GB FS: PAR racing flywheels for BG astinas and BPTs!!

jim bob · 31-08-2006, 08:23 PM

Howdy,

after the loss of fordlaser.com the group buy for PAR flywheels is back

Whats going on,

Group buy for PAR racing flywheels for all Mazda B series engines. Chrome moly, nitrided and shotpeened. Will be available for B6, B6T fwd/4wd, BPT (235mm), BP N/A (BG astina and tx3)

weight 4kg. Stock weight is around 9kg. Less than half.

Price: $495
availability: 3-4weeks from order

why?: greatly increased acceleration, increased engine braking, increased throttle responce, higher rpm ability. less rotating inertia.

Here are the pictures (SR20 version shown)

So who wants one?

89sp1.8 · 31-08-2006, 08:53 PM

looks good...but dont have the cash atm, other prioritys.
wish i did though

MeFo · 03-09-2006, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89sp1.8

looks good...but dont have the cash atm, other prioritys.
wish i did though

Ditto...

BigMal · 03-09-2006, 07:26 PM

What size clutch do they take???

jim bob · 03-09-2006, 10:12 PM

These will take the 235mm BPT clutch if thats what you are wondering

MeFo · 04-09-2006, 08:47 PM

So does that mean you'd have to upgrade the clutch on a BP?

jim bob · 05-09-2006, 11:54 AM

no, two version available. Stock BG version and BPT 235mm version

Osprey06 · 05-09-2006, 03:50 PM

Jim Bob,

so long as this will suit a B6T (smaller clutch than BP??), then put me down for one.

Cheers,
James

PS. Let me know when/where you/PAR want the $$$.

MeFo · 06-09-2006, 09:46 PM

So if you had an NA engine you'd still be able to fit the 235mm version so long as you upgraded the clutch aswell?

jim bob · 07-09-2006, 04:35 PM

Yep, thats correct. Bolt pcd etc to bolt up to your crank is identical. So if you wanted you could go the 235mm flywheel and buy a BPT clutch and everything would be fine. BPT clutch plate will fit on BG Gseries box spline

chicaboo · 07-09-2006, 09:47 PM

Jim bob,

I cannot find a website or application listing for PAR flywheels. Fidanza and Rocket have been stuffing me around royalé on a flywheel I've had on order with them for 2months. What are my chances of getting a flywheel to suit a 1.8 BJII 323 or 1.6 MX5/Miata?

Cheers,
Gav.

Rupewrecht · 08-09-2006, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osprey06

One question which I had that wasn't answered before the forums went down - would this flywheel (Chromoly/lightweight steel?) need to be machined (like a regular flywheel) or resurfaced (like aluminium ala fidanza flywheels) when changing the clutch?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim bob

It depends on a few things.

Basically this flywheel will survive a lot more abuse than any other flywheel out there. Its nitrided and shotpeened. Both increase the surface hardness. You have a nice hard layer on the top that can take some serious abuse. Once you wear through this layer though, you will have to either retreat the flywheel or get a new one.

I've been told you will get a minimum of three machines out of it before you will need to do this.

Whether or not you will have to machine between clutch changes depends on the clutch type and how hard you slip it. I would think with a fibre clutch there is a good chance you won't have to but I cannot say for sure.

These flywheels kick butt over a fidanza for two reasons. PAR concentrate all the weight into the centre of the flywheel instead of the outside. Its about where the weight is as much as how heavy it is.

Also a steel flywheel is always better than aluminium. It is rigid and won't bend and flutter under high clutch loads. It also won't crack or shatter.

these are serious race part for made by a reputable company.

Ok peoples, it's closing this weekend.

Hook into this thread if you're definitely after one.
http://fordlaser.com/viewtopic.php?t=40961

jim bob · 12-09-2006, 12:41 PM

chicaboo - Fidanza make flywheels for both the BJII and the 1.6 miata.

alas our group buy is not for a flywheel that will fit either. Probably best waiting. Rocket are wallys most of the time on special orders. They dont care about the little people.

It will be Rockets fault, not Fidanza's. They will just be making excuses. If you can get your money back I suggest buying one directly from a US company over the net. You'll get a better deal and you will get it far quicker.

chicaboo · 12-09-2006, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim bob

chicaboo - Fidanza make flywheels for both the BJII and the 1.6 miata.

alas our group buy is not for a flywheel that will fit either. Probably best waiting. Rocket are wallys most of the time on special orders. They dont care about the little people.

It will be Rockets fault, not Fidanza's. They will just be making excuses. If you can get your money back I suggest buying one directly from a US company over the net. You'll get a better deal and you will get it far quicker.

Thx JimBob,

Let me explain about the BJII flywheels from Fidanza. They make a flywheel that specifically fits the 2L SP20/Protegé5, but not the 1.8L version. However, the flywheel from the 1.6L MX5 will fit the BJII 1.8L. I do not know what model of 1.6 MX5, nor if it matters? But that's why I wanted to know if PAR doing anything that will fit directly or indirectly.

Rocket seem to be farkers, I would assume you are right saying it is them and not Fidanza. But the end result is the same, I'm stuffed around with no flywheel 8-9 weeks after paying...

Gav.

Chi_Lantis · 27-09-2006, 01:47 PM

Man!! that flywheel sure is something! do they still have these around??

Rupewrecht · 27-09-2006, 02:00 PM

Sorry, the gruoup buy closed a few weeks ago. You could order one yourself from PAR, but it'll cost about AUD$600

Chi_Lantis · 01-10-2006, 08:46 AM

hmmm not too bad i suppose mayb i can get one for christmas lol do you have the link to getting one of these?

i have a GTR engine sitting inside a 323F BA chasis with the G25M-R so which 1 will i need?

chicaboo · 01-10-2006, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupewrecht

Sorry, the gruoup buy closed a few weeks ago. You could order one yourself from PAR, but it'll cost about AUD$600

Where does one find info on PAR flywheels? In particular, an application guide/chart.

Gav.

Osprey06 · 01-10-2006, 09:24 PM

website is HERE

I haven't been able to find an application list (other than the mainstream subie, nissan stuff etc.)

31-08-2006, 08:23 PM	#1
jim bob Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wollongong Posts: 11	GB FS: PAR racing flywheels for BG astinas and BPTs!! Howdy, after the loss of fordlaser.com the group buy for PAR flywheels is back Whats going on, Group buy for PAR racing flywheels for all Mazda B series engines. Chrome moly, nitrided and shotpeened. Will be available for B6, B6T fwd/4wd, BPT (235mm), BP N/A (BG astina and tx3) weight 4kg. Stock weight is around 9kg. Less than half. Price: $495 availability: 3-4weeks from order why?: greatly increased acceleration, increased engine braking, increased throttle responce, higher rpm ability. less rotating inertia. Here are the pictures (SR20 version shown) So who wants one?

03-09-2006, 07:26 PM	#4
BigMal 1ST BA TURBO MEMBER Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney Car: BA Astina Turbo Posts: 4,195 View Photos By: BigMal	What size clutch do they take??? __________________ If you want wind in your hair add a Hairdryer !!!

03-09-2006, 10:12 PM	#5
jim bob Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wollongong Posts: 11	These will take the 235mm BPT clutch if thats what you are wondering __________________ Mary had a little lamb... yeah really

04-09-2006, 08:47 PM	#6
MeFo AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ballarat Car: Astina GT Posts: 355 View Photos By: MeFo	So does that mean you'd have to upgrade the clutch on a BP? __________________

05-09-2006, 11:54 AM	#7
jim bob Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wollongong Posts: 11	no, two version available. Stock BG version and BPT 235mm version __________________ Mary had a little lamb... yeah really

31-08-2006, 08:53 PM	#2
89sp1.8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brisbane Car: bg astina Posts: 1,186	looks good...but dont have the cash atm, other prioritys. wish i did though

05-09-2006, 03:50 PM	#8
Osprey06 AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canberra Car: 1987 Mazda 323 'SS' FWD turbo Posts: 267	Jim Bob, so long as this will suit a B6T (smaller clutch than BP??), then put me down for one. Cheers, James PS. Let me know when/where you/PAR want the $$$.

06-09-2006, 09:46 PM	#9
MeFo AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ballarat Car: Astina GT Posts: 355 View Photos By: MeFo	So if you had an NA engine you'd still be able to fit the 235mm version so long as you upgraded the clutch aswell? __________________

07-09-2006, 04:35 PM	#10
jim bob Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wollongong Posts: 11	Yep, thats correct. Bolt pcd etc to bolt up to your crank is identical. So if you wanted you could go the 235mm flywheel and buy a BPT clutch and everything would be fine. BPT clutch plate will fit on BG Gseries box spline __________________ Mary had a little lamb... yeah really

07-09-2006, 09:47 PM	#11
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	Jim bob, I cannot find a website or application listing for PAR flywheels. Fidanza and Rocket have been stuffing me around royalé on a flywheel I've had on order with them for 2months. What are my chances of getting a flywheel to suit a 1.8 BJII 323 or 1.6 MX5/Miata? Cheers, Gav.

12-09-2006, 12:41 PM	#13
jim bob Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wollongong Posts: 11	chicaboo - Fidanza make flywheels for both the BJII and the 1.6 miata. alas our group buy is not for a flywheel that will fit either. Probably best waiting. Rocket are wallys most of the time on special orders. They dont care about the little people. It will be Rockets fault, not Fidanza's. They will just be making excuses. If you can get your money back I suggest buying one directly from a US company over the net. You'll get a better deal and you will get it far quicker. __________________ Mary had a little lamb... yeah really

27-09-2006, 01:47 PM	#15
Chi_Lantis Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 16	Man!! that flywheel sure is something! do they still have these around??

27-09-2006, 02:00 PM	#16
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Sorry, the gruoup buy closed a few weeks ago. You could order one yourself from PAR, but it'll cost about AUD$600 __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

01-10-2006, 08:46 AM	#17
Chi_Lantis Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 16	hmmm not too bad i suppose mayb i can get one for christmas lol do you have the link to getting one of these? i have a GTR engine sitting inside a 323F BA chasis with the G25M-R so which 1 will i need?

01-10-2006, 09:24 PM	#19
Osprey06 AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canberra Car: 1987 Mazda 323 'SS' FWD turbo Posts: 267	website is HERE I haven't been able to find an application list (other than the mainstream subie, nissan stuff etc.)