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Old 02-07-2007, 06:05 PM   #61
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UPDATE:

We left the car at my parents place last night, the old boy called me up this morning to tell me that the no.4 spark plug was completely squashed! after hearing this, i quickly raced over there with another set just to see what would happen when we put some fresh plugs in. It sounds like whatever is swimming round is still embedded in the piston...

The parents mechanic is gonna speak with mazda at bundamba 2moro to see what grounds we have to stand on... Im still screwed anyways.

Would anyone have a clue how much it would be to actually fix?

Marc
Couple of grand probably if you just go and swap the engine for another - bit extra you forge it and turn it into a party machine....
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:41 PM   #62
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Couple of grand probably if you just go and swap the engine for another - bit extra you forge it and turn it into a party machine....
Thats all that I will be doing, just getting the car going as far as im concerned, Im not going forged as i cant be stuffed turboíng the car, not now or in 2-3 years time...

The stina will be towed to mazda to have it checked out and will find out what the outcome will be. After that a decision will be made by mazda if it will be covered by mazda or ill have to fork out the big $$$, its looking towards me atm...
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:43 PM   #63
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Yeah, that's when Mazda will tell you that your exhaust tip, eyelids, black taillights and subwoofer caused the damage...
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:48 PM   #64
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Yeah, that's when Mazda will tell you that your exhaust tip, eyelids, black taillights and subwoofer caused the damage...
Hehehe Took the eyelids, taillights & stereo out this afternoon, the car is basically marc free & all thats in the car is the dashmat, they aint getting much outta me!!!
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:58 PM   #65
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yea thats me.. so do i go to any mazda dealer?
Get it checked out at any mazda dealer ASAP!!! Seriously I dont want anyone to go down the path of having no car and losing thousands of dollars on a mazda farkup
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:03 AM   #66
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UPDATE:

as im writing this, the car is at mazda getting looked at (taking the head off, looking at the damage & reporting back). supposedly i have a 70% chance that mazda will come to the table with fixing it etc, so thats a little bit of relief, but i still have my doubts...
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Old 03-07-2007, 05:27 PM   #67
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Thats all that I will be doing, just getting the car going as far as im concerned, Im not going forged as i cant be stuffed turboíng the car, not now or in 2-3 years time...

The stina will be towed to mazda to have it checked out and will find out what the outcome will be. After that a decision will be made by mazda if it will be covered by mazda or ill have to fork out the big $$$, its looking towards me atm...
there are NA benefits to forging...namely crazy spastic RPM, higher compression etc...
but yeah, the bill for supporting mods (the ecu and so forth) gets a bit out of control when you go down this path...

good luck with mazda! i should get my VICS looked at...even though i don't have it running at the moment.... :P
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Old 04-07-2007, 04:01 PM   #68
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UPDATE:

Spoke to the mazda dealership this afternoon, they have pulled off the head... I have certainly done a piston and from what they can see there is damage to the bore... So im looking at major major bills...

Will hear the final word from mazda on friday whether they will pay it or not...
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Old 04-07-2007, 04:32 PM   #69
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ouch marc that sucks specially since its not a real old car
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:22 PM   #70
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UPDATE:

ok, got a little pissed off by the no reply from Boettcher Motors, so I rang them up, found otu that the head has been sent off to be cracktested (has something to do with the report & that Mazda HQ wanted it done) so its looking more like monday or tuesday before I will have a final answer...

After a lot thinking over the last few days ( I have bugger all sleep since saturday night) that I will buy a gemini once my tax has come thru. Its becoming ever so hard to get to and from work over the last week and dont want this to happen for the next 3 weeks (oh gav I really feel ure pain!)

Will update everyone once I know something...

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Old 11-07-2007, 12:08 PM   #71
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car is not getting fixed thru warranty, mazda basically laughed at the claim, so im looking a ball park figure of around $4000 to get fixed... The car is gonna be taken elsewhere where i can get it done for around half the price mazda has quoted...
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:13 PM   #72
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sorry to hear about the bad news Marc!.
Friggin Mazda!!!!
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:15 PM   #73
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Oh that's BS! It's a known problem, and it's not like it's a service check item. What a crock of ****.

Sorry to hear Marc
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:21 PM   #74
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damnnnnn...you could prob buy a new engine for that much...lucky i dont go near mazda...
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:24 PM   #75
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This is what i just emailed to mazda...

Hi,

My Mazda 323 was taken to Ian Boettcher motors with an engine failure of some sort, after 1 week of not knowing what it was, get a phone call this afternoon stating that the car will not be getting fixed under mazdas warranty as its deemed not a warranty issue. The problem with the car is the butterfly screws coming loose and possibly doing damage, in my case a lot. There was a service bullitin was done on all SP20's built between 01/03/03 & 01/09/03 to fix this problem, but clearly in my case my SP20 is built date, it didnt need to be done. I have a lot of friends that drive these cars (all on www.astinagt.com), and i have claims that this problem goes back to cars built in 1999!

Seeing that my car was knocked back by mazda for any compensation due to my engine dying, please give me a detailed description as to what happened.

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Old 12-07-2007, 06:20 PM   #76
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you can get an FS from mazda auto recyclers that'll give you change out of $3k...if you are willing to put in some extra work, you can get a cheaper FS from a 626 and swap the stuff thats different over (cam and crank sensors, a few other bits of the harness so the SP20 ecu will plug in).

for $4k, you could nearly have the thing built!


edit: if they were just going to laugh your claim off, what was with getting the head crack tested and so forth? hope your not out of pocket for unrelated/unnecessary tests. Pulling the manifold off and noticing that your VICS butterfly was missing should have satisfied them that it was the culprit for the blow up.
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Old 13-07-2007, 02:17 PM   #77
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QUOTE FROM IAN BOETTCHER MOTORS HERE IN IPSWICH TO REPAIR...



Im going to get a few more quotes this afternoon...

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Ask him if he'll use secondhand parts (where possible).
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did mazda get back to you?
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Ask him if he'll use secondhand parts (where possible).
Thats mazdas quote, and its all new parts... just went and checked out the car myself, the butterfly flap is like in a million pieces sitting on top of the cat... The head has no damage, just has some pitting which will come out with a shave. The No. 4 bore tho will need a light bore. the floor foreman is gonna chase around to see if he can find some of these butterfly flaps cause there is anything wrong with the manifold itself!

The problem with teh sp20's that did get the recall was that the butterfly screws came loose, letting the flaps loose & subsequently digging into the alloy manifold, thus why they replaced the whole manifold in those effected cars, now mine hasnt got any indication of it wearing but there is still a bit of play in both the No. 1 & 3 butterflies...

lol its funny how a $1 peice of metal can do $3000 worth of damage
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