Regarding Lights/Leds On Cluster, Heater - How To Change ....

Noble323 · 20-02-2007, 05:20 PM

Hi,

i wanted to ask is there a thread or someone knows how to change the led on the cluster or heater controls or lights on de-fog, foglights etc......

Some of my lights are faded - and id like to change them to newer ones or even different colour (like blue) is there a guide someone knows (hopefully theres pictures) ?

Is it a hard job to do ?

i just wanna see how its done and where do you remove the old leds to put new ones ?

Plutonus · 20-02-2007, 05:23 PM

From Club323F, handy .pdf guide. http://www.club323f.com/ba/guides/da...eplacement.pdf

Rupewrecht · 20-02-2007, 05:25 PM

To change the heater controls you've got to take apart the heater unit - just a coupla plugs ad a few screws (once you remove the gauge part of the dash). Then solder new LEDs in.

There's also tiny bulbs that light the hot/cold strips, so you've got to change them too.

Noble323 · 21-02-2007, 09:27 AM

Thanks 4 the reply guys, much help and many thanks to Plutonus for the guide through (pdf file) will try to attempt very soon. (looks like a bit of fiddling for the heater box)

Rupewrecht · 21-02-2007, 09:39 AM

Wow that's completely different insides to the heater box than mine

Noble323 · 21-02-2007, 10:39 AM

Just another quick question, in the cluster were you replace the 3 bulbs (speedo, revs, heat and fuel gauge) in the same bulb does it light the needle for the speedo, revs, heat and fuel gauge ?

Cause the reason i ask, is that i seen some clusters with blue background but needle is green.

Rupewrecht · 21-02-2007, 10:51 AM

same bulb...but there's more than 3!

Eire323f · 23-02-2007, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupewrecht

same bulb...but there's more than 3!

I only changed the three that are out in that picture and dials and needles are all blue. They are slightly dimmer than the original green but I've read that if you sand the back of the dials it helps disperse the light better so the next time I have the dash out I'm going to try this.
I much prefer the blue look though.

Noble323 · 23-02-2007, 07:31 AM

Would anyone know the bulb size/proper name when i go and get them ? or are they just standard or .... ?

Chances are im ganna change the rev, speedo, fuel&heat gauge, since mines a auto it has the P,R,N,D...etc... on it and with chance some, foglight etc..... so in other works need a couple .

(The Heater/Fan console will be done maybe a week after i do the cluster, incase i stuff up

)

Eire323f · 23-02-2007, 08:50 PM

I'm not positive but I think they are the same size capsule bulbs as the side lights. 501's I think. I still have the originals that came out. I'll check them and get back to you.

Eire323f · 23-02-2007, 11:03 PM

Just checked the old bulbs and there are no visible markings left on it except a faded 12V. I had a look on a site that I buy bulbs from and the majority of the ones listed were 509. They look like the ones that came out of my dash but I can't say for certain. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

skitz · 01-03-2007, 10:44 AM

dan u would have to know:P

to do everythink listed in the PDF could someone please tell me what i need ie

3X ...
7X...
1X...
etc thanks heaps
hey and the next question would be dan didnt u have some for sale a while ago?

Rupewrecht · 01-03-2007, 03:30 PM

LOL. Umm. Only cause you PMed me

Dial Cluster:
3 x 194/168 wedge base bulbs for the dials, as the 3 others are indicator/fuel.
Refer here - http://superbrightleds.com/mini-wedge.html -> Single LED Wedge Base Bulbs

Heater Controls:
You'll need 7 LEDs (not bulbs) and possibly suitable resistors to go inline behind them. Something around 3000mcd as you don't need them to be superbright as otherwise they annoy backseat passengers (speaking from experience here!).
Have a look inside the box and you'll see how they're set up
http://superbrightleds.com/leds.htm

There's also two minature bulbs inside the box. Well at least inside mine but there's a few different versions of the heater controls, so you might want to check first.
Refer here - http://superbrightleds.com/mini-wedge.html -> Instrument Cluster and Gauge Backlights -> the T1.5 and B8.3D lamps

Personally i wouldn't bother with the hazard/demister.

And my heater internals are waaay different to that.

skitz · 01-03-2007, 04:16 PM

thanx papa dan

Savvyfx · 01-03-2007, 04:30 PM

mine came out way dimmer and 'splotchy'
I'll pull the dash out again later after the Clipsal and make sure they are all working.

For the money savers out there, you can change the needles to white by just taking the rubber green covers off the current bulbs (NB: in theory, I haven't actually tried this myself)

Rupewrecht · 01-03-2007, 04:51 PM

Yeah, i think that'd work.

If you really want to change the color of them, use some transparent hobby paint on the top edge.

20-02-2007, 05:20 PM	#1
Noble323 E74A Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Car: SP20 Posts: 1,248	Regarding Lights/Leds On Cluster, Heater - How To Change .... Hi, i wanted to ask is there a thread or someone knows how to change the led on the cluster or heater controls or lights on de-fog, foglights etc...... Some of my lights are faded - and id like to change them to newer ones or even different colour (like blue) is there a guide someone knows (hopefully theres pictures) ? Is it a hard job to do ? i just wanna see how its done and where do you remove the old leds to put new ones ?

20-02-2007, 05:23 PM	#2
Plutonus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney, NSW Car: Traitor vehicle Posts: 778 View Photos By: Plutonus	From Club323F, handy .pdf guide. http://www.club323f.com/ba/guides/da...eplacement.pdf __________________

20-02-2007, 05:25 PM	#3
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	To change the heater controls you've got to take apart the heater unit - just a coupla plugs ad a few screws (once you remove the gauge part of the dash). Then solder new LEDs in. There's also tiny bulbs that light the hot/cold strips, so you've got to change them too. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

21-02-2007, 09:39 AM	#5
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Wow that's completely different insides to the heater box than mine __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

21-02-2007, 10:51 AM	#7
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	same bulb...but there's more than 3! __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1 Last edited by Rupewrecht; 21-02-2007 at 10:54 AM.

21-02-2007, 09:27 AM	#4
Noble323 E74A Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Car: SP20 Posts: 1,248	Thanks 4 the reply guys, much help and many thanks to Plutonus for the guide through (pdf file) will try to attempt very soon. (looks like a bit of fiddling for the heater box)

21-02-2007, 10:39 AM	#6
Noble323 E74A Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Car: SP20 Posts: 1,248	Just another quick question, in the cluster were you replace the 3 bulbs (speedo, revs, heat and fuel gauge) in the same bulb does it light the needle for the speedo, revs, heat and fuel gauge ? Cause the reason i ask, is that i seen some clusters with blue background but needle is green.

23-02-2007, 07:31 AM	#9
Noble323 E74A Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Car: SP20 Posts: 1,248	Would anyone know the bulb size/proper name when i go and get them ? or are they just standard or .... ? Chances are im ganna change the rev, speedo, fuel&heat gauge, since mines a auto it has the P,R,N,D...etc... on it and with chance some, foglight etc..... so in other works need a couple . (The Heater/Fan console will be done maybe a week after i do the cluster, incase i stuff up )

23-02-2007, 08:50 PM	#10
Eire323f Stupid like a fox! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Coast, Ireland Car: 323f V6 BA Posts: 38 View Photos By: Eire323f	I'm not positive but I think they are the same size capsule bulbs as the side lights. 501's I think. I still have the originals that came out. I'll check them and get back to you.

23-02-2007, 11:03 PM	#11
Eire323f Stupid like a fox! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Coast, Ireland Car: 323f V6 BA Posts: 38 View Photos By: Eire323f	Just checked the old bulbs and there are no visible markings left on it except a faded 12V. I had a look on a site that I buy bulbs from and the majority of the ones listed were 509. They look like the ones that came out of my dash but I can't say for certain. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

01-03-2007, 10:44 AM	#12
skitz I'm not as dumb as my posts would indicate Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: jerrabomberra N.S.W (A.C.T) Car: astina ba 97 Posts: 1,245 View Photos By: skitz	dan u would have to know:P to do everythink listed in the PDF could someone please tell me what i need ie 3X ... 7X... 1X... etc thanks heaps hey and the next question would be dan didnt u have some for sale a while ago? __________________ Enjoying the new Skitz Effect: 09 Mazda RX-8 GT Wakefield Park: 1:14.8100

01-03-2007, 03:30 PM	#13
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	LOL. Umm. Only cause you PMed me Dial Cluster: 3 x 194/168 wedge base bulbs for the dials, as the 3 others are indicator/fuel. Refer here - http://superbrightleds.com/mini-wedge.html -> Single LED Wedge Base Bulbs Heater Controls: You'll need 7 LEDs (not bulbs) and possibly suitable resistors to go inline behind them. Something around 3000mcd as you don't need them to be superbright as otherwise they annoy backseat passengers (speaking from experience here!). Have a look inside the box and you'll see how they're set up http://superbrightleds.com/leds.htm There's also two minature bulbs inside the box. Well at least inside mine but there's a few different versions of the heater controls, so you might want to check first. Refer here - http://superbrightleds.com/mini-wedge.html -> Instrument Cluster and Gauge Backlights -> the T1.5 and B8.3D lamps Personally i wouldn't bother with the hazard/demister. And my heater internals are waaay different to that. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

01-03-2007, 04:16 PM	#14
skitz I'm not as dumb as my posts would indicate Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: jerrabomberra N.S.W (A.C.T) Car: astina ba 97 Posts: 1,245 View Photos By: skitz	thanx papa dan __________________ Enjoying the new Skitz Effect: 09 Mazda RX-8 GT Wakefield Park: 1:14.8100

01-03-2007, 04:30 PM	#15
Savvyfx Awesome Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: . Car: . Posts: 238 View Photos By: Savvyfx	mine came out way dimmer and 'splotchy' I'll pull the dash out again later after the Clipsal and make sure they are all working. For the money savers out there, you can change the needles to white by just taking the rubber green covers off the current bulbs (NB: in theory, I haven't actually tried this myself)

01-03-2007, 04:51 PM	#16
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Yeah, i think that'd work. If you really want to change the color of them, use some transparent hobby paint on the top edge. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

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