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17-06-2004, 06:09 PM | #41 |
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honestly you guys i dont think there was anything wrong with the dyno there was a couple off cars there that run up the same figures in 2 different states an within a week off dynoing
twilight as for my car it is only standard with a big ass exhauts that i recon loses me a little power , but as stated earlier you can do all the mods you want spend thousands off dollars but if you dont change the brains behind it [ecu] u mite as well just give me the money because nothings going to work for you with a standard ecu
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17-06-2004, 06:18 PM | #42 |
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The idea behind the day was to see various cars and their output on the one dyno on the one day so that any arguements could be settled. The power figures were a secondary bonus.
I can claim that my car was down on power due to this and that but in the end that is poor planing on my part. So 49.3kw atw was what I ran so 49.3kw atw is all I can claim and the ABH11M slowtege is 2% more powerfull. I will need to try harder and prepare better for next time.
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17-06-2004, 07:09 PM | #43 |
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my car is booked in for a dyno at the dyno place i went to previously - that'll give me a better comparison between now and before
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17-06-2004, 10:57 PM | #44 |
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cosmo look out, my hands are currently covered in petrol from replacing the fuel filter... was well over due, but was too expensive!! (BJ owners prepare to freak out when you pay $94.50 for a filter!!)
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18-06-2004, 07:12 AM | #45 |
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18-06-2004, 11:03 PM | #46 |
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Kitty has a red pod, it sucks hard...
But minimal increase on the Dyno Lantis: You are sweet to go back to the Dyno when your new filter is in. I LOVE THE WAY THE CAR SOUNDS NOW *Kitty growls........* :twisted: |
18-06-2004, 11:47 PM | #47 | |
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ok ppl - back from the dyno up here. got 123.7whp - that's 92.3kw atw. only slightly more than the 80kw atw at canberra...wtf???? i'll say it again, that dyno in canberra was off.
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19-06-2004, 09:56 PM | #50 |
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19-06-2004, 11:01 PM | #51 | |
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Either way it doesnt matter, mods should be benchmarked using the same dyno everytime.
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19-06-2004, 11:14 PM | #53 |
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that's why i went back to the same dyno i went to previously...so i can compair apples to apples.
just is screwy that almost all other dyno's with a stock sp20 put out 73ish kw at the wheels..but this one didnt come close. i'm not saying the canberra dyno was inaccurate - hell maybe the one in redcliffe that i go to is off....but when almost every single power run i've seen with a stock sp20 puts out 73kw at the wheels + or - 2kw.......... :roll: :roll: :roll: |
20-06-2004, 08:54 AM | #54 |
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its funny how guys pull bigger figures when the others aren't around ,now going by wat ur saying thats 12.5 atw's better so every-one elses should have pulled that or near enough my 98 atf =83.5 atw dont think so i think ur dyno up there needs some serious attention
now guys seem to think u have to prove a point from that day well ur wrong we just did it for fun an get a rough idea what the different vehicles do it was fun not a comp personnelly if i had 70 atw or i had 300 atw im still only going to do 120k's up the freeway as stated there was a couple off cars that were from outta town that pulled the same figures [2 different dynos same figures ] u can not back that with ur 1 off no proof because no one else run that dyno [ its out]
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20-06-2004, 12:39 PM | #55 |
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i totally agree that the idea of the day was to compair each other's cars with one another and for just plain fun.
but still the issue arises....with most fwd cars, kw at the engine is apx the same figure as hp at the wheels...have a look at the www.msprotege.com forums. all stock or very slightly modified sp20's are putting out between 70-80kw at the wheels anyway, all that matters to me is i can now compair all of my runs and mods accurately. that's all i ever wanted to do |
20-06-2004, 01:24 PM | #56 |
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You know what - get yourself on a real dyno that can measure drivetrain loss accurately, then run the numbers and let us know.
There's one of these in Canberra but it's about $80 a run. I'm going to do it one day just out of curiousity. Then again if I could add 12.3kw to my 187...... Personalyl I think there's no such this as fair dyno to dyno comparison. In theory "Shootout mode" on a dyno demonics unit is about as level as it gets - but they read high comapred to non shootout my 187 in Shoot6 would be about 200..... Run it in Shoot4 or Shoot8 and the number gets even more rubber as the ramp rates etc are all different. A.
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20-06-2004, 09:53 PM | #57 |
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can i make one small note... now i'm not sure of the exact numbers here.....
but what is canberras elevation as compared to that of your dyno in brisbane? the whoole atmospheric pressure would of played a great deal on this... like we are talking up to 15% power losses.... sorry to sit on information
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20-06-2004, 10:47 PM | #58 |
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air temp dont make that bigger diff or they wouldnt run drags in other states
what r u trying to say here put ur air filter in the fridge or oven an get 15% ,i wish
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20-06-2004, 11:06 PM | #60 |
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Air temp does make a difference as the colder air is the bigger the bang in the cylinder.
I think James was reffering to density as opposed to air temps anyway. Air density also has a similar affect to air temp. Was your run in qld done in shootout mode by chance?
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