Electric Supercharger

phly · 11-03-2009, 01:03 AM

Hey guys. Yes, i'm currently addicted to ebay and just constantly looking for things to buy. I just came across this little gimmicky thing. I think its basically its an electric powered supercharger (more likely to be a fan LOL)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=150331308987

For less than $90 delivered i'm kinda tempted to try it out especially since I just removed my intake resonator box and can feel some improved throttle response.

I find their claims pretty funny though:
- Increase your horsepower by up to 26%
- Lower your gas consumption
- Better vehicle handling!!! (they've got to be joking LOL)
- Extends engine life???
- And from a different seller it also claims to give 4 PSI of boost LOL

What do you guys reckon?

DavoAust · 11-03-2009, 01:06 AM

do a search for it on here..

the simple answer is don't get it

Rhys_Mazda323 · 11-03-2009, 01:08 AM

haha i like the 'Increased horsepower (kilowatts for non US customers'

funny, i didnt think they were the same measure but with a different name lol

Rhys_Mazda323 · 11-03-2009, 01:09 AM

oh and Davo..

i think he's joking

i pray for his dignity that he is anyway

Dogo · 11-03-2009, 09:41 AM

dont bother its rubbish , spend 90 bucks on something else

bourbon · 11-03-2009, 10:10 AM

get a real supercharge...and i guarantee you will not be disapointed

DaBomb · 11-03-2009, 08:30 PM

extract from Autospeed why they dont work:

"If this 3 litre engine is revving at 6000 rpm full throttle, this means that it inhales 7200 litres of air per minute (remember, one intake stroke per two rpm), or 120 litres per second. To put it in different units, each minute this engine consumes 254 cubic feet of air. To put that into context, a little 60mm diameter PC cooling fan flows only about 18 cubic feet per minute. So, just to flow the amount of air that this naturally aspirated, 3 litre engine needs, you'd need an array of fourteen 60mm fans working flat-out. And that's without creating any boost at all...."

rodhog · 11-03-2009, 08:33 PM

can I tell you now at $90 it's a rip off.

What it is - is a cheap chinese made version of a decent quality industrial blower unit.

These blower units usually made of metal - or hi quality stainless steel - use a similar blower fan like in your car ventilation system.

They are normally used to control heat on ceramic heaters. In industry.

they normally have a 240Volts up too 20amp motor normally a 15amp is fitted on most.

normally last up to 5years on a good german Japanese one.
the chinese ones made from palstic originally for there chinese counter part machinery are worth approx $21 trade.

I pay $250 for my germany ones and they are onyl the steal version.

but here is the deal.

They are a blower- NOT a compressor.

there has only ever been one really well made electric supercharger.

It looks just like a normal Capa type - Centrifugal supercharger but no belt - a electric motor.

Problem is with no Voltage to pwoer it it uses high current amps to do the work. - meaning you need a minmal 100amp alternator to supply the 40amps it needed to work up to 5-7psi. here was the catch most I saw were fitted to like 3 cylinder charades - stock alternaotr was 65amp.
It needed a stronger battery to help it as the alternator only pecked at 90amps it's replacement one.
And the extra load helpped suck the extra power made.

IMO it's a funny but they can work. The problem is why would you.

S/C's are still used but turbochargers made alot more sense every which way you look at it.

but then again
As I say not such thing as cheap power.
Because each version has a price ot pay - at the pump- or even in case of my favourite NOS- you can't always have it full and it's not quite legal on the street

karamello · 11-03-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodhog

normally last up to 5years on a good german Japanese one.

they make good stuff, those german-japanese

phly · 12-03-2009, 10:55 AM

LOL yeah it was interesting just to do some research on this and watch some test clips. These two clips in particular are pretty good

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...34884865985766

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...53084014161987

11-03-2009, 01:03 AM	#1
phly AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney Car: 97 BA Astina Hatchback Posts: 384 View Photos By: phly	Electric Supercharger Hey guys. Yes, i'm currently addicted to ebay and just constantly looking for things to buy. I just came across this little gimmicky thing. I think its basically its an electric powered supercharger (more likely to be a fan LOL) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=150331308987 For less than $90 delivered i'm kinda tempted to try it out especially since I just removed my intake resonator box and can feel some improved throttle response. I find their claims pretty funny though: - Increase your horsepower by up to 26% - Lower your gas consumption - Better vehicle handling!!! (they've got to be joking LOL) - Extends engine life??? - And from a different seller it also claims to give 4 PSI of boost LOL What do you guys reckon? __________________ 1997 Mazda Astina 323 BA Hatchback

11-03-2009, 01:06 AM	#2
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	do a search for it on here.. the simple answer is don't get it __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

11-03-2009, 01:08 AM	#3
Rhys_Mazda323 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Helena Valley, Perth Car: 2002 323 Protege Limited Edition Posts: 147	haha i like the 'Increased horsepower (kilowatts for non US customers' funny, i didnt think they were the same measure but with a different name lol __________________

11-03-2009, 01:09 AM	#4
Rhys_Mazda323 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Helena Valley, Perth Car: 2002 323 Protege Limited Edition Posts: 147	oh and Davo.. i think he's joking i pray for his dignity that he is anyway __________________

11-03-2009, 09:41 AM	#5
Dogo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melb, Aus Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant Posts: 3,459 View Photos By: Dogo	dont bother its rubbish , spend 90 bucks on something else __________________ [ Turbo BA ] see my readers ride

11-03-2009, 10:10 AM	#6
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	get a real supercharge...and i guarantee you will not be disapointed __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

11-03-2009, 08:30 PM	#7
DaBomb Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Newcastle Car: Nissan N14 Pulsar SR20DET Posts: 17	extract from Autospeed why they dont work: "If this 3 litre engine is revving at 6000 rpm full throttle, this means that it inhales 7200 litres of air per minute (remember, one intake stroke per two rpm), or 120 litres per second. To put it in different units, each minute this engine consumes 254 cubic feet of air. To put that into context, a little 60mm diameter PC cooling fan flows only about 18 cubic feet per minute. So, just to flow the amount of air that this naturally aspirated, 3 litre engine needs, you'd need an array of fourteen 60mm fans working flat-out. And that's without creating any boost at all...." __________________ Nissan N14 SR20DET 210hp ATFW.

11-03-2009, 08:33 PM	#8
rodhog Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Lakemba Car: mx-6 626 Gs300 Maz2 was 95 KF BA-HT Posts: 2,024 View Photos By: rodhog	can I tell you now at $90 it's a rip off. What it is - is a cheap chinese made version of a decent quality industrial blower unit. These blower units usually made of metal - or hi quality stainless steel - use a similar blower fan like in your car ventilation system. They are normally used to control heat on ceramic heaters. In industry. they normally have a 240Volts up too 20amp motor normally a 15amp is fitted on most. normally last up to 5years on a good german Japanese one. the chinese ones made from palstic originally for there chinese counter part machinery are worth approx $21 trade. I pay $250 for my germany ones and they are onyl the steal version. but here is the deal. They are a blower- NOT a compressor. there has only ever been one really well made electric supercharger. It looks just like a normal Capa type - Centrifugal supercharger but no belt - a electric motor. Problem is with no Voltage to pwoer it it uses high current amps to do the work. - meaning you need a minmal 100amp alternator to supply the 40amps it needed to work up to 5-7psi. here was the catch most I saw were fitted to like 3 cylinder charades - stock alternaotr was 65amp. It needed a stronger battery to help it as the alternator only pecked at 90amps it's replacement one. And the extra load helpped suck the extra power made. IMO it's a funny but they can work. The problem is why would you. S/C's are still used but turbochargers made alot more sense every which way you look at it. but then again As I say not such thing as cheap power. Because each version has a price ot pay - at the pump- or even in case of my favourite NOS- you can't always have it full and it's not quite legal on the street

12-03-2009, 10:55 AM	#10
phly AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney Car: 97 BA Astina Hatchback Posts: 384 View Photos By: phly	LOL yeah it was interesting just to do some research on this and watch some test clips. These two clips in particular are pretty good http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...34884865985766 http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...53084014161987 __________________ 1997 Mazda Astina 323 BA Hatchback

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