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Old 12-11-2011, 06:45 PM   #61
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Currently i'm looking to get the following setup on monday from Bob Jane.

Maxxis MA-Z4S Victra 215/40R17 $169 x 4
RJR Quest 17x7 4x100 42 offset $199 x 4

anyone think of anything particularly wrong with that?
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:00 PM   #62
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Those tyres are pretty good. I think I paid $200 a corner. Those rims should for too, but there's cheaper places than Bob Jane...
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Old 12-11-2011, 11:47 PM   #63
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but there's cheaper places than Bob Jane...
Any suggestions?

Basically im looking for a cheap knock-off that is as close to an OZ Racing SUPERTURISMO GT (as far as i'm concerned the most beautiful thing that has ever been on the corners of any car)

Im in Perth WA and really dont wanna do anything online/shipped.
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Old 13-11-2011, 06:21 AM   #64
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I'm afraid online is where its at... Considering you're in Perth, which always seems expensive.
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Old 13-11-2011, 11:50 AM   #65
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does anyone know if a 97 can take a 17x7.5?

http://www.bobjane.com.au/wheelset-d...743a30792a8bbe
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Old 13-11-2011, 06:24 PM   #66
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does anyone know if a 97 can take a 17x7.5?

http://www.bobjane.com.au/wheelset-d...743a30792a8bbe
Yes 17x7.5 will fit but you really need to know the offset (how much the wheel pokes in or out) too much -ve offset and the inner will hit the suspension too little -ve offset and you'll foul the guard.
Lots of stuff on this here you just have to search.
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Old 15-11-2011, 09:17 PM   #67
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all done.

RJR Wolfrace 12 17x7 with 205/40 Maxxis rubbers

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Old 17-11-2011, 07:13 PM   #68
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Does anyone know if these mag wheels will fit my 2002 Protege BJ II

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/17-INCH-R...ht_1250wt_1165
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Old 17-11-2011, 07:38 PM   #69
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Does anyone know if these mag wheels will fit my 2002 Protege BJ II

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/17-INCH-R...ht_1250wt_1165
Any standard protege will be four stud, these wheels are five stud. If you have an Sp20 they will fit, someone correct me if I'm wrong!
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Old 30-01-2012, 03:45 PM   #70
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have no clue when it comes to all these numbers with wheels and tyres ahah

would 17x7.5 48+ with 205/40 tyres fit my sp20?
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Old 30-01-2012, 03:52 PM   #71
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wheels yes, tyres most likely will have lower than required load rating.
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Old 30-01-2012, 04:00 PM   #72
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tyres most likely will have lower than required load rating.
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Old 30-01-2012, 04:16 PM   #73
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on the tyre placard, in your door jab, it will state that any tyres fitted must be equal to or over a certain load rating. 83/84/85 etc.

BA is 84/615KG, not sure on BJ, but placard will tell you.

most 205/40R17 tyres are 83, small percentage is 84.

no the side of the tyres, the letters should be 205/40ZR17 83 or 205/40R17 83W

the Z and the W are speed ratings, nothing to worry about.

but the 83/84/85 need to be equal or higher than on the placard.
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Old 30-01-2012, 04:21 PM   #74
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there is an extra number on tyres and it is the load index.
From memory the minimum we can use is 85 from memory.
A lot of tyre shops do not know anything about the load index and incorrectly fit tyres to cars.
If you have an accident and your tyres are below the load index rating your claim can be dismissed as your car should not have been on the road as it was illegal.
My friend just got a set of tyres, I get home check them and tell him to take his car back as they are not legal.
He took it back and had to call me to bring down proof that they knew nothing.
I made him return the tyres and get a full refund and go elsewhere as the tyre shop kept telling me I knew nothing and was wrong.
They sold him tyres rated at 82 and his car is 84 minimum.
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Old 30-01-2012, 04:54 PM   #75
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ive got 83 rated ones on my car atm. yes they are illegal, but the difference between 83-84 was 15kg. so far so good I guess. they were $250 cheaper than an 84 rated set. another reason why I decided to buy 16" rims for my hatch, loads easier to get cheap rated tyres!
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Old 30-01-2012, 05:21 PM   #76
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ive got 83 rated ones on my car atm. yes they are illegal, but the difference between 83-84 was 15kg. so far so good I guess. they were $250 cheaper than an 84 rated set. another reason why I decided to buy 16" rims for my hatch, loads easier to get cheap rated tyres!
not worth the risk, if you're in an accident that you didn't cause you can still be found "at fault" because you are now driving an unroadworthy vehicle, your tyres are the one thing nobody should skimp on.

i want everybody to still be here tomorrow

i worked in the industry doing brakes, suspension, wheel alignments and tyre fitting so i have seen some nice vehicles with s**t tyres and suspension.
way too scary, suspension, tyres, brakes, steering gear and alignment are the components that keep us in control when driving.
for each component we skimp on we reduce the amount of control for the driver.

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Ryan, remind me to tell you off next time I see you!!!
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phil tell ryan off next time you see him =D
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Old 25-07-2012, 06:58 PM   #79
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ok guys, ive used my fried brain tonight and come up with this (all on paper, didnt look at online calculators)

i have 7" wide +45 rims currently. I have 5mm play before stuff is too close to be safe (i.e. i can go 5mm closer to strut)
7' = 177.8mm approx, 0 offset would = 88.9mm
therefore 43.9mm of the rim is sticking out toward the guard while 133.8mm is toward the strut from the rotor.

so with 5mm extra room I can have a rim which will sit no further than 135mm past the rotor/center of wheel.

So, if someone wanted an 8' rim (203.2mm), 0 offset would see you 33.4mm away from the strut safety zone. = would fit, assuming guard work was done (it may not be possible to do so but at least the wheel would "fit".

for a more realistic approach I tried +35, which would not fit with my measurements (136.6mm into strut!) so a +30 would, leaving you 27.7mm further toward the guards than a 7" 45 as above. (71.6mm from rotor/center of rim)

the 5mm was with 215/45/16 fitted. maybe 205/195 would give more room and sit squarer. I have read 215 will happily fit on 8" wide rims, while people are fitting 155's onto them which is plain stupid.

can someone back this up with solid "ive got this setup and it worked"
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8 inch wide +35 will fit.

my current rims 18x7.5 +42 (fitted stock setup)
XXx8 + 35 = 1mm extra inside space, add 13mm extra outwards.

i'm getting some 15x8 +36 soonish, they will fit, (inside 0mm diff, outside 12mm extra) and the outer lip will be flush with the guards. rear lip will need to be rolled
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