Random Question thread.. - Page 45

marcs_sp20 · 20-10-2009, 09:26 AM

i do realise that black & blue doesnt work, but thats not the point... Its called stepping outside the boundaries..

Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed ryan?

project.r.racing · 20-10-2009, 09:47 AM

whats the point then? please explain. (insert pauline hanson voice here.)

this has been done before, hardly stepping outside any boundaries...

no getting outside of the wrong side of the bed, i'm nearly 30, i'm just turning into a grumpy old man.

on a side note though about the subject, if i owned a white ba hatch, i'd love to paint the bonnet, roof and hatch black. black be useless on my grey/blue car.

marcs_sp20 · 20-10-2009, 10:25 AM

to do something i.ve wanted to for a couple years.. Paint on the roof amd bonnet are starting to fade, so this in turn require attention, so why not go a little jdm and be a little left field as well...

And i meant step out of my own boundaries

02-KQ-LASR · 20-10-2009, 10:37 AM

what about a c/f bonnet and a black roof? that would be hot!!

DavoAust · 20-10-2009, 01:11 PM

i'd say your car is too dark to really make it work. it won't stand out much.

i've been contemplating the black bonnet/root. that or GT stripes

pat323 · 20-10-2009, 06:52 PM

hey everyone.
i have a quick question. what can i do to cut down understeer on my ba hatch. i have the following mods- 22mm rear sway bar, front and rear strut braces and bc adjustable coilovers?
i did a track day today and understeer was slowing me down heaps.

thanks
pat

marcs_sp20 · 20-10-2009, 07:38 PM

what tyres you running?

Cosmo Dude · 20-10-2009, 07:52 PM

A wee bit of negative camber may help as will some caster adjustments.

project.r.racing · 20-10-2009, 08:03 PM

incease front tyre pressure
decrease rear tyre pressure
increase front tyre width
decrease rear tyre width
decrease front tyre aspect ratio
increase rear tyre aspect ratio
wider front rim
narrower rear rim
more negative front camber
more positive rear camber
more positive front caster
more toe out, front + rear
softer front sway bar
stiffer rear sway bar
softer front springs
stiffer rear springs
softer front shocks
stiffer rear shocks
more front downforce
less rear downforce
more weight in the rear

pat323 · 20-10-2009, 08:11 PM

thanks guys just the sort of thing i was looking for. i am running Adrenalin Potenza RE001 195/55/15 tyres.

project.r.racing · 20-10-2009, 08:17 PM

so run the 195/55R15s (15x6.5) on the rears, put 205/50R15 (15x7.0) on the fronts.
run a softer setting on your front damper/coilovers
and about 1.5d front camber and about 0.5 rear camber.

as a start. the rest will be testing for yourself, as every car is different.

pat323 · 20-10-2009, 08:21 PM

thats pretty much what camber i am running. but yeah the tyres sound like a good idea as mine got pretty chewed up today. and the suspension was set slightly stiffer in the rear

RustyKaos · 20-10-2009, 08:25 PM

Maybe an LSD will help as well, especially if accelerating through the corners??

project.r.racing · 20-10-2009, 08:29 PM

i was gonna suggest that. but a f series lsd pops up once every 18 months or so on yahoo jp. so i didn't.

and yes it does make a world of difference in corner out speeds. but kills outer cv joints on the little f series shafts.

maztech · 20-10-2009, 08:40 PM

I would love to have a LSD in my car , Ryan is there any other option to custom fit one that you know off? How you doin with your CV's.

project.r.racing · 20-10-2009, 08:51 PM

NA6/BG8Z rear diffs may be the same. i'd need to see both next to eachother to confirm.

i knew a dude that used to make the "phanton style" ones living in carboolture. but haven't heard from him in years.

i'm replacing my cv joint tomorrow, $39 for a new one.

Cosmo Dude · 20-10-2009, 08:52 PM

There is also the idea of technique.

maztech · 20-10-2009, 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=project.r.racing;214668]NA6/BG8Z rear diffs may be the same. i'd need to see both next to eachother to confirm.

Thats what i was thinking of NA6 diff to see if that could fit just need both to play around with.

Its called getting power to the ground Cosmo

project.r.racing · 20-10-2009, 09:02 PM

cosmo is correct. driving style/technique plays a big part in it all. especially on a fast fwd car, as the mods get crazier for more speed. the rear end gets loosser, and the driver has to be able to drive it.

also simple pedal control (ie driving technique) to limit wheelspin and understeer. and cornering techniques and vechicle weight control also.

maztech · 20-10-2009, 09:05 PM

Why do you use a LSD then Ryan?

20-10-2009, 09:26 AM	#881
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	i do realise that black & blue doesnt work, but thats not the point... Its called stepping outside the boundaries.. Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed ryan? __________________

20-10-2009, 10:25 AM	#883
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	to do something i.ve wanted to for a couple years.. Paint on the roof amd bonnet are starting to fade, so this in turn require attention, so why not go a little jdm and be a little left field as well... And i meant step out of my own boundaries __________________

20-10-2009, 10:37 AM	#884
02-KQ-LASR SHO~247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SA Car: laser kq 2002 Posts: 2,024 View Photos By: 02-KQ-LASR	what about a c/f bonnet and a black roof? that would be hot!! __________________ lots of bj/kn/kq laser parts for sale!! custom boot install(fibreglass boxes),mazda 3 handbrake rachet,power window motors x 2,power window switches, guage rings its all gotta go!!! pm me any offers!!

20-10-2009, 01:11 PM	#885
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	i'd say your car is too dark to really make it work. it won't stand out much. i've been contemplating the black bonnet/root. that or GT stripes __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

20-10-2009, 07:38 PM	#887
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	what tyres you running? __________________

20-10-2009, 09:47 AM	#882
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	whats the point then? please explain. (insert pauline hanson voice here.) this has been done before, hardly stepping outside any boundaries... no getting outside of the wrong side of the bed, i'm nearly 30, i'm just turning into a grumpy old man. on a side note though about the subject, if i owned a white ba hatch, i'd love to paint the bonnet, roof and hatch black. black be useless on my grey/blue car.

20-10-2009, 06:52 PM	#886
pat323 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: sutherland Car: 323 astina 95 Posts: 76 View Photos By: pat323	hey everyone. i have a quick question. what can i do to cut down understeer on my ba hatch. i have the following mods- 22mm rear sway bar, front and rear strut braces and bc adjustable coilovers? i did a track day today and understeer was slowing me down heaps. thanks pat

20-10-2009, 07:52 PM	#888
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	A wee bit of negative camber may help as will some caster adjustments. __________________ My 'stina Hatch

20-10-2009, 08:03 PM	#889
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	incease front tyre pressure decrease rear tyre pressure increase front tyre width decrease rear tyre width decrease front tyre aspect ratio increase rear tyre aspect ratio wider front rim narrower rear rim more negative front camber more positive rear camber more positive front caster more toe out, front + rear softer front sway bar stiffer rear sway bar softer front springs stiffer rear springs softer front shocks stiffer rear shocks more front downforce less rear downforce more weight in the rear

20-10-2009, 08:11 PM	#890
pat323 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: sutherland Car: 323 astina 95 Posts: 76 View Photos By: pat323	thanks guys just the sort of thing i was looking for. i am running Adrenalin Potenza RE001 195/55/15 tyres.

20-10-2009, 08:17 PM	#891
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	so run the 195/55R15s (15x6.5) on the rears, put 205/50R15 (15x7.0) on the fronts. run a softer setting on your front damper/coilovers and about 1.5d front camber and about 0.5 rear camber. as a start. the rest will be testing for yourself, as every car is different. Last edited by project.r.racing; 20-10-2009 at 08:21 PM.

20-10-2009, 08:21 PM	#892
pat323 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: sutherland Car: 323 astina 95 Posts: 76 View Photos By: pat323	thats pretty much what camber i am running. but yeah the tyres sound like a good idea as mine got pretty chewed up today. and the suspension was set slightly stiffer in the rear

20-10-2009, 08:25 PM	#893
RustyKaos Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Side Brisbane Car: 1998 BA 323 Astina Hardtop Posts: 1,414 View Photos By: RustyKaos	Maybe an LSD will help as well, especially if accelerating through the corners?? __________________ Everytime an idiot dies, 20 more are born. Come challenge me. I dare ya.

20-10-2009, 08:29 PM	#894
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	i was gonna suggest that. but a f series lsd pops up once every 18 months or so on yahoo jp. so i didn't. and yes it does make a world of difference in corner out speeds. but kills outer cv joints on the little f series shafts.

20-10-2009, 08:40 PM	#895
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	I would love to have a LSD in my car , Ryan is there any other option to custom fit one that you know off? How you doin with your CV's.

20-10-2009, 08:51 PM	#896
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	NA6/BG8Z rear diffs may be the same. i'd need to see both next to eachother to confirm. i knew a dude that used to make the "phanton style" ones living in carboolture. but haven't heard from him in years. i'm replacing my cv joint tomorrow, $39 for a new one.

20-10-2009, 08:52 PM	#897
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	There is also the idea of technique. __________________ My 'stina Hatch

20-10-2009, 08:56 PM	#898
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	[QUOTE=project.r.racing;214668]NA6/BG8Z rear diffs may be the same. i'd need to see both next to eachother to confirm. Thats what i was thinking of NA6 diff to see if that could fit just need both to play around with. Its called getting power to the ground Cosmo

20-10-2009, 09:02 PM	#899
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	cosmo is correct. driving style/technique plays a big part in it all. especially on a fast fwd car, as the mods get crazier for more speed. the rear end gets loosser, and the driver has to be able to drive it. also simple pedal control (ie driving technique) to limit wheelspin and understeer. and cornering techniques and vechicle weight control also.

20-10-2009, 09:05 PM	#900
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	Why do you use a LSD then Ryan?