Skidpan Day - Sunday 22nd November 2009 - Page 5

project.r.racing · 08-07-2009, 06:02 PM

no i think i'll be chatting to the instructors this time and getting some more advanced training. prolly chat to them when i pay the balance of the pan hire fees.

Rix · 08-07-2009, 07:37 PM

when u went last time did they give u any theory?

chicaboo · 08-07-2009, 08:19 PM

Yeah,
1. Skyline GTRs come without turbos.
2. "What you see on TV isn't drifting".
3. To drift you need "locked shocks".
4. ZRE Corollas skidpan better than BMW Z4 Roadsters.
5. ZZE Corollas can't skidpan for $#!T.
6. You really can knock over every witch's hat if you try hard enough.
7. Witch's hats are really hard to get out from under a lowered car.

Gav.

project.r.racing · 08-07-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chicaboo

6. You really can knock over every witch's hat if you try hard enough.

Word! Fun times.

Rix · 08-07-2009, 08:57 PM

Lol pretty much what we learnt:P

did u get the road trauma stuff?
oo did u do the cone salem?:P

marcs_sp20 · 08-07-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chicaboo

7. Witch's hats are really hard to get out from under a lowered car.

Gav.

Oh my Gawd that was hilarious!!

70NYD · 08-07-2009, 09:06 PM

funniest "fact" was that he recond that the higher the PSI in tires the better the breaking responce...

karamello · 08-07-2009, 10:14 PM

saw a falcon run 92psi he said...what a douche

70NYD · 09-07-2009, 09:53 AM

well it might have had light truck tires hahaha... man i wanted to argue with him that day on so many points but i bit my tounge for everyone elses sake who wanted more time on the pad

chicaboo · 09-07-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 70NYD

well it might have had light truck tires hahaha... man i wanted to argue with him that day on so many points but i bit my tounge for everyone elses sake who wanted more time on the pad

Yeah, I was getting annoyed with that blonde guy (R33 driver?) that felt he needed to question every subjective fact our instructor was sprouting off.

Gav.

Rix · 09-07-2009, 11:31 AM

Lol he told us that aswell, and it also increases fuel economy lol, he was like when holden do their fuels per litre testing they get their tyres to 91 psi

and i'm just like and if they hit something like a nail can't u just imagine the bang that would come out of the tires.

did he tell u about the accidents he's had to deal with etc?

marcs_sp20 · 09-07-2009, 11:40 AM

yep, with one being the acco with all the teens in Toowoomba...

chicaboo · 09-07-2009, 11:44 AM

I thought he said the 91psi was on a Falcon GT that was there. Seriously, I tried doing a touge with my tyres at 40psi once, and it was like dribbling basket balls on every corner. Drop the pressures down to 36psi, and no worries, still a bit on the firm side though... Mind you, I think the 38psi Mitch was using was a good balance for a skidpan.

And yeah, we heard about the accidents too. One good thing about him though, he hates traffic cops.

marcs_sp20 · 09-07-2009, 11:55 AM

got your stories messed up gav, 91psi tyres were for the corolla'a, and the falcon gt story was about a bloke spinning out all the time & then his missus getting in & driving fine...

Rix · 09-07-2009, 11:57 AM

Oh and his daughter was hot:P

who doesn't hate cops:P

Lol did u do the cone salem?

Cause we took the school bus down it for the fun of it

teacher didn't hit any cones but i nearly fell out the window about 5 times

chicaboo · 09-07-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by marcs_sp20

got your stories messed up gav, 91psi tyres were for the corolla'a, and the falcon gt story was about a bloke spinning out all the time & then his missus getting in & driving fine...

You sure? I thought the Corollas just ran 44psi or something mild like that.

marcs_sp20 · 09-07-2009, 11:59 AM

nah man, they were running at around 75psi (I think he was just BS'ing as usual...), reason why the went flat soo fast!

Rix · 09-07-2009, 12:06 PM

Lol we popped two tyres on them in the space of 2 days, it was a 2 day course

we were using their corollas

and then they made us wash them

70NYD · 09-07-2009, 02:01 PM

lol higher pressure in tyres WILL give you better fuel consumption, der, but if your gonna run it at 90+ psi for standard tire you might as well run it on the rim cus you will get the same contact area haha. like on lets say 90 PSI you will have 2 times less road contact as you would with 45 PSI and so you will have 2 times less roling resistance so better economi but u will also have much much worse handling... i think he just over exagarates on everything..

MitchEG · 09-07-2009, 04:41 PM

Gav's got the story right, he was talking about some bro that turned up in a Falcon with 90psi which is wrong/bad.

Corollas tyres were at around 50psi which he said was optimum for handling/braking etc. as he figured it. Still too uncomfortable for the road though imo.

08-07-2009, 07:37 PM	#82
Rix Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunshine Coast Car: 1997 Mazda Astina Ba Posts: 1,205 View Photos By: Rix	when u went last time did they give u any theory? __________________

08-07-2009, 08:57 PM	#85
Rix Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunshine Coast Car: 1997 Mazda Astina Ba Posts: 1,205 View Photos By: Rix	Lol pretty much what we learnt:P did u get the road trauma stuff? oo did u do the cone salem?:P __________________

08-07-2009, 09:06 PM	#87
70NYD Veni, vidi, vici Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1996 BA Hatch & 2005 RX8 Posts: 4,911 View Photos By: 70NYD	funniest "fact" was that he recond that the higher the PSI in tires the better the breaking responce... __________________

08-07-2009, 10:14 PM	#88
karamello Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Car: Mazda 323 Astina BG Posts: 658 View Photos By: karamello	saw a falcon run 92psi he said...what a douche __________________ Readers Ride: http://www.astinagt.com/forums/vbpic...?do=view&g=556

09-07-2009, 09:53 AM	#89
70NYD Veni, vidi, vici Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1996 BA Hatch & 2005 RX8 Posts: 4,911 View Photos By: 70NYD	well it might have had light truck tires hahaha... man i wanted to argue with him that day on so many points but i bit my tounge for everyone elses sake who wanted more time on the pad __________________

08-07-2009, 06:02 PM	#81
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	no i think i'll be chatting to the instructors this time and getting some more advanced training. prolly chat to them when i pay the balance of the pan hire fees.

08-07-2009, 08:19 PM	#83
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	Yeah, 1. Skyline GTRs come without turbos. 2. "What you see on TV isn't drifting". 3. To drift you need "locked shocks". 4. ZRE Corollas skidpan better than BMW Z4 Roadsters. 5. ZZE Corollas can't skidpan for $#!T. 6. You really can knock over every witch's hat if you try hard enough. 7. Witch's hats are really hard to get out from under a lowered car. Gav.

09-07-2009, 11:31 AM	#91
Rix Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunshine Coast Car: 1997 Mazda Astina Ba Posts: 1,205 View Photos By: Rix	Lol he told us that aswell, and it also increases fuel economy lol, he was like when holden do their fuels per litre testing they get their tyres to 91 psi and i'm just like and if they hit something like a nail can't u just imagine the bang that would come out of the tires. did he tell u about the accidents he's had to deal with etc? __________________

09-07-2009, 11:40 AM	#92
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	yep, with one being the acco with all the teens in Toowoomba... __________________

09-07-2009, 11:44 AM	#93
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	I thought he said the 91psi was on a Falcon GT that was there. Seriously, I tried doing a touge with my tyres at 40psi once, and it was like dribbling basket balls on every corner. Drop the pressures down to 36psi, and no worries, still a bit on the firm side though... Mind you, I think the 38psi Mitch was using was a good balance for a skidpan. And yeah, we heard about the accidents too. One good thing about him though, he hates traffic cops.

09-07-2009, 11:55 AM	#94
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	got your stories messed up gav, 91psi tyres were for the corolla'a, and the falcon gt story was about a bloke spinning out all the time & then his missus getting in & driving fine... __________________

09-07-2009, 11:57 AM	#95
Rix Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunshine Coast Car: 1997 Mazda Astina Ba Posts: 1,205 View Photos By: Rix	Oh and his daughter was hot:P who doesn't hate cops:P Lol did u do the cone salem? Cause we took the school bus down it for the fun of it teacher didn't hit any cones but i nearly fell out the window about 5 times __________________

09-07-2009, 11:59 AM	#97
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	nah man, they were running at around 75psi (I think he was just BS'ing as usual...), reason why the went flat soo fast! __________________

09-07-2009, 12:06 PM	#98
Rix Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunshine Coast Car: 1997 Mazda Astina Ba Posts: 1,205 View Photos By: Rix	Lol we popped two tyres on them in the space of 2 days, it was a 2 day course we were using their corollas and then they made us wash them __________________

09-07-2009, 02:01 PM	#99
70NYD Veni, vidi, vici Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1996 BA Hatch & 2005 RX8 Posts: 4,911 View Photos By: 70NYD	lol higher pressure in tyres WILL give you better fuel consumption, der, but if your gonna run it at 90+ psi for standard tire you might as well run it on the rim cus you will get the same contact area haha. like on lets say 90 PSI you will have 2 times less road contact as you would with 45 PSI and so you will have 2 times less roling resistance so better economi but u will also have much much worse handling... i think he just over exagarates on everything.. __________________

09-07-2009, 04:41 PM	#100
MitchEG AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brisbane, South Car: Cibicu Posts: 324	Gav's got the story right, he was talking about some bro that turned up in a Falcon with 90psi which is wrong/bad. Corollas tyres were at around 50psi which he said was optimum for handling/braking etc. as he figured it. Still too uncomfortable for the road though imo.