Manual Conversion

MMM323 · 09-12-2005, 06:19 PM

Heya Guys,

Im considering "maybe" converting my auto SP20 to a manual. I was wondering what will be an estimate on costs to get it done? Bear in mind I wont be doing any of it myself. Also how long would someone need my car for to get it done?
I know Chicaboo has already done this so I await his answers and those others who have some knowledge on this topic.

Cheers Colin.

Cosmo Dude · 09-12-2005, 07:23 PM

The Chicaboo method would be the best option.
Buy a manual SP20 and swap all your good stuff across before selling the auto SP20. With the amount of ECU control the auto setup has it's just too much stuffing around.

MMM323 · 09-12-2005, 07:33 PM

Hmmm. Im just not prepared to buy a manual and swap everything over. too much trouble for me personally. so this isnt an option.

chicaboo · 09-12-2005, 07:49 PM

Hey dude,

Yes I ended up swapping the car and put the mods across, that was enough of a pain, but now I know the differences of the auto and manual, it was definately the easier option. I haven't been having a great time with my manual, the clutch is rooted and my drivers door needs adjustment, sounds easy, but turns out nothing is...
Anyhow, I don't get the smile out of my mildly modded manual that I did from my gay auto. And I have quite a bit of work to do on the car to get the same feeling I once did. As slow as the auto was, it was a smoother more refined car (heavier in the nose you see)...
If you want, I have a very rare Ford/Mazda automatic shop manual that I could sell you for $15. It goes through the gearbox assembly and removal for the purpose of maintenance, etc... But if you read my rantings from a few months ago, you'll also know that I found the SP23 auto gears fit your gearbox! This would've been a much nicer mod for my 1.8 than the whole car swap...

Cheers,
Gav.

dfvadr · 09-12-2005, 08:39 PM

man if you think swapping so accesory's over is a hassle , wait till you try the conversion , i no you said you wont do it but think off the cost you will encounter clutch $250, gearbox thousands pedal master cylinder slave cylinder probly different engine mounts at the gearbox end im not sure the computer is the same im sure the labour is going to be at least what the parts cost on top [oh yer is the cranksharft the same for the input sharft in an auto /manual ]
there is a thread in the 4sales off some-one crying to get an auto , so i would find a good manual an sell them yours for the same money , good luck

twilightprotege · 12-12-2005, 08:34 AM

another vote for buying a good manual sp20 and swapping stuff over then selling the auto

Rupewrecht · 12-12-2005, 10:17 AM

Just doing a manual to manual conversion is painful enough with a Mazda. I'm still in the process of doing one.

Realistically, your best bet is take out a loan, buy a manual, transfer your stuff across and then sell the auto (as Gav did). Or even finding a nice manual and trading yours in. the $ cost might be better than the hassle of doing all that

MMM323 · 12-12-2005, 03:09 PM

Thanks guys. Ive now come to the conclusion that its just going to be too costly and too much of a hassle to go ahead with. Looks like ill keep me car do a few other mods then when im ready to upgrade I will buy a manual. That seems like the most logical thing to do.

Colin.

dfvadr · 12-12-2005, 08:12 PM

thats wise good luck

09-12-2005, 06:19 PM	#1
MMM323 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 40	Manual Conversion Heya Guys, Im considering "maybe" converting my auto SP20 to a manual. I was wondering what will be an estimate on costs to get it done? Bear in mind I wont be doing any of it myself. Also how long would someone need my car for to get it done? I know Chicaboo has already done this so I await his answers and those others who have some knowledge on this topic. Cheers Colin. __________________ Black 02 Sp20.17inch rims.Kings Super Lows 5%tint.Shaved side mouldings Completely Debadged and all stickers removed Hollandia 700 Sunroof.Kenwood MP3 Player Kenwood 7inch monitor.Stubby Antenna Upgraded Tail lights.Phillips Crystal Vision Bulbs to Parkers,Low Beam & High Beam.Clear indicators Slimline PS2 custom installed in glovebox B1 blue interior light B1 VIP Moody Interior light(purple) Brake Calipers painted silver Ferodo Excel Rear pads EBC Greenstuff Front Pads

09-12-2005, 07:23 PM	#2
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	The Chicaboo method would be the best option. Buy a manual SP20 and swap all your good stuff across before selling the auto SP20. With the amount of ECU control the auto setup has it's just too much stuffing around. __________________ My 'stina Hatch

09-12-2005, 07:33 PM	#3
MMM323 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 40	Hmmm. Im just not prepared to buy a manual and swap everything over. too much trouble for me personally. so this isnt an option. __________________ Black 02 Sp20.17inch rims.Kings Super Lows 5%tint.Shaved side mouldings Completely Debadged and all stickers removed Hollandia 700 Sunroof.Kenwood MP3 Player Kenwood 7inch monitor.Stubby Antenna Upgraded Tail lights.Phillips Crystal Vision Bulbs to Parkers,Low Beam & High Beam.Clear indicators Slimline PS2 custom installed in glovebox B1 blue interior light B1 VIP Moody Interior light(purple) Brake Calipers painted silver Ferodo Excel Rear pads EBC Greenstuff Front Pads

09-12-2005, 08:39 PM	#5
dfvadr Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Queensland Car: ss , sp20 , 94ba Posts: 1,708 View Photos By: dfvadr	man if you think swapping so accesory's over is a hassle , wait till you try the conversion , i no you said you wont do it but think off the cost you will encounter clutch $250, gearbox thousands pedal master cylinder slave cylinder probly different engine mounts at the gearbox end im not sure the computer is the same im sure the labour is going to be at least what the parts cost on top [oh yer is the cranksharft the same for the input sharft in an auto /manual ] there is a thread in the 4sales off some-one crying to get an auto , so i would find a good manual an sell them yours for the same money , good luck __________________ 2001 SP20 Mazda Astina Turbo - t28b/b turbo teflon coated forge pistons 20thou o/size , billet rods , whole motor fully balanced - custom body kit - 18"ame's - custom interior - kenwood head unit , pioneer speakers driven by 800 watt amp , kicker subs driven by 1000 watt amps each sub [135.2db at supernats], two 1th caps 4 tv screens dvd player - xbox - airbag suspension with gas strut towers - custom plates an airbrushing on bonnet

12-12-2005, 10:17 AM	#7
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Just doing a manual to manual conversion is painful enough with a Mazda. I'm still in the process of doing one. Realistically, your best bet is take out a loan, buy a manual, transfer your stuff across and then sell the auto (as Gav did). Or even finding a nice manual and trading yours in. the $ cost might be better than the hassle of doing all that __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

09-12-2005, 07:49 PM	#4
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	Hey dude, Yes I ended up swapping the car and put the mods across, that was enough of a pain, but now I know the differences of the auto and manual, it was definately the easier option. I haven't been having a great time with my manual, the clutch is rooted and my drivers door needs adjustment, sounds easy, but turns out nothing is... Anyhow, I don't get the smile out of my mildly modded manual that I did from my gay auto. And I have quite a bit of work to do on the car to get the same feeling I once did. As slow as the auto was, it was a smoother more refined car (heavier in the nose you see)... If you want, I have a very rare Ford/Mazda automatic shop manual that I could sell you for $15. It goes through the gearbox assembly and removal for the purpose of maintenance, etc... But if you read my rantings from a few months ago, you'll also know that I found the SP23 auto gears fit your gearbox! This would've been a much nicer mod for my 1.8 than the whole car swap... Cheers, Gav.

12-12-2005, 08:34 AM	#6
twilightprotege Driving a faster car now! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Work, always at bloody work... Car: Lotus ....... . Posts: 5,217 View Photos By: twilightprotege	another vote for buying a good manual sp20 and swapping stuff over then selling the auto

12-12-2005, 03:09 PM	#8
MMM323 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 40	Thanks guys. Ive now come to the conclusion that its just going to be too costly and too much of a hassle to go ahead with. Looks like ill keep me car do a few other mods then when im ready to upgrade I will buy a manual. That seems like the most logical thing to do. Colin. __________________ Black 02 Sp20.17inch rims.Kings Super Lows 5%tint.Shaved side mouldings Completely Debadged and all stickers removed Hollandia 700 Sunroof.Kenwood MP3 Player Kenwood 7inch monitor.Stubby Antenna Upgraded Tail lights.Phillips Crystal Vision Bulbs to Parkers,Low Beam & High Beam.Clear indicators Slimline PS2 custom installed in glovebox B1 blue interior light B1 VIP Moody Interior light(purple) Brake Calipers painted silver Ferodo Excel Rear pads EBC Greenstuff Front Pads

12-12-2005, 08:12 PM	#9
dfvadr Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Queensland Car: ss , sp20 , 94ba Posts: 1,708 View Photos By: dfvadr	thats wise good luck __________________ 2001 SP20 Mazda Astina Turbo - t28b/b turbo teflon coated forge pistons 20thou o/size , billet rods , whole motor fully balanced - custom body kit - 18"ame's - custom interior - kenwood head unit , pioneer speakers driven by 800 watt amp , kicker subs driven by 1000 watt amps each sub [135.2db at supernats], two 1th caps 4 tv screens dvd player - xbox - airbag suspension with gas strut towers - custom plates an airbrushing on bonnet

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