NEED HELP bg astina with bp engine auto to manual conversion - Page 2

90323astina · 05-11-2007, 05:10 PM

ok so that comp isnt wat i thought cus it only has one plug and goes to the ignition loom, this IS WEIRD!!!

DavoAust · 05-11-2007, 05:32 PM

can you take a picture or type out that label on it?

i'm looking at the wiring diagrams for the BG's and the starting circuit has the EC-AT (electronic automatic transmission) control unit, ECU and cruise control (if you got it) are hooked up to it for obvious reasons. EC-AT should be in passengers footwell along with cruise control. ECU is under the headunit. i have no idea what that could be

90323astina · 05-11-2007, 05:42 PM

Ill Remove Both Of Them And Get Pics Just Give Us 10 Mins

90323astina · 05-11-2007, 06:38 PM

ok i got i wrong again there is 2 plugs going into this thing but they are a differant shape and size than the ones that connect to the wiring loom

90323astina · 05-11-2007, 06:40 PM

ok took a fair pit longer than 10 mins

90323astina · 05-11-2007, 06:43 PM

ok the unit reads:

BP24
UNIT-CONT.,EAT
BP24 18 9E1 B
LOT.NO.OH31
Naldec

that is exactly wat is on sticker

DavoAust · 05-11-2007, 06:57 PM

Well thats the definitely the transmission control box. thats what the UNIT-CONT EAT (unit controller for electronic automatic transmission) means.

I'm assuming you're gonna change the loom over, which means you can get rid of that box and not worry about it as the new loom won't have those plugs or anything. Thats a odd place to have it seeing as its supposed to be in the passenger footwell according to bourbs and my workshop manual

90323astina · 05-11-2007, 08:36 PM

wat about the seperate loom that goes from the main loom to the unit?, cus it is intertwined in the loom that controlls indicators fan wipers and lights

90323astina · 05-11-2007, 10:13 PM

well if anyone wants to buy any of the auto parts left over you are free to make an offer
i'll have:
the selector setup & cable
auto wiring loom
ecu
auto control unit (now i know wat it is(thanks guys!))
all the electrical s*it attached to the trannie(1 sensor? and inhibitor switch)
maybe a throttle posi sensor
a full unopened 5L bottle of valvoline atf dx3(unless the manual uses it)
thats about it for now
make any offer i dont care about the price watever u think is fare will do, i just cant pay to post anything but i am in logan area if anyone wanna just pick the s*it

bourbon · 06-11-2007, 10:04 AM

ok thats odd...im just tryin to member back that far...i remember the auto look had the yellow plugs like yours...i cant member anythin goin to the ignition and stuff...

90323astina · 06-11-2007, 10:40 AM

yeah ill check it out an see if i can seperate it without cuting wires

90323astina · 06-11-2007, 02:19 PM

hay bourbs how much wiring and crap did u have to rip out and/or swap under the dash to do your conversion?

90323astina · 06-11-2007, 03:05 PM

go dolphin jo

90323astina · 06-11-2007, 03:33 PM

i just had an idea,
since the clutch master cylinder just has a hose going from it to the brake fluid resiviour to get it's fluid, is there anything stopping me from just fitting a second resiviour just for the clutch instead of swapping the brake master cylinder(pain in the anus),
from where i see it it would be better and way easier cus then the clutch would have its own suply of fluid instead of sharing with the brakes__________no?

DavoAust · 06-11-2007, 04:52 PM

there isn't but i'd still be replacing the master cylinder. at least then i'd know that everything is as mazda designed it.

bourbon · 07-11-2007, 11:00 AM

okk first off...wiring, only wiring i changed was the engine loom...

next off you can get a custom made clutch master, youd need to goto a brake and clutch place to get them to do something...there some guys here around the corner from me in herbert st called slacks creek brake and clutch... best be would to take down the master clutch cylinder and explain what you want to do...

90323astina · 07-11-2007, 11:21 AM

i actually have a resiviour allready that i can bolt to the firewall and run the hose to i was just making sure that it wont root it

bourbon · 07-11-2007, 11:24 AM

i dont no aye bud...best bet is talk to the pros who know what there talkin about...

90323astina · 07-11-2007, 06:15 PM

ok this conversion is a bit of a pain in the arse cuz i just had to rip out the steering column to swap the pedel assembaly over

bourbon · 07-11-2007, 06:31 PM

ohh well its not that hard...i cant member if i had to do it...youll enjoy it afterwards mate

05-11-2007, 05:10 PM	#21
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	ok so that comp isnt wat i thought cus it only has one plug and goes to the ignition loom, this IS WEIRD!!! __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

05-11-2007, 05:32 PM	#22
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	can you take a picture or type out that label on it? i'm looking at the wiring diagrams for the BG's and the starting circuit has the EC-AT (electronic automatic transmission) control unit, ECU and cruise control (if you got it) are hooked up to it for obvious reasons. EC-AT should be in passengers footwell along with cruise control. ECU is under the headunit. i have no idea what that could be __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

05-11-2007, 05:42 PM	#23
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	Ill Remove Both Of Them And Get Pics Just Give Us 10 Mins __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

05-11-2007, 06:38 PM	#24
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	ok i got i wrong again there is 2 plugs going into this thing but they are a differant shape and size than the ones that connect to the wiring loom __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

05-11-2007, 06:40 PM	#25
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	ok took a fair pit longer than 10 mins __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

05-11-2007, 06:43 PM	#26
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	ok the unit reads: BP24 UNIT-CONT.,EAT BP24 18 9E1 B LOT.NO.OH31 Naldec that is exactly wat is on sticker __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

05-11-2007, 06:57 PM	#27
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	Well thats the definitely the transmission control box. thats what the UNIT-CONT EAT (unit controller for electronic automatic transmission) means. I'm assuming you're gonna change the loom over, which means you can get rid of that box and not worry about it as the new loom won't have those plugs or anything. Thats a odd place to have it seeing as its supposed to be in the passenger footwell according to bourbs and my workshop manual __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

05-11-2007, 08:36 PM	#28
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	wat about the seperate loom that goes from the main loom to the unit?, cus it is intertwined in the loom that controlls indicators fan wipers and lights __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

05-11-2007, 10:13 PM	#29
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	well if anyone wants to buy any of the auto parts left over you are free to make an offer i'll have: the selector setup & cable auto wiring loom ecu auto control unit (now i know wat it is(thanks guys!)) all the electrical sit attached to the trannie(1 sensor? and inhibitor switch) maybe a throttle posi sensor a full unopened 5L bottle of valvoline atf dx3(unless the manual uses it) thats about it for now make any offer i dont care about the price watever u think is fare will do, i just cant pay to post anything but i am in logan area if anyone wanna just pick the sit __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

06-11-2007, 10:04 AM	#30
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	ok thats odd...im just tryin to member back that far...i remember the auto look had the yellow plugs like yours...i cant member anythin goin to the ignition and stuff... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

06-11-2007, 10:40 AM	#31
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	yeah ill check it out an see if i can seperate it without cuting wires __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

06-11-2007, 02:19 PM	#32
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	hay bourbs how much wiring and crap did u have to rip out and/or swap under the dash to do your conversion? __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

06-11-2007, 03:05 PM	#33
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	go dolphin jo __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

06-11-2007, 03:33 PM	#34
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	i just had an idea, since the clutch master cylinder just has a hose going from it to the brake fluid resiviour to get it's fluid, is there anything stopping me from just fitting a second resiviour just for the clutch instead of swapping the brake master cylinder(pain in the anus), from where i see it it would be better and way easier cus then the clutch would have its own suply of fluid instead of sharing with the brakes__________no? __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

06-11-2007, 04:52 PM	#35
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	there isn't but i'd still be replacing the master cylinder. at least then i'd know that everything is as mazda designed it. __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

07-11-2007, 11:00 AM	#36
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	okk first off...wiring, only wiring i changed was the engine loom... next off you can get a custom made clutch master, youd need to goto a brake and clutch place to get them to do something...there some guys here around the corner from me in herbert st called slacks creek brake and clutch... best be would to take down the master clutch cylinder and explain what you want to do... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

07-11-2007, 11:21 AM	#37
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	i actually have a resiviour allready that i can bolt to the firewall and run the hose to i was just making sure that it wont root it __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

07-11-2007, 11:24 AM	#38
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	i dont no aye bud...best bet is talk to the pros who know what there talkin about... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

07-11-2007, 06:15 PM	#39
90323astina Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: chambers flatt QLD Australia Car: 1990 323 astina bg Posts: 142	ok this conversion is a bit of a pain in the arse cuz i just had to rip out the steering column to swap the pedel assembaly over __________________ 1990 323 astina bg was an auto now a manual

07-11-2007, 06:31 PM	#40
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	ohh well its not that hard...i cant member if i had to do it...youll enjoy it afterwards mate __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

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