F_ _k_n pigs - Defects

[ezin]

If the car came from the factory with 16's then you can put on 17's! so Sp 20 owners can put 17's on! all the other astinas cant! U can put 17's on a standard astina but u wont get insurance! Its a simple rule, 1 inch bigger in diameter and 1 inch bigger in width than the factory spec! if u see any others then they probably dont have insurance unless its a club car!

[mrpayner]

not sure about the 1 inch bigger in diameter thing mate.. I can still insure a 17x6½" rim on mine.. Just can't do 17x7" with everyday insurers like NRMA & RACV

AP

[ezin]

If u can u can! if ur insurance company lets u then why not! i supose u can insure anything as long as u have the money!

[wiredone]

well that sucks royally...

i drive around every day with a turbo'd SP20 in mosman, balgowlah, manly and brookvale... never been asked... even at RBT's...lol i actually had a manly cop pull me up and say how nice my front mount looked and asked me how it went...

but as soon as you start driving out west, you gotta be realy careful...

cops hunt you out there.... we were driving back from liverpool on friday night in pack form on the m4 and cops played tag team with us the whole way... one cop would follow us for a couple of suburbs then pull of and a new station would take the position... absolute crap... more likely to do something wrong when your etching about the cop tail gating you at 110 =(

just my 2c and story...lol

[Smikey]

MrPayner, i hope not either, but i was talkin to the NRMA folks on the phone about how big my wheels were, and went to the garage to check it up, told the girl and she paused a bit (to check it up)? and said it was just ok, so... my heart is running as per normal again and for now i shall leave it at that.

[Remi]

NRMA wont insure my car now that it has 17' wheels on it. Its pretty crap but thats life i guess.

[KittyKatSmack]

The only thing that worries me is that if I have my car insured, and put bigger wheels on it....

What if the worst thing happens and you are in an accident?

They check your car, and if you have illegal mods, the insurance company won't cover you even if the accident wasn't your fault!

That will apply to third party excess too!!!!

So I would be checking with the insurance company BEFORE I put anything remotely dodgy on my car.

If you know what you are doing to your car is illegal, and you get defected for it... then that is the price you pay, you can't whinge, especially if you KNEW it was illegal.......

Basically, I wouldn't want to have an accident and not be covered....
that is a seperate issue to being defected.

Defected is something you live with if you mod your car.
Don't cry about it, either mod within the limits or live with defect notices.
C'est la vie.

8)

[BigBoyLemonade]

Get Just cars 3rd party! thats the best!

Unlimited mods as long they are legal

[KittyKatSmack]

Didn't know that.....

Excellent stuff!!!

Does that cover the wheels question I have asked in the other thread too though?

ie/ bigger wheels than the 1" rule?

Am glad you know your **** Tony!!!!

[wiredone]

yeah third party comprehensive just covers anything you can do to someone else...

still means if you crash you pay, but at the end of the day your covered for that new GTR, or ferrari you just rear ended....

have you tried just cars?

mines $2600 compo with P's turbo conversion including front mount etc., $2500 fo weels covered, $3500 system covered and unlimited mods left

my excess is $600

i mean seeing noone else will insure me it ain't bad... cheaper than my aami covered when the car was stock...

[dfvadr]

when i took mine to nrma with 18's they told me no way they would touch it
after telling the guy to get out his tape messure an wake up to him self because the rolling diamater off 16's with 50 series tyres are only 3mm different to the 18's with 35 series an the 16's r 6.5 the 18's r 7.5 that is acceptable by the rta he went all dry in the throat spoke to sum boss inside then they insured me
think its called baffled with bull**** works for me :lol:

[KittyKatSmack]

I am never going to whinge about paying $660 a year for my insurance again....

not when you lot pay thousands......... :shock:

*hands start to shake*

me part with my money like that to insurance sharks?
Bah Humbug!

[divadiow]

it seems a bit anal to me that modded cars can be pulled over and ordered to be inspected by the state (for safety reasons?) when most states in Australia don't require annual checks on all vehicles, so cars could go for many years with one owner and only require inspection when it comes to selling the vehicle (!)

that's what I found absurd when I came to buy a car after learning to drive out there

[arden]

Rod,
i used to have my car insured through NRMA
when i told them about my new 17x7 . they said they couldnt insure it, coz for sp20's the maximum they could do is 6.5" wide.
So i was like WTF, i want to talk to a supervisor.
They got one to talk to me, so i told them about the rta rule being able to go 1" wider, and she simply said, we understand that, but we at nrma have strict guidelines on what we insure and that max that they could allow is 6.5.

So i cancelled my policy right there and then, Rang up GIO, they were really cool.
said they could insure me...and allow any mods as long as its legal and roadworthy and not engine related.

Im a happy camper now, as my premium were $150 cheaper ..|..

[platypus]

but there is explanations for some of the stuff, .... and remember not everything is done by competent people... the thing (to my knowledge) with wheels was that the rolling diameter has a leeway +/-25mm and the same leeway is given for wheel widths... but with a minimum profile depth of 25mm

when i was with AAMI they said any size was fine, as long as the wheel was not wider than the width of the car body (ie no protrusion)

if your badly done turbo blows up (for eg), then who is to blame for the mess you might spray... the only real reason i would get a turbo engineered, is that i could not be stuffed taking it off again every pink slip time!!

[wiredone]

here here.....

luckily i have aaround a year to get it engineered cause mines still new.... even though the turbo is there

either that or the cops will get me first...

<Doug's Final Thought>

there is legitimate reasons for nearly (and i mean nearly) every defectable item, whether it is because your at risk of hurting the environment, the ears of granmas sleeping at night or killing your girlfriend in an accident because that new strut brace altered the cars crush design...

all of these reasons are good enough in theory but when actually put into practice properly there is nothing to worry about. Simply put, Your life can't be replaced, so while bolting that garret T04/T05 on, running 4bar of boost through the front wheels with no lsd, stop to think about how the hell your going to take those corners near your house in the wet, while keeping it on the road...

<\Doug's final thought>

[platypus]

hehe, yeah no good spinning the steering wheels... damn FWD
mates piazza comes on boost in corners... small turbo, but causes spin if your in wet with flat to the floor!!!

[TURBO MAZDA]

Hey Rupewrecht couldn't help noticing that nice yellow sticker on ya pic.

What did they get ya for ????
Do you need to get the car enginered ????

[Rupewrecht]

yeah, am in the process of engineering it at the moment.

they got me for:

Foot Pedals (complete crap)
Non Padded Steering Wheel Centre (more crap)
BOV (to be expected)
Tyre Load Rating (under the correct weight - 450kg instead of 500kg+, but i knew that)
Modified Motor (that's a laugh)

so nothing big apart from the motor one really

just means i've got to return it to TX3 turbo specs for a while to pass the emissions test as they sent me and EPA notice in the mail soon after *grumble* and i'm not paying $3500 to get my car passed byt the EPA with the Wolf ECU...

no problems with the engineer - suspension is fine, brakes are fine, fmic is fine, but the boost gauge (which i've molded in) will have to be moved, but i'll just get a standard dash as a temporary thing

wrong place at the wrong time in the wrong car - i swear on pr1mo''s fuzzy hair that i wasn't doing anything illegal at the time :lol:

[Cosmo Dude]

Wrong place??? I was only doing 30-40 due to the perving factor, their is no other reason to drive down Jacka Blvd in summer