a little more go

[mcwilly]

my mate just recently bout a vs ute (manual), i was just wondering wat else can be done to my car to give it a little more go, all my mates under estimate the astina.
i have:
exhaust
modified air box
and timing advanced 5 degrees

[mazdamanik]

.....Buy a new motor.....preferably with a turbo

[mcwilly]

thats a good option but im lookin at fairly cheap sorta mods wid out havin to change motor or get turbo because i dont have that sorta money, just a bit more to instead of bein next to or just back a bit to be edging forward and make them start thinkin ok little 1.8 astinas go alright

[chicaboo]

The money you were looking to spend on the 19s would easily take a huge chunk out of a BPT transplant costs...

[mazdamanik]

....dude u not gunna beat a commodore in a 1.8.....unless u got forced induction or spend alot of money...if u want a chea way sell it and get a VL

[chicaboo]

I beg to differ! Ask Nate since he was there...

[mazdamanik]

....you have beaten one?

[mcwilly]

ive beatin auto commodores b4 (v6) and kept up wid my mates el falcon but this one is manual so im guessin it will go harder. i just wanted a bi more if there was a few more simple mods available if not ill have to improve my launches and gear changes

[mazdamanik]

i stand corrected i woulda thought u wouldnt stand a chance.....the cheapest way would be to practice ur launch and gear changes

[chicaboo]

Yeah I've raced an auto VP S, and after he called it, I had to make up 1/2 a car length, which I did quite easily, but were basically neck and neck after that. So In my books a car with an engine more than 2X as mine (no matter how unrefined) that I can ever so slowly inch past, is pretty embaressing to the Commodore owner... And I only have 75kW ATW, not 120kW+ ATW like he did...

[mcwilly]

i only have 92kw atf maybe a bit more wid the few little accresories and my mates el has 156kw atf so i was happy especially seeing he got the jump and i was only at his door

[mazdamanik]

fair enough then...spose there is a weight advantage, my bad....now i wish i had the DOHc not the SOHC

[Cosmo Dude]

Headers, cams, etc...
Make sure when you put headers on that the exit pipe is same size or slightly larger than your exhaust and your cat converter matches your headers.

[chicaboo]

The VPs were not that heavy, still under or around 1500kg from memory, so they were one of the quicker V6s despite having a little less power than the later models... Certainly not so heavy that an extra 30%+ more power couldn't overcome, Boo I say!

[89sp1.8]

yeah ive raced 2 vp's kept neck and neck with them both,if there stock autos its pretty even,unless ur on the highway.its pretty even off the line though.(dohc 1.8)

[mazdamanik]

these things faster than i thought

[89sp1.8]

yeah but only till bout 4th gear then they will start pullin away,but still they give u a bit of respect after.

[89sp1.8]

the other week i raced a liberty prob bout 92-93 or sumthin,beat it 3 times,only just though.then he pulls up and says "wat u got running under that thing?"i said nuthin,stock mate just exhaust atm.i said wat bout u he said"oh....not too much,we definatly underestimated u"

[89sp1.8]

so i was pretty happy i got a bit of respect.

[chicaboo]

Originally Posted by 89sp1.8

yeah but only till bout 4th gear then they will start pullin away,but still they give u a bit of respect after.

I was fiendishly naughty racing this VP I did, and let me say at no time did he outperform my car, no matter what gear either of us was in!