Radiator questions for 1995 Astina

John Doe · 09-03-2009, 07:36 PM

Gents.

The radiator in my 1995 Astina (1.8 litre, 4 cylinder, manual) has decided to kick the bucket.

I've been quoted $260 for an aftermarket radiator with a 26mm aluminimum core and 2 year warranty.

The only issue is that the parts shop doesn't seem to recognise my model. I keep telling them that it's the 1995 "BA" model but they insist that it's the "TR" model.

My questions:

a) Is there such a thing as a 1995 "TR" Astina and if so, is this my car?

b) Is $260 a reasonable price for what I've been quoted and if not, where should I be looking?

c) Can you recommend a reasonably priced workshop around the Strathfield / Parramatta area to do the work?

Many thanks.

Mad Mat · 09-03-2009, 07:41 PM

dude. i've paid 300 4 a radiator 4 my old bg and it was just a stock plastic top and bottom one so the price is good in my eyes.

DavoAust · 09-03-2009, 08:07 PM

that price seems really good. it maybe they've quoted you for the wrong model.

there is no TR astina or mazda as far as i know.

if you can get the radiator for that (and it's the right one) definately a good deal

Rupewrecht · 09-03-2009, 10:48 PM

Just sounds like the stock one at 26mm. Still a good price for one though.

I think they might be thinking you're saying 'maGNa' though - there was a TR Magna.

mike_d87 · 09-03-2009, 11:31 PM

The 3rd gen Holden Astra was the TR Series (1995-98). You need a radiator for a BA Astina.

bourbon · 10-03-2009, 08:47 AM

260 is a good price...the standard aftermarket replacement radiator for the BA 1.8L is a 26mm thickness...

John Doe · 10-03-2009, 11:05 AM

Thanks guys. You were spot on.

Due to the "me lub joo long tyme" Engrish of the parts lady, she understood "Astina" as "Astra".

The correct radiator is still 26mm with an aluminium core. The revised price though is $288, which still seems "velly cheep" based on your comments.

Now can someone recommend an honest and reasonably priced mechanic to install the radiator? Preferably around the Strathfield / Parramatta area.

Rupewrecht · 10-03-2009, 11:20 AM

They're not hard to install yourself, if you've got a flathead screwdriver and 12mm spanner/socket.

All you need to do is:
- remove radiator cover panel (black one above radiator)
- undo the hoses + coolant overflow
- undo fan plugs
- remove radiator
- swap fans over to the new radiator
- and a reverse of the rest of the previous instructions

John Doe · 10-03-2009, 11:37 AM

Thanks Rupewrecht. Unfortunately, I have neither the tools or skills for the job. I do however, have a case of beer for anyone who happens to have said tools or skills

Regarding the radiator, I also had a quick look on Ebay and came up with this:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FORD-LASER-KN...742.m153.l1262

It's only 16mm thick. However, it comes with a 2 year warranty and is only $154 brand new!!!

The site states that the radiator suits a 1989 - 1993 Mazda 323 / Astina. Presumably this is the BG model. Any idea whether it would fit into a BA Astina?

bourbon · 10-03-2009, 11:38 AM

take it to a radiator placeto get installed...where are you getting the radiator from?

bourbon · 10-03-2009, 11:40 AM

no a BG one wont fit a BA... BG has tanks top and bottom...BA has them on the sides...

OZY-323 · 10-03-2009, 11:42 AM

are auto radiators thicker than manual, or is that only because of the fluid cooling?

bourbon · 10-03-2009, 11:44 AM

most aftermarket radiators are just sold as an auto as they fit both...and yes they just give you that bit extra room for cooling...

DavoAust · 10-03-2009, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Doe

Thanks Rupewrecht. Unfortunately, I have neither the tools or skills for the job. I do however, have a case of beer for anyone who happens to have said tools or skills

Regarding the radiator, I also had a quick look on Ebay and came up with this:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FORD-LASER-KN...742.m153.l1262

It's only 16mm thick. However, it comes with a 2 year warranty and is only $154 brand new!!!

The site states that the radiator suits a 1989 - 1993 Mazda 323 / Astina. Presumably this is the BG model. Any idea whether it would fit into a BA Astina?

Won't fit, different tank design.

Its very easy to change the radiator over, if you provide the radiator a mechanic should be able to do the job in an hour

project.r.racing · 10-03-2009, 12:23 PM

KN/KQ Laser = BJ 323Astina/Protege (98-03)

KJ Laser = BA 323 Astina (94-98)

KF/KH Laser = BG 323 (Sedan only) (89-94)

That eBay listing is way off. A KN laser radiator that fits a 89-93/94 astina??? wtf???

bourbon · 10-03-2009, 01:16 PM

no where in that ebay listings does it say its a 89-94...

and kj radiator will not fit an astina...

the only astina radiator that is the same as the laser is the BJ 1 & 2 that fit the KN & KQ...

BG astina rad is 1 of its own & BA astina rad is 1 of its own...

LOOK ONLY FOR THE BA ASTINA RADIATOR!!! make sure its the 1.8 as well not the 2.0... doesnt matter if its auto or manual either...

Rupewrecht · 10-03-2009, 01:45 PM

Reco one - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RADIATOR-MAZD...mZ200317423382

John Doe · 11-03-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bourbon

where are you getting the radiator from?

Bourbon, the place is here:

http://www.oziespares.com.au/

The website looks cheap and nasty.

The phone lady speaks bad Engrish.

BUT, the prices are dirt cheap!

Dogo · 11-03-2009, 11:13 AM

looks like they're trying to piggy back off the name of
http://www.ozeparts.com.au/

( who aren't dodgy, and have the Radiator for $290 )

Why does one have "number of rows" = 1 and another = 2 ?
The price is significantly different.

bourbon · 11-03-2009, 11:22 AM

the rows is how thick it is...like single core, dual core, triple core... ozeparts radiators are the same ones we use...never heard of the other mob...theres lots of cheap and nasties radiators going around..but some good ones...

$288 is a good price...and average for them...if any of my suppliers had em i could of beaten it probs...but ohh well...

09-03-2009, 07:36 PM	#1
John Doe Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Car: Astina Posts: 34	Radiator questions for 1995 Astina Gents. The radiator in my 1995 Astina (1.8 litre, 4 cylinder, manual) has decided to kick the bucket. I've been quoted $260 for an aftermarket radiator with a 26mm aluminimum core and 2 year warranty. The only issue is that the parts shop doesn't seem to recognise my model. I keep telling them that it's the 1995 "BA" model but they insist that it's the "TR" model. My questions: a) Is there such a thing as a 1995 "TR" Astina and if so, is this my car? b) Is $260 a reasonable price for what I've been quoted and if not, where should I be looking? c) Can you recommend a reasonably priced workshop around the Strathfield / Parramatta area to do the work? Many thanks.

09-03-2009, 07:41 PM	#2
Mad Mat HONEYWELL REPRESENT Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Salisbury - Inner City Car: 1997 BA Hardtop - Had a 2003 BJii J48 Sport20, and 2x bg SOHC astina hatches Posts: 5,011 View Photos By: Mad Mat	dude. i've paid 300 4 a radiator 4 my old bg and it was just a stock plastic top and bottom one so the price is good in my eyes. __________________ PROJECT "Catalina" 1994 323 BG Hatch 2005-2007 Crashed into truck 1991 323 BG Hatch 2007-2008/9 SOLD 2003 BJ SP20 J48 Hatch 2008-2011 Regretfully SOLD 1997 BA I4 Sedan 2012-CURRENT 1985 BF 323 Hatch 2014-2015SOLD 1989 MX5 2015-2015

09-03-2009, 08:07 PM	#3
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	that price seems really good. it maybe they've quoted you for the wrong model. there is no TR astina or mazda as far as i know. if you can get the radiator for that (and it's the right one) definately a good deal __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

09-03-2009, 10:48 PM	#4
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Just sounds like the stock one at 26mm. Still a good price for one though. I think they might be thinking you're saying 'maGNa' though - there was a TR Magna. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

10-03-2009, 08:47 AM	#6
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	260 is a good price...the standard aftermarket replacement radiator for the BA 1.8L is a 26mm thickness... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

09-03-2009, 11:31 PM	#5
mike_d87 AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newcastle Car: Astina Posts: 481 View Photos By: mike_d87	The 3rd gen Holden Astra was the TR Series (1995-98). You need a radiator for a BA Astina.

10-03-2009, 11:05 AM	#7
John Doe Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Car: Astina Posts: 34	Thanks guys. You were spot on. Due to the "me lub joo long tyme" Engrish of the parts lady, she understood "Astina" as "Astra". The correct radiator is still 26mm with an aluminium core. The revised price though is $288, which still seems "velly cheep" based on your comments. Now can someone recommend an honest and reasonably priced mechanic to install the radiator? Preferably around the Strathfield / Parramatta area.

10-03-2009, 11:20 AM	#8
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	They're not hard to install yourself, if you've got a flathead screwdriver and 12mm spanner/socket. All you need to do is: - remove radiator cover panel (black one above radiator) - undo the hoses + coolant overflow - undo fan plugs - remove radiator - swap fans over to the new radiator - and a reverse of the rest of the previous instructions __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

10-03-2009, 11:37 AM	#9
John Doe Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Car: Astina Posts: 34	Thanks Rupewrecht. Unfortunately, I have neither the tools or skills for the job. I do however, have a case of beer for anyone who happens to have said tools or skills Regarding the radiator, I also had a quick look on Ebay and came up with this: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FORD-LASER-KN...742.m153.l1262 It's only 16mm thick. However, it comes with a 2 year warranty and is only $154 brand new!!! The site states that the radiator suits a 1989 - 1993 Mazda 323 / Astina. Presumably this is the BG model. Any idea whether it would fit into a BA Astina?

10-03-2009, 11:38 AM	#10
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	take it to a radiator placeto get installed...where are you getting the radiator from? __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

10-03-2009, 11:40 AM	#11
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	no a BG one wont fit a BA... BG has tanks top and bottom...BA has them on the sides... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

10-03-2009, 11:42 AM	#12
OZY-323 AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sydney Car: mazda Astina 323 '95' Posts: 264 View Photos By: OZY-323	are auto radiators thicker than manual, or is that only because of the fluid cooling? __________________

10-03-2009, 11:44 AM	#13
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	most aftermarket radiators are just sold as an auto as they fit both...and yes they just give you that bit extra room for cooling... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

10-03-2009, 12:23 PM	#15
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	KN/KQ Laser = BJ 323Astina/Protege (98-03) KJ Laser = BA 323 Astina (94-98) KF/KH Laser = BG 323 (Sedan only) (89-94) That eBay listing is way off. A KN laser radiator that fits a 89-93/94 astina??? wtf???

10-03-2009, 01:16 PM	#16
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	no where in that ebay listings does it say its a 89-94... and kj radiator will not fit an astina... the only astina radiator that is the same as the laser is the BJ 1 & 2 that fit the KN & KQ... BG astina rad is 1 of its own & BA astina rad is 1 of its own... LOOK ONLY FOR THE BA ASTINA RADIATOR!!! make sure its the 1.8 as well not the 2.0... doesnt matter if its auto or manual either... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735 Last edited by bourbon; 10-03-2009 at 01:19 PM.

10-03-2009, 01:45 PM	#17
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Reco one - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RADIATOR-MAZD...mZ200317423382 __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

11-03-2009, 11:13 AM	#19
Dogo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melb, Aus Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant Posts: 3,459 View Photos By: Dogo	looks like they're trying to piggy back off the name of http://www.ozeparts.com.au/ ( who aren't dodgy, and have the Radiator for $290 ) Why does one have "number of rows" = 1 and another = 2 ? The price is significantly different. __________________ [ Turbo BA ] see my readers ride

11-03-2009, 11:22 AM	#20
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	the rows is how thick it is...like single core, dual core, triple core... ozeparts radiators are the same ones we use...never heard of the other mob...theres lots of cheap and nasties radiators going around..but some good ones... $288 is a good price...and average for them...if any of my suppliers had em i could of beaten it probs...but ohh well... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

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