Is this what I think it is?

Samsara · 14-06-2012, 11:52 PM

Ice88 · 15-06-2012, 12:01 AM

That IM doesnt look right for an FS-ZE to me. Looks like a 626 IM which means its a FS-DE.

IF im right that is. Interestingly the coil packs are on teh front of the engine like BJIs as well.

phildough · 15-06-2012, 12:10 AM

I dont think that is a ZE as it doesn't have the funny black air box on top of the motor and if it came out of a capella it would have an aluminium box instead.
Im going to call BS on the photo being a FS-ZE.
To me it looks like an older FS-DE from a capella or even a FP-DE.
Its not a sport 20 motor as it doesn't have the mounts for the turtle shell.

marcs_sp20 · 15-06-2012, 12:11 AM

GE 626 motor, as im sure the GF went to top mount coils?

Samsara · 15-06-2012, 01:42 AM

bugger, i was really hoping it would be the ZE... would have gotten a loan and bought that sucker for $850!!!

Rhys · 15-06-2012, 08:15 AM

nah it's an 1.8 from a BJ1- looks exactly the same as mine.

Samsara · 15-06-2012, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhys

nah it's an 1.8 from a BJ1- looks exactly the same as mine.

He has it as 170bhp... really think it's exactly the same?? haha he's probably BS'ing

Clean_Cookie · 15-06-2012, 01:40 PM

Lots of nos.

Mad Mat · 15-06-2012, 02:02 PM

I'm with Marc, it looks like a Mazda 626 manifold. So could be a fs-de From a 2003 626

Ice88 · 15-06-2012, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Mat

I'm with Marc, it looks like a Mazda 626 manifold. So could be a fs-de From a 2003 626

Naw. They stopped making them in like 2002. If it was a GF engine then itd have coilpacks on top IIRC.

marcs_sp20 · 15-06-2012, 05:48 PM

JDM Source FS-DE:

1992 GE 626 FS-DE:

2002 GF 626 FS-DE:

Pretty sure that price of $850 shipped would only be to Canada & the US 48 States..

maztech · 15-06-2012, 07:19 PM

That's a series 2 GF motor nothing special

Samsara · 15-06-2012, 08:38 PM

So why does he have it listed as 170hp? surely that isn't right?

z100 · 15-06-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Samsara

So why does he have it listed as 170hp? surely that isn't right?

Why don't you just email them and ask? Maybe it's a genuine typo?

rodhog · 15-06-2012, 10:42 PM

Not to make you feel lost - as I can't get to any engine pics right now or any of my stuff.
but I can't remember what a FS-ZE in GW or GF looks like. It looks like as pointed out a coil pack FS-DE. but As we know in Japan Capella had both engines. Plus KL-Ze ,FP and deisels is you really want to complicate it.

IMO the best way is if you look at the gearbox. According to mazda sales. Only a Capella up to 1999 GW and GFs were avaialble with FS-ZE and a 5 speed manual. After that it was Auto only FWD same unit was used in the Premecy and it too was Auto only FWD. But my understadning Auto only 4WD in the GW's. But my Sales stuff they don't show any enigne bay pics just details like 121KW - FS-ZE FWD Auto etc - that was in the Premecy. A 2003 one.
Can't tell in the pics if it had a flex plate or if the thermostat housing has more the extra auto temp sensors. But then again late engines ran the fan control throught the ECU without the override sensor.

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Ice88 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Auchenflower, Brisbane Car: Blue SP20 Posts: 2,782	That IM doesnt look right for an FS-ZE to me. Looks like a 626 IM which means its a FS-DE. IF im right that is. Interestingly the coil packs are on teh front of the engine like BJIs as well. __________________

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15-06-2012, 12:10 AM	#3
phildough Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brisneyland, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Frankenstina Posts: 2,868 View Photos By: phildough	I dont think that is a ZE as it doesn't have the funny black air box on top of the motor and if it came out of a capella it would have an aluminium box instead. Im going to call BS on the photo being a FS-ZE. To me it looks like an older FS-DE from a capella or even a FP-DE. Its not a sport 20 motor as it doesn't have the mounts for the turtle shell.

15-06-2012, 01:42 AM	#5
Samsara Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Brisbane, QLD Car: 2003 BJ-II 323 Astina Hatch Posts: 588	bugger, i was really hoping it would be the ZE... would have gotten a loan and bought that sucker for $850!!!

15-06-2012, 08:15 AM	#6
Rhys Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Brisbane, QLD Car: 2000 BJ Protege Posts: 714	nah it's an 1.8 from a BJ1- looks exactly the same as mine.

15-06-2012, 05:48 PM	#11
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	JDM Source FS-DE: 1992 GE 626 FS-DE: 2002 GF 626 FS-DE: Pretty sure that price of $850 shipped would only be to Canada & the US 48 States.. __________________

15-06-2012, 07:19 PM	#12
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	That's a series 2 GF motor nothing special

15-06-2012, 08:38 PM	#13
Samsara Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Brisbane, QLD Car: 2003 BJ-II 323 Astina Hatch Posts: 588	So why does he have it listed as 170hp? surely that isn't right?

15-06-2012, 10:42 PM	#15
rodhog Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Lakemba Car: mx-6 626 Gs300 Maz2 was 95 KF BA-HT Posts: 2,024 View Photos By: rodhog	Not to make you feel lost - as I can't get to any engine pics right now or any of my stuff. but I can't remember what a FS-ZE in GW or GF looks like. It looks like as pointed out a coil pack FS-DE. but As we know in Japan Capella had both engines. Plus KL-Ze ,FP and deisels is you really want to complicate it. IMO the best way is if you look at the gearbox. According to mazda sales. Only a Capella up to 1999 GW and GFs were avaialble with FS-ZE and a 5 speed manual. After that it was Auto only FWD same unit was used in the Premecy and it too was Auto only FWD. But my understadning Auto only 4WD in the GW's. But my Sales stuff they don't show any enigne bay pics just details like 121KW - FS-ZE FWD Auto etc - that was in the Premecy. A 2003 one. Can't tell in the pics if it had a flex plate or if the thermostat housing has more the extra auto temp sensors. But then again late engines ran the fan control throught the ECU without the override sensor.