Bg astina coilovers

mcwilly · 04-08-2011, 04:45 PM

What companies make coilovers for the bg astina? I currently have dms but it's rather low and a little firm for my liking. I'd like something with independent height adjustment if possible

Rupewrecht · 04-08-2011, 04:59 PM

Why not try some softer/longer springs? Cheaper than new coilovers.

mcwilly · 04-08-2011, 07:51 PM

I don't think it's gonna do what I want it to. I'd also be selling these to pay for my new ones

derb · 04-08-2011, 10:15 PM

BC Racing give you 2 choices. Check on the justjap site.

mcwilly · 05-08-2011, 06:30 AM

Awesome. Not that expensive either. Only prob is they say gives super low ride height I don't want it slammed

derb · 05-08-2011, 08:48 AM

I've got a set of the BR coilovers in my BG and you can adjust the height. I've only dropped mine down to about the legal limit of 100mm, but when I put them on the car it looked like factory ride height until I dropped them. So don't worry about slamming the car or anything as they are height adjustable.

Clean_Cookie · 05-08-2011, 09:37 AM

Apparently height adjustable coilovers aren't legal unless welded to the correct height... Is that at all true?

Mad Mat · 05-08-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tc3_racer_001

Apparently height adjustable coilovers aren't legal unless welded to the correct height... Is that at all true?

wtf???? thats bull..

my 2 cents

derb · 05-08-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad Mat

wtf???? thats bull..

my 2 cents

Yeh sounds like crap as you can easily adjust most coilovers to sit the car higher than standard. It's only illegal once you drop past 100mm of ground clearance or don't have equipment that meets ADR standards.

Astro Boy · 05-08-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mcwilly

I don't think it's gonna do what I want it to. I'd also be selling these to pay for my new ones

Huh? What are you trying to do, and why won't the best coilovers you'll get for a BG do it???

Which model DMS are they, 40mm, 50mm?

mcwilly · 05-08-2011, 04:21 PM

The 50mm I'm pretty sure. I got the normal spring rates etc but it rides hard and the rear coil overs are fairly short so the highest it can go is tucking Tyre on a 17. And height adjustment is combined with the spring adjustment

mcwilly · 05-08-2011, 04:22 PM

I asked numerous times for astina ones, could these be familia ones

derb · 05-08-2011, 04:38 PM

BG Astinas have a different front strut top bolt pattern compared to the Familias and 323 sedans. So unless you got custom strut tops, they aren't meant for BG Astina. Also, the spring rates in my BRs are 6kg front and 4kg rear, which is pretty much perfect for a daily driven track special.

Astro Boy · 05-08-2011, 05:11 PM

DMS don't come with strut tops so it could be either...

Did you buy them new or second hand? Have they got a combined bump/rebound adjuster, or separate bump/rebound adjustment?

The beauty you've got with DMS is that they're made here, and they're fully customisable, as well as being a genuine competition shock.... If they're not allowing enough ride height, rather than resort to cheap crappy shyte off fleebay, just get new strut bodies or inserts made up, rather than replace everything you've got.

project.r.racing · 06-08-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tc3_racer_001

Apparently height adjustable coilovers aren't legal unless welded to the correct height... Is that at all true?

yes and no.

height adjustable is fine, but the adjustment must not allow the car to go under the 100mm minimum allowable clearance.

so JIC, TEIN etc adjust at the spring perch and have a lip that prevents the adjustment at some point.

other coilovers like BC, CUSCO etc do not have the lip as they adjust at the shock feet. and can be lowered to undefined height. hence the illegalness of it.

the way to make them legal, is to weld a lip in the shock the is the position where is make the height 100mm minimum. so it cannot be lowered more than that.

mcwilly · 06-08-2011, 10:17 AM

They just have one dial adjustment underneath the strut.
When compared to the standard struts the rears seemed extremely short (shorter the standard front strut)

mcwilly · 06-08-2011, 10:19 AM

They are awesomely built and good quality just to hard and low for my applications

04-08-2011, 04:45 PM	#1
mcwilly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: newcastle NSW Car: 323 astina Posts: 780 View Photos By: mcwilly	Bg astina coilovers What companies make coilovers for the bg astina? I currently have dms but it's rather low and a little firm for my liking. I'd like something with independent height adjustment if possible __________________ 340KW @ 24psi....................pb 13.3 @ 118mph (3rd gear issues + wheel spin)

04-08-2011, 04:59 PM	#2
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Why not try some softer/longer springs? Cheaper than new coilovers. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

04-08-2011, 07:51 PM	#3
mcwilly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: newcastle NSW Car: 323 astina Posts: 780 View Photos By: mcwilly	I don't think it's gonna do what I want it to. I'd also be selling these to pay for my new ones __________________ 340KW @ 24psi....................pb 13.3 @ 118mph (3rd gear issues + wheel spin)

05-08-2011, 06:30 AM	#5
mcwilly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: newcastle NSW Car: 323 astina Posts: 780 View Photos By: mcwilly	Awesome. Not that expensive either. Only prob is they say gives super low ride height I don't want it slammed __________________ 340KW @ 24psi....................pb 13.3 @ 118mph (3rd gear issues + wheel spin)

05-08-2011, 09:37 AM	#7
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	Apparently height adjustable coilovers aren't legal unless welded to the correct height... Is that at all true? __________________ Worklog

04-08-2011, 10:15 PM	#4
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	BC Racing give you 2 choices. Check on the justjap site.

05-08-2011, 08:48 AM	#6
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	I've got a set of the BR coilovers in my BG and you can adjust the height. I've only dropped mine down to about the legal limit of 100mm, but when I put them on the car it looked like factory ride height until I dropped them. So don't worry about slamming the car or anything as they are height adjustable.

05-08-2011, 04:21 PM	#11
mcwilly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: newcastle NSW Car: 323 astina Posts: 780 View Photos By: mcwilly	The 50mm I'm pretty sure. I got the normal spring rates etc but it rides hard and the rear coil overs are fairly short so the highest it can go is tucking Tyre on a 17. And height adjustment is combined with the spring adjustment __________________ 340KW @ 24psi....................pb 13.3 @ 118mph (3rd gear issues + wheel spin)

05-08-2011, 04:22 PM	#12
mcwilly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: newcastle NSW Car: 323 astina Posts: 780 View Photos By: mcwilly	I asked numerous times for astina ones, could these be familia ones __________________ 340KW @ 24psi....................pb 13.3 @ 118mph (3rd gear issues + wheel spin)

05-08-2011, 04:38 PM	#13
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	BG Astinas have a different front strut top bolt pattern compared to the Familias and 323 sedans. So unless you got custom strut tops, they aren't meant for BG Astina. Also, the spring rates in my BRs are 6kg front and 4kg rear, which is pretty much perfect for a daily driven track special.

05-08-2011, 05:11 PM	#14
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06-08-2011, 10:17 AM	#16
mcwilly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: newcastle NSW Car: 323 astina Posts: 780 View Photos By: mcwilly	They just have one dial adjustment underneath the strut. When compared to the standard struts the rears seemed extremely short (shorter the standard front strut) __________________ 340KW @ 24psi....................pb 13.3 @ 118mph (3rd gear issues + wheel spin)

06-08-2011, 10:19 AM	#17
mcwilly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: newcastle NSW Car: 323 astina Posts: 780 View Photos By: mcwilly	They are awesomely built and good quality just to hard and low for my applications __________________ 340KW @ 24psi....................pb 13.3 @ 118mph (3rd gear issues + wheel spin)