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02-05-2005, 08:19 PM | #1 |
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Turbo before AutoSalon
Hi All,
Since we be talking about AutoSalon so much, I want to be in it under the AGT banner in Decemeber. So... I have money and I better start buying bits, or I will go and spend it on something else, like my rear brakes! (which wont make much difference) or sound system (Even though I think the standard one is good for me). Now.. where do I start, I am thinking I get an intercooler next? I have the GT4 Turbo (CT26 Twin Entry) already. After the intercooler, what else can/should i just buy? (not talking about making manifold/down pipes/exhaust yet) whats step 2 or should I not get the intercooler yet? |
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02-05-2005, 08:31 PM | #2 |
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Are you going to turbo your NA or buy the GTX motor I forget.
The bits to buy are Intercooler, BOV, Clutch and ECU. You can also do a cat back exhaust ready for the turbo. The rest is done when the motor comes out.
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02-05-2005, 08:32 PM | #3 |
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be careful and dont rush it - you might end up with a car that isnt ready to show at all
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02-05-2005, 08:35 PM | #4 |
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yeah do the things that can swap over to turbo so it's a quicker swap. get the exhaust ready, ecu, clutch etc...
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02-05-2005, 08:55 PM | #5 |
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Forget talk about frontcuts and GTX motors, you have a BJ, no such option for you unfortunately...
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02-05-2005, 08:57 PM | #6 | |
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Its a 2003 BJII, so no halfcuts.
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Clutch I can get done. |
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02-05-2005, 09:59 PM | #7 |
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3" exhaust will work on NA. will suck, but will still work. wont stop you from getting from A to B.
ecu - it's just a matter of playing with the fuel and timing and your done. you only need 1 MAP sensor. |
02-05-2005, 10:08 PM | #8 |
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What sort of power are you chasing man, i wont be turboing my car to sometime next year and i might get some people together and we could do something like a group buy if you cant wait, otherwise the people to talk to about this are bora or doug as they have been down the path your about to follow.
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04-05-2005, 10:21 AM | #9 |
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Aftermarket computer would be a given if you want it to run properly. You can install it on the N/A but you'll need to get it retuned when you fit the turbo.
What about injectors? I would find out what size the stock injectors and find out what bigger ones would fit if the stockos are too small......or at least fit a rising rate fuel regulator. |
04-05-2005, 12:59 PM | #10 |
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You don't really need injectors on the BJ until you're over 10-12psi I believe, they shouvle in heaps of fuel already...
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04-05-2005, 01:26 PM | #11 |
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well, not chasing big, power, but the plan is:
* get a manifold that will fit onto the garret turbo later, right now make it fit the ct26 * exhaust should be the same for the future * the haltech e6x should be retunable for new turbo/internals * the piping should be reusable mostly with intercooler |
04-05-2005, 01:28 PM | #12 |
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i am thinking.. uhm.. 120~130 ATW? just standard 6~7psi, don't want to blow up anything.
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04-05-2005, 03:07 PM | #13 |
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sounds pretty realistic Anton is making 125 kw at the wheels of 6 or 7 psi boost and thats in a 1.8 so you should be able to make another 5 or 10 kw on top of that. Keep us posted and good luck with it all.
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04-05-2005, 03:50 PM | #14 |
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Just about to get my intercooler... any ideas about size?
600mm wide I was thinking? not sure? |
04-05-2005, 04:14 PM | #15 |
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get one that will fit neatly in that grill between your fog lights like the street dreams fmic
from memory they sell the intercooler for like 440
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04-05-2005, 07:01 PM | #16 | |
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Also there was mention about clutch? Is this something that has to be done? Or can I stay with standard (+love&care) to save money tilll after autosalon? |
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04-05-2005, 08:47 PM | #17 |
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the standard BA 1.8 injectors are good for 200kw atw so i'd imagine the BJ ones would be much the same
as for clutch, you'd be better off with a heavy duty one of some sort
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04-05-2005, 08:54 PM | #18 |
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dont go over the top with an intercooler. you loose power (as they arent efficient) and you increase turbo lag.
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04-05-2005, 10:43 PM | #19 |
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ok, intercooler size I should have tomorrow.
I think I will leave the clutch till after AutoSalon, Turbo Timer will be later as well. Will get in touch with Doug about install of a Haltek E6X. Any suggestions on places that make manifolds/piping? |
04-05-2005, 11:40 PM | #20 |
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my try liverpool exhausts maybe they might make you a custom one, otherwise brad with the silver sp20 sedan has a turbo manifold he brought of ebay see if he plans on using and if not buy that one of him, butim not sure if he plans on using it.
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