BA Air Con - Page 2

Clean_Cookie · 20-11-2009, 05:17 PM

ah HA! seems like everyones is the same as mine! if its a cold mornining it will work on startup for 5-10 mins, maybe less, then not work, turnign off the button for 2-3 minutes and then trying again gets approx 5 mins of cold air. then same problem. when its hot it works for 2 mins then stops working... HELP! ive noticed that when you press the AC button the compressor wont start, (i.e. it doesnt feel like the car is going to stall for a split second) but the sound/engine speed adjusts as if everything is working fine. its pointless as is, because in that 5 mins its not working its a sweatbox. left it idling in the shade and got 15 mins on a winters day, measured around 6 degrees C from vents, its awesome when its going, its just like its on a 10% duty cycle haha...
any helps/tips would be awesome and seeing as mr fixit lives in moggill i might have to pay you a visit and if you can fix it will give you some $$

Cosmo Dude · 20-11-2009, 06:02 PM

Find the receiver/dryer, the thing circled in the pic.

The receiver/dryer apart from it's main function has a pressure switch and a little round glass window. With the A/C compressor running have a look at the window and you'll see a stream of bubbles.... the more bubbles the less gas in the system. I'd expect to see lots of bubbles.

maztech · 20-11-2009, 07:41 PM

R134a systems always have bubbles in the sight glass
tc3 sounds like your gas is low i would have a look at it for you but i dont have a a/c machine at home to top up your system - iam sure could work out something for you at work to do it though.

project.r.racing · 20-11-2009, 07:52 PM

drove mine to work today. a/c stayed on for 20 mins, (normally only 5) but was blowing regular temp air by then. was only cold for the 1st 10 mins.

RustyKaos · 20-11-2009, 10:58 PM

Was after the diagram as in my accident lost all the wiring to the pump. Have a friend who is a fridgy and can gas it all up for me but need to wire in the pump first.

Cheers Jarrod

maztech · 20-11-2009, 11:20 PM

I can help you out with wiring if you want message me and i will organise something.

I can go into work in the morning and get diagram if you need it this weekend

Clean_Cookie · 24-11-2009, 07:01 AM

unless im an idiot, I can't see the window... I've got a pipe in, pipe out, and plug thingo. is it on the top or Bottom :s

thanks

DavoAust · 24-11-2009, 07:49 PM

yeah mine hasn't got a window on top either, but i didnt look around too much. gonna get it regassed thursday before i drive up the coast

maztech · 24-11-2009, 08:41 PM

Only some of the early kits had em in the receiver/drier as with R134a gas you dont use this method to check the gas level

project.r.racing · 24-11-2009, 08:43 PM

what method can you use?

maztech · 24-11-2009, 08:46 PM

A/C pressure gauges and weight of gas in system during recover and charging

asanga · 25-11-2009, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by project.r.racing

what method can you use?

This method

Clean_Cookie · 26-11-2009, 12:55 PM

and i have one of those meters where LOL. ill sort it out when i get the new old engine haha. until then i have 20% duty cycle air con hooray.

miah87 · 12-03-2010, 02:23 PM

How much do they cost?

New aircon for BA astina = ?

Second hand aircon for BA astina = ?

My aircon really stinks. Spraying it doesnt work. I guess the only way is to change the aircon?

DavoAust · 13-03-2010, 01:24 AM

i'd check the intake for rotten leaves etc that have fallen through and gotten stuck down there. otherwise cleaning companies can normally remove ANYTHING

miah87 · 13-03-2010, 08:47 AM

Flushing it will remove rotten leaves or etc as well?

Clean_Cookie · 13-03-2010, 05:54 PM

aircon will be around $1100... i got it done in January (new compressor, rec/drier and a few o rings. helpful guy with a 24 month garentee...

that has nothing to do with the smell afaik. its a sealed system (sorta like a HWS at your house, it doesnt actually contact the chemicals/gas inside...) so its a fan problem - id have to imagine that it would smell with the fan on? if not perhaps theres an airfilter for teh air going into the aircon system... maybe worth a look?

miah87 · 13-03-2010, 07:05 PM

Tried only with the fan, smells a lil. If the A/C switch is on then the smell is a lot stronger. This smell doesnt occur everytime, sometimes it has no smell at all but sometimes the smell is strong. When the smell is strong, I'll switch off the A/C switch for a few minutes with only the fan on then turn the A/C on and this works. But it doesnt work all the time tho.

Cosmo Dude · 13-03-2010, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miah87

Tried only with the fan, smells a lil. If the A/C switch is on then the smell is a lot stronger. This smell doesnt occur everytime, sometimes it has no smell at all but sometimes the smell is strong. When the smell is strong, I'll switch off the A/C switch for a few minutes with only the fan on then turn the A/C on and this works. But it doesnt work all the time tho.

Go under the passengers side dash and remove the fan. Poke your hand up in the hole and have a feel for any rotting rubbish.

miah87 · 13-03-2010, 09:06 PM

thx cosmo, I'll try that tomorrow. Hope this works...

20-11-2009, 05:17 PM	#21
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	ah HA! seems like everyones is the same as mine! if its a cold mornining it will work on startup for 5-10 mins, maybe less, then not work, turnign off the button for 2-3 minutes and then trying again gets approx 5 mins of cold air. then same problem. when its hot it works for 2 mins then stops working... HELP! ive noticed that when you press the AC button the compressor wont start, (i.e. it doesnt feel like the car is going to stall for a split second) but the sound/engine speed adjusts as if everything is working fine. its pointless as is, because in that 5 mins its not working its a sweatbox. left it idling in the shade and got 15 mins on a winters day, measured around 6 degrees C from vents, its awesome when its going, its just like its on a 10% duty cycle haha... any helps/tips would be awesome and seeing as mr fixit lives in moggill i might have to pay you a visit and if you can fix it will give you some $$ __________________ Worklog

20-11-2009, 06:02 PM	#22
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	Find the receiver/dryer, the thing circled in the pic. The receiver/dryer apart from it's main function has a pressure switch and a little round glass window. With the A/C compressor running have a look at the window and you'll see a stream of bubbles.... the more bubbles the less gas in the system. I'd expect to see lots of bubbles. __________________ My 'stina Hatch

20-11-2009, 10:58 PM	#25
RustyKaos Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Side Brisbane Car: 1998 BA 323 Astina Hardtop Posts: 1,414 View Photos By: RustyKaos	Was after the diagram as in my accident lost all the wiring to the pump. Have a friend who is a fridgy and can gas it all up for me but need to wire in the pump first. Cheers Jarrod __________________ Everytime an idiot dies, 20 more are born. Come challenge me. I dare ya.

20-11-2009, 11:20 PM	#26
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	I can help you out with wiring if you want message me and i will organise something. I can go into work in the morning and get diagram if you need it this weekend Last edited by maztech; 20-11-2009 at 11:35 PM.

24-11-2009, 07:01 AM	#27
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	unless im an idiot, I can't see the window... I've got a pipe in, pipe out, and plug thingo. is it on the top or Bottom :s thanks __________________ Worklog

20-11-2009, 07:41 PM	#23
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	R134a systems always have bubbles in the sight glass tc3 sounds like your gas is low i would have a look at it for you but i dont have a a/c machine at home to top up your system - iam sure could work out something for you at work to do it though.

20-11-2009, 07:52 PM	#24
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	drove mine to work today. a/c stayed on for 20 mins, (normally only 5) but was blowing regular temp air by then. was only cold for the 1st 10 mins.

24-11-2009, 07:49 PM	#28
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	yeah mine hasn't got a window on top either, but i didnt look around too much. gonna get it regassed thursday before i drive up the coast __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

24-11-2009, 08:41 PM	#29
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	Only some of the early kits had em in the receiver/drier as with R134a gas you dont use this method to check the gas level

24-11-2009, 08:43 PM	#30
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	what method can you use?

24-11-2009, 08:46 PM	#31
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	A/C pressure gauges and weight of gas in system during recover and charging

26-11-2009, 12:55 PM	#33
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	and i have one of those meters where LOL. ill sort it out when i get the new old engine haha. until then i have 20% duty cycle air con hooray. __________________ Worklog

12-03-2010, 02:23 PM	#34
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	How much do they cost? New aircon for BA astina = ? Second hand aircon for BA astina = ? My aircon really stinks. Spraying it doesnt work. I guess the only way is to change the aircon? __________________ hmmm

13-03-2010, 01:24 AM	#35
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	i'd check the intake for rotten leaves etc that have fallen through and gotten stuck down there. otherwise cleaning companies can normally remove ANYTHING __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

13-03-2010, 08:47 AM	#36
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	Flushing it will remove rotten leaves or etc as well? __________________ hmmm

13-03-2010, 05:54 PM	#37
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	aircon will be around $1100... i got it done in January (new compressor, rec/drier and a few o rings. helpful guy with a 24 month garentee... that has nothing to do with the smell afaik. its a sealed system (sorta like a HWS at your house, it doesnt actually contact the chemicals/gas inside...) so its a fan problem - id have to imagine that it would smell with the fan on? if not perhaps theres an airfilter for teh air going into the aircon system... maybe worth a look? __________________ Worklog

13-03-2010, 07:05 PM	#38
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	Tried only with the fan, smells a lil. If the A/C switch is on then the smell is a lot stronger. This smell doesnt occur everytime, sometimes it has no smell at all but sometimes the smell is strong. When the smell is strong, I'll switch off the A/C switch for a few minutes with only the fan on then turn the A/C on and this works. But it doesnt work all the time tho. __________________ hmmm

13-03-2010, 09:06 PM	#40
miah87 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flemington Car: R33 sedan Posts: 212 View Photos By: miah87	thx cosmo, I'll try that tomorrow. Hope this works... __________________ hmmm