MSF cams v fsde cams

luk3333 · 14-10-2012, 11:11 PM

So while looking on protegefaq at the cam specs i noticed that the MSF intake cam ( which is the same as the FSDE(Aus) intake cam) has the same duration and lift as its corresponding exhaust cam, whereas the on the FSDE(aus) the exhaust cam has a shorter duration and lift compared to its intake. So, does the MSF FSZE just use two intake cams and tweak the timing to achieve its specifications? If so, then by using two FSDE(aus) intake cams set correctly you can get the same results as using the MSF cams?

luk3333 · 14-10-2012, 11:34 PM

Im waiting for your 2c, Edwin :P

Ice88 · 14-10-2012, 11:39 PM

MSP = Mazdaspeed Protege = Turbo

MSF = Mazdaspeed Familia = NA = FS-ZE

luk3333 · 14-10-2012, 11:43 PM

Corrected

Ice88 · 15-10-2012, 12:10 AM

All good. Just confusing.

To answer your question yes you can repin them. Though IIRC they don't end up exactly the same

luk3333 · 15-10-2012, 12:12 AM

Cheers

rodhog · 15-10-2012, 01:09 AM

IT has been done = repined intake or exhaust cams and swapped but normally with addition of adjustable cam sprockets so you can dail them in right using a dail gauge.

TheMAN · 15-10-2012, 07:23 AM

the factory MSF exhaust cam is a repinned intake cam

luk3333 · 15-10-2012, 07:56 PM

Do you how much does it cost to have one repinned?

luk3333 · 15-10-2012, 08:34 PM

Also, are BP cam gears the same as FS/FP cam gears? There's a set on ebay that are advertised as "New MAZDA Miata/MX5/Protege/Escort 1.6L/1.8L cam gears cam pulley x 2pcs"..

TheMAN · 15-10-2012, 08:53 PM

no
even if the sizes are the same, the engine won't run because of the sensor pick up points

luk3333 · 15-10-2012, 08:55 PM

ahk, thats why i asked

14-10-2012, 11:11 PM	#1
luk3333 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Central Coast Car: Mazda 323 Astina '02 Posts: 220 View Photos By: luk3333	MSF cams v fsde cams So while looking on protegefaq at the cam specs i noticed that the MSF intake cam ( which is the same as the FSDE(Aus) intake cam) has the same duration and lift as its corresponding exhaust cam, whereas the on the FSDE(aus) the exhaust cam has a shorter duration and lift compared to its intake. So, does the MSF FSZE just use two intake cams and tweak the timing to achieve its specifications? If so, then by using two FSDE(aus) intake cams set correctly you can get the same results as using the MSF cams? Last edited by luk3333; 14-10-2012 at 11:55 PM.

14-10-2012, 11:39 PM	#3
Ice88 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Auchenflower, Brisbane Car: Blue SP20 Posts: 2,782	MSP = Mazdaspeed Protege = Turbo MSF = Mazdaspeed Familia = NA = FS-ZE __________________

14-10-2012, 11:43 PM	#4
luk3333 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Central Coast Car: Mazda 323 Astina '02 Posts: 220 View Photos By: luk3333	Corrected Last edited by luk3333; 14-10-2012 at 11:47 PM.

15-10-2012, 12:10 AM	#5
Ice88 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Auchenflower, Brisbane Car: Blue SP20 Posts: 2,782	All good. Just confusing. To answer your question yes you can repin them. Though IIRC they don't end up exactly the same __________________

15-10-2012, 07:23 AM	#8
TheMAN Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Car: . Posts: 2,623	the factory MSF exhaust cam is a repinned intake cam __________________ Protege FAQ, the best 323/Protege/Mazda3 resource enjoyed worldwide for 10 years

14-10-2012, 11:34 PM	#2
luk3333 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Central Coast Car: Mazda 323 Astina '02 Posts: 220 View Photos By: luk3333	Im waiting for your 2c, Edwin :P

15-10-2012, 12:12 AM	#6
luk3333 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Central Coast Car: Mazda 323 Astina '02 Posts: 220 View Photos By: luk3333	Cheers

15-10-2012, 01:09 AM	#7
rodhog Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Lakemba Car: mx-6 626 Gs300 Maz2 was 95 KF BA-HT Posts: 2,024 View Photos By: rodhog	IT has been done = repined intake or exhaust cams and swapped but normally with addition of adjustable cam sprockets so you can dail them in right using a dail gauge.

15-10-2012, 07:56 PM	#9
luk3333 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Central Coast Car: Mazda 323 Astina '02 Posts: 220 View Photos By: luk3333	Do you how much does it cost to have one repinned?

15-10-2012, 08:34 PM	#10
luk3333 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Central Coast Car: Mazda 323 Astina '02 Posts: 220 View Photos By: luk3333	Also, are BP cam gears the same as FS/FP cam gears? There's a set on ebay that are advertised as "New MAZDA Miata/MX5/Protege/Escort 1.6L/1.8L cam gears cam pulley x 2pcs"..

15-10-2012, 08:53 PM	#11
TheMAN Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Car: . Posts: 2,623	no even if the sizes are the same, the engine won't run because of the sensor pick up points __________________ Protege FAQ, the best 323/Protege/Mazda3 resource enjoyed worldwide for 10 years

15-10-2012, 08:55 PM	#12
luk3333 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Central Coast Car: Mazda 323 Astina '02 Posts: 220 View Photos By: luk3333	ahk, thats why i asked