SP20 Body differences compared to the 1.8

Pettos · 18-03-2009, 12:20 AM

Hey dudes,

Just wondering, are there major differences in the shape of the SP20 body? example;

Front bar - are the head lights and grill different shapes to the 1.8? or would it fit off with the old and in with the new?

I'm a noob... I know... but bare with me.

Cheers.

Pete

mickey_323 · 18-03-2009, 01:37 AM

yea bumper should fit... its the pre-facelift models that need the headlight and hood changed. Heaps of people have done the conversion, i've read about it.

Check out the American forums.. they have more info on it because those bumpers are more common over there. just run a search on their forums. google should help

mickey_323 · 18-03-2009, 01:43 AM

it would look good, buy some spot lights to some mesh to fill in the grill. and it would look sweet...

i was thinking about cutting the bumper to fit my pre-facelift 323... but it would be too hard and expensive

project.r.racing · 18-03-2009, 07:06 AM

front bumper and front wheel arch plastic guards are the only replacement part on the sp20.

the side skirts, rear lip and wing are all simple bolt on items.

marcs_sp20 · 18-03-2009, 07:39 AM

you will also need an SP20 grille as they are different to the 1.8l's. Oh and something random, SP20 astina also have the antenna at the rear of the car, not on the pillar...

project.r.racing · 18-03-2009, 08:07 AM

oh if you gotta change the grill, get a hot one like marcs.

marcs_sp20 · 18-03-2009, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by project.r.racing

oh if you gotta change the grill, get a hot one like marcs.

Amen to that brother!

Oh should also mention that headlights are different aswell, just in design, they have the low & high beams seperately, whereas the 1.8L's are all in one. Maybe get some blacked out ones like chicaboo use to have on his SP18, just no pics unfortunately. I made up a thread about 18mths ago, maybe do a search for black headlights...

Edit: Here is the Link...

Cheers
Marc

bourbon · 18-03-2009, 08:44 AM

also their is seperate listing for the SP20 guards to a 1.8L...the bar reinforcement is different as well...

marcs_sp20 · 18-03-2009, 09:06 AM

different guards??? I cant see why they'd be different, cause gav could swap back without any dramas...

bourbon · 18-03-2009, 09:22 AM

maybe holes in the rear of the guard for side skirts that the 1.8 dont have?

marcs_sp20 · 18-03-2009, 09:27 AM

how do you explain that when KQ-LASR has skirts on his... im certain the same holes are used...

bourbon · 18-03-2009, 09:56 AM

lasers are different

...im not sure marc...all i know is ive got a seperate listing on the SP20 from all my suppliers...and the SP20 guards are genuine only...compared to the 1.8...

Orion · 18-03-2009, 10:12 AM

If you are looking for SP20 guards then I know someone who has a set. Surprised he hasn't piped up about them yet

chicaboo · 18-03-2009, 10:58 AM

I've got SP20:
bumper
foglights/brackets
upper grill
lower grill
guard liners (plastic liners inside the wheel arch)
SP20 stickers

The sideskirts and rear lip are best to be just eurethaned on, and not drilled/bolted.

Gav.

Pettos · 18-03-2009, 12:48 PM

Thanks for your replies guys.

Just spotted a sp20 bumper on ebay for cheap... So tempting, so I'd have to replace side front quarter panels too? The SP20 wheel arches flair more than the 1.8, don't they? Or am I on drugs?

marcs_sp20 · 18-03-2009, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pettos

Thanks for your replies guys.

Just spotted a sp20 bumper on ebay for cheap... So tempting, so I'd have to replace side front quarter panels too? The SP20 wheel arches flair more than the 1.8, don't they? Or am I on drugs?

Thee guards are the same, just cant understand why they should be different, and yes you're on drugs

chicaboo · 18-03-2009, 01:51 PM

Yeah, as Marc said, you're on drugs. The only difference in the SP20 guards is a hole for mounting the sideskirts (as Bourbon has already pointed out). And since the best way to mount the sideskirt is just to glue them on with eurethane, you won't be missing that particular hole. But since the bumper sits lower and further away, the guard liners, do not sit properly and leave a 2" gap here and there.

Gav.

Pettos · 18-03-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicaboo

But since the bumper sits lower and further away, the guard liners, do not sit properly and leave a 2" gap here and there.

So how do we overcome that problem?

project.r.racing · 18-03-2009, 09:12 PM

use sp20 guard liners as post above

marcs_sp20 · 18-03-2009, 09:15 PM

I reckon buy all Gav's stuff (as its already in your car colour), get Kqlasr's skirts and try and find an SP20 rear lip ( I saw one on ebay a couple weeks ago, I think it may be 32C's off this forum) and your set!

Then sit back and laugh at how much it would cost to get it all brand new from mazda, you'll be pleasantly shocked...

Cheers
Marc

18-03-2009, 12:20 AM	#1
Pettos AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney Car: 323 Astina '03 Posts: 263	SP20 Body differences compared to the 1.8 Hey dudes, Just wondering, are there major differences in the shape of the SP20 body? example; Front bar - are the head lights and grill different shapes to the 1.8? or would it fit off with the old and in with the new? I'm a noob... I know... but bare with me. Cheers. Pete __________________

18-03-2009, 07:39 AM	#5
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	you will also need an SP20 grille as they are different to the 1.8l's. Oh and something random, SP20 astina also have the antenna at the rear of the car, not on the pillar... __________________

18-03-2009, 08:44 AM	#8
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	also their is seperate listing for the SP20 guards to a 1.8L...the bar reinforcement is different as well... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

18-03-2009, 09:06 AM	#9
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	different guards??? I cant see why they'd be different, cause gav could swap back without any dramas... __________________

18-03-2009, 09:22 AM	#10
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	maybe holes in the rear of the guard for side skirts that the 1.8 dont have? __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

18-03-2009, 01:37 AM	#2
mickey_323 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.A Car: protege 323 Posts: 128	yea bumper should fit... its the pre-facelift models that need the headlight and hood changed. Heaps of people have done the conversion, i've read about it. Check out the American forums.. they have more info on it because those bumpers are more common over there. just run a search on their forums. google should help

18-03-2009, 01:43 AM	#3
mickey_323 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.A Car: protege 323 Posts: 128	it would look good, buy some spot lights to some mesh to fill in the grill. and it would look sweet... i was thinking about cutting the bumper to fit my pre-facelift 323... but it would be too hard and expensive

18-03-2009, 07:06 AM	#4
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	front bumper and front wheel arch plastic guards are the only replacement part on the sp20. the side skirts, rear lip and wing are all simple bolt on items.

18-03-2009, 08:07 AM	#6
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	oh if you gotta change the grill, get a hot one like marcs.

18-03-2009, 09:27 AM	#11
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	how do you explain that when KQ-LASR has skirts on his... im certain the same holes are used... __________________

18-03-2009, 09:56 AM	#12
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	lasers are different ...im not sure marc...all i know is ive got a seperate listing on the SP20 from all my suppliers...and the SP20 guards are genuine only...compared to the 1.8... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

18-03-2009, 10:12 AM	#13
Orion SP20 Member! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Car: Mazda SP20 sedan Posts: 1,769 View Photos By: Orion	If you are looking for SP20 guards then I know someone who has a set. Surprised he hasn't piped up about them yet

18-03-2009, 10:58 AM	#14
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	I've got SP20: bumper foglights/brackets upper grill lower grill guard liners (plastic liners inside the wheel arch) SP20 stickers The sideskirts and rear lip are best to be just eurethaned on, and not drilled/bolted. Gav.

18-03-2009, 12:48 PM	#15
Pettos AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney Car: 323 Astina '03 Posts: 263	Thanks for your replies guys. Just spotted a sp20 bumper on ebay for cheap... So tempting, so I'd have to replace side front quarter panels too? The SP20 wheel arches flair more than the 1.8, don't they? Or am I on drugs? __________________

18-03-2009, 01:51 PM	#17
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	Yeah, as Marc said, you're on drugs. The only difference in the SP20 guards is a hole for mounting the sideskirts (as Bourbon has already pointed out). And since the best way to mount the sideskirt is just to glue them on with eurethane, you won't be missing that particular hole. But since the bumper sits lower and further away, the guard liners, do not sit properly and leave a 2" gap here and there. Gav.

18-03-2009, 09:12 PM	#19
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	use sp20 guard liners as post above

18-03-2009, 09:15 PM	#20
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	I reckon buy all Gav's stuff (as its already in your car colour), get Kqlasr's skirts and try and find an SP20 rear lip ( I saw one on ebay a couple weeks ago, I think it may be 32C's off this forum) and your set! Then sit back and laugh at how much it would cost to get it all brand new from mazda, you'll be pleasantly shocked... Cheers Marc __________________

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