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29-02-2008, 08:14 PM | #1 |
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Very Scary Experience
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Today shortly after school finished I was driving the Astina with me, my brother, and three friends in it. I approached a corner, not too sharp at 60kph, the speed limit. Suddenly after exiting the corner I noticed we where heading too far over to the left, towards the Bremer River, I over-corrected to the right hand side and ended up spinning out doing a 180 and parked on the opposite side of the road facing the wrong way. I sat there, I was feeling sick. This was the most scary thing that has ever happened to me. It wasn't me I was scared for but the other passengers in the vehicle. The corner wasn't sharp, the speed was within the limit. It turned out to be the tyres. After sitting in the car for a few seconds, I got out, very shaken. Some guy in a ute who was driving past pulled over and started abusing me. I apolised, I didn't know what to say, I wasn't being stupid, and he was calling me a ****** stupid driver, and saying people like me kill people everyday. The two tyres on the left hand side of the car where dragged off the rims. and the car didn't start. I called my dad, and he told me to walk to the nearest tyre shop and see if they had a truck that could some out and fix me up. We walked to Beaurepairs, they told me I needed 2 new tyres & rims. Then we headed to Kmart Tyres, they quoted me $20 to fix it, however they didnt have the equipment to go out and do it, I needed to find a way to get my car to them, and they would fix it. The guy there was awesome, he told me to head over to 'Grayam Crookes Tyres & More' they where even better, he took me and my mate back to the car in thier truck, jacked it up the tyres fell back onto the rims and he pumped them back up. Slowly, we drove back to the shop, they took the tyres & rims off and sunk them into a big drum of water to check for leaks, all was good. then they even tyre shined them for me! We asked how much and they wouldn't let us pay them, so we went home and picked up Steve's dad and bought them a 24 pack of stubbies (on special for $29.95. I will add thier details to the good bussiness place. Also im going to get my tyres replaced there and I also need a wheel alignment. He showed me the bald spot on the left front tyre. and the right one was fine. Its good they show you wants going on. Unlike Beaurepairs who advised me for new tyres & rims, without even seeing the damage. Anyway, I've learn't my lesson, no more corners above 10kph. No flame please No 'ZOMFG ****ING IDIOT KTHX' Andy. |
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29-02-2008, 08:18 PM | #2 |
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hahaha better make it 5km's mate. glad to hear everyones ok.
the people who yell at drivers also cause casualties.. mostly due to other people beating their face in. ive had it before mate and without knowing the story he had no place telling you that. but on a serious note. did the last place advise you on what to do with the rims? ive never heard about tires falling off without being seriously under-inflated. hope your alright matey
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29-02-2008, 08:22 PM | #3 |
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good to hear you are ok dude ... sounds like your back tyres let go? i did the exact same thing on clear mountain about 4 months after leaving school. go book yourself a driving course. they will teach you how to correct situations like that. i have myself booked in for one in 3 weeks... cant wait.
as i said good to hear you are all ok Nate
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29-02-2008, 11:22 PM | #4 |
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In the end it's about driving at a speed to suit the conditions (while staying within the law). That's something that comes with experience. Driving courses help can with that.
But good to hear you're ok, and no-one else was hurt.
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We are all humans and we all make mistakes Similar thing happend to me. And I've done a fair whack of experice driving. Plus other situations. Driving in Asia and the like. But I went into a corner all was well - At some nice large 3 lane traffic lights. Sydney siders know it well King- georges road. lights with Moorefeilds road. Turned the corner. Now I was at speed 40km/h maybe even 50. but I had bit of metal puncture my tyre. Turning right - left hand tyre sidewall gouged out 4 inchs- I saved the car except for the guttter but I missed all the sings and concreate and any other car. Tyres and wheels and cars are cheap - Life is not. |
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01-03-2008, 02:14 AM | #6 |
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mmm i've done it twice, once in the wet when i basically hit the corner going too fast (its a 2 lane 180 turn-around near my place, wide and long) and the back end let go, i managed to hold the car sideways through it and safely missed the gutters, it was at 1am so no traffic thank god. my mate following said that was the best drift he'd seen on the road XD
second was near the gf. no warning, it just let go. spun right around. i only noticed the oil when i got out and checked the road. i'm looking at driving courses, where you going nate?
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01-03-2008, 09:10 AM | #7 |
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Hey Guys. The Promblem was the tyre PSI was 24, not the recommended 38. In the tight turn the tyre rolled off the rim.
Well thats my theroy. EDIT - And me and my friends are all booking into a Defensive Driving School together hehe. Better safe than sorry! |
01-03-2008, 10:52 AM | #8 |
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man its good to hear everyone's ok.
like mentioned above, we're human and we make mistakes. some by accident, some due to inexperience and ignorance and some because we make a stupid decision. Ive had the back go on me a lot of times, sometimes coz it was very slippery and sometimes because ive yanked the handbrake up and now days correcting has really become just a reflex. I used to practice this kinda junk on my mates property in the counry, dirt roads with massive run off area wherever you look and overflater rear tires which give you the perfect training conditions. Now im not saying that my driving is full proof, no ones is but if you can find a safe place to practice being out of control then that it allows you to study what actually happens in each case and also find the best solution to resolving it and regaining control of your car. Theory is one thing, implementing it in the moment when you have no time to think and need a correct reflex is another. A training course will be a great idea, and keep the car looked after. Just the general things. Keep an eye on the fluids, keep the tires pressurised correctly and just have a peek at everything from time to time to make sure no nasty suprises come out of it.
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01-03-2008, 10:59 AM | #9 |
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always check things on your car and properly maintain it... also go do a driver training course.... you will have fun but will learn some things that will make you a better driver...
if you do decide to modify your car focus on things that will actually make it safer rather than what some people do is whack a quick engine in and forget about the rest..... wider size rims and tyres will improve your handling along with sway bars and get a decent set of brake pads and rotors...or an upgrded package lowering the car with a decent set of springs helps too and then you can put whatever you want under the hood. I use to go on twisty road runs in my bog standard ae92 corolla seca and after i did what i just mentioned you would be pretty impressed at how much better the car feels and how safer it is.....
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I most definatelly second that.
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01-03-2008, 01:27 PM | #11 |
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Glad to hear you alright mate, And yeah the boys over at Crookys are great, there always there to lend a hand...
Anyways, where abouts did this happen, cause i got a picture that it happened at the back of Eddies when you go along the river to go past riverheart parklands, but yeah please elaborate for us . Marc
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don't know, 24 psi doesn't sound low enough for the tyre to come off the rim, i'm thinking low single digits more likely, or u hit some really large obstacle, even then, would've burst the tyre not torn it off.
Do every driving school you can, none will be a waste of money, all will improve your driving ability by measures, only issue is: you could've been schumacher, without tyres, their ain't much you can do to recover from a spin. Good to hear you all pulled up ok. batter maintenece of your car sounds the way to go.
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01-03-2008, 04:50 PM | #13 |
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I'm learning. Only been on the road for a few months.
Before that I knew Jack-All about cars. Marc - I think we are thinking of the same place, the bremer river on the left hand side, and a big concrete retaining wall on the other, holding back eddies from the road. |
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Oh and its 50km/h along that stretch, i nearly got caught cause of it Marc
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1st of all - glad you and your passengers are safe and well. these things that you walk away from always build you into a better driver if you learn from it.
24psi isn't enough to roll the tyre unless you were doing a higher speed that you thought. i haven't been able to roll a tyre with 10psi in it. driving course = good move. you'll learn so much and is a really fun day. i had one up in the queensland section no long ago also. ryan |
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Oh its only 50?. Opps, been driving that road every single day at 60 for the last 2 months. Good job there where no speed cameras!!
Marc if you go down there have a look at the grass on the eddies side, It has 2 massive tyre marks ripped out of it, thats where I went sidewards. Ryan, Yeah I really am looking forward to it. My driving instructor when I was on my Learners highly recommended it to me, and gave me a $50 off. He runs them where you can bring your own car, he says because every car handles differently, but I think we will end up going to the Holden Performance Driving Center on Mount Cotton. Name & Locations may or may not actually exist |
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and yes seeing that its classed as residential road, its 50km/h. I dont know if this would help, but when I was in grade 12 (2003), one of our teachers organised for us with learners & P's to do a driver training course at Willowbank raceway for the day, it was $95 and we got to either scoot round in our own cars or brand new Proton Satria. I just googled and found these that might be of interest to you. defensive driving course at willowbank raceway
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theres also driving course at mt cotton,going to do one myself last nov,didnt get time..so this year at some stage
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Sorry to hear the story mate. Don't beat yourself up. We're young, we make bad choices. It's part of growing up.
Having said that, my advice is; Never, ever do anything riske' with passengers. Ever. It's just not worth it. Although I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that after ya experience. Hope it doesn't take too long for your driving confidence to return; albeit with a heightened sense of safety. |
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Glad to hear everyone was okay mate; good work on giving the lads some stubbies.
*that was a good read also* |
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