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Old 16-01-2003, 06:08 AM   #1
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[color=#FF0000ost_uid0]would anybody know about any descent speakers that could replace the stock speakers(front and rear) that are not to much cost, and without TOO much work and stuffing round?[/colorost_uid0]
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Old 16-01-2003, 06:28 AM   #2
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[color=#0000FFost_uid5]just go to your local audio shop and ask for replacement speakers. the front are 5x7 and the rear are 6" or 6 1/2" (not too sure about the rear ones size) otherwise, just take one rear one out and take it with you.


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[color=#FF0000ost_uid0]any particular brands?[/colorost_uid0]
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Old 16-01-2003, 11:25 PM   #4
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[color=#000000ost_uid0]G'Day Sandy,
*You've got the Hardtop (96)? *If so, rears are 6x9, front 7x5. *I've got JBL GTO series - kick arse. *7x5 are about $140, the 6x9 about $180 (I think, don't quote me).

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Edit: Oh, yeah, getting the rear speakers out is blast. *See my previous topic re: Help!!!! in the Audio section. *It'll give you detailed instructions. *You don't need to follow all of them though.[/colorost_uid0]
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Old 16-01-2003, 11:28 PM   #5
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[color=#000000ost_uid0]Oh, yeah, audio shops will try and tell you that you aint got 6x9, as none of the books list the Hardtop!!! SO they go by the hatch/Protege that both got 6 inch.[/colorost_uid0]
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Old 17-01-2003, 12:31 AM   #6
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[color=#0000FFost_uid0]:O i think hes sis has a hatch look at his Signature ::[/colorost_uid0]
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Old 17-01-2003, 01:44 AM   #7
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[color=#32CD32ost_uid0]um ive got 6 1/2" splits front and rear.
the tweeter in the front is mounted up on the top of the door and in the back its next to the speaker.
oh yeah ive phoenix gold in the front and clarion in the back.[/colorost_uid0]
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Old 17-01-2003, 02:20 AM   #8
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[color=#000000ost_uid0]Well, spank my arse and call me Charlie!
Thanks for pointing it out, mabey next time I should read the signature berfore posting. I thought Sandyman had a Hardtop..., oh well, [/colorost_uid0]
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Old 17-01-2003, 06:08 AM   #9
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[color=#FF0000ost_uid0]hey astina... just wondering about a few things in your set up cos i was thinking about doing the something similar...

did you have much reworking to get the 6 1/2" into the front doors?

do you use seperate crossovers and if so do you use some kind of external amp?

and finally, are your speakers in the back still mounted in the stock (door) position?? i ask this cos i was thinking of leaving out the rear door speakers and putting a good set of 6x9's on the rear parcel shelf..

any advice on this would be appreciated...[/colorost_uid0]
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[color=#FF0000ost_uid0]mr shadow ya dumbarse

its a hatch.

hey everyone, hows this for a setup: very thick/strong perspex going from the top of the back of the rear seats to the sides to the very back of the boot, with 2 12", or 15"(if you find some) square subs, and amps under the perspex. all you have to do to stuff round wiv the subs is sit in the back seat and pull down the back of it.

i know it isn't that realistic, but still..[/colorost_uid0]
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Old 19-03-2003, 12:45 AM   #11
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[color=#000000ost_uid0]I'm not at all an audiophile, but the usual stores like JB & Hi-Fi Supermarket seel the mainstream stuff.
I have listen to the 3 & 4 way Pioneers, Kenwoods, Phillips, MTX & Sony & would have to say their Infinity 6x9 "2 ways" blitzed them. Kenwood or Sony had a pair for around $330 which were not as crisp & with "in-ya-face" styling.
I bought the 2nd last pair at Ringwood HFS for $140. They originally sold for around $279.
I could tell much diff between the 2 & 3 ways, except the 3's sounded a little trebley.
I once had Pioneer 6 x 9" 4 ways & they were tinny as ****.[/colorost_uid0]
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Old 19-03-2003, 04:42 AM   #12
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[color=#000000ost_uid0]For factory spots, replacing factory speakers; Fusion and JBL both have 5x7 speakers in their ranges. I'm sure there are a few other companies, but i don't who they are.

And for the back, 6½" whatevers!! Splits, Co-ax. Bear in mind though that the back speakers are for "Rear-Fill", so they're not as important as the Front Sound Stage.

Critter can elaborate on this, or pop over to the CAA forums.

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Old 26-06-2003, 09:39 PM   #13
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ok, this topic seems to be a long time ago...

anyway, replaced rears with 6" kenwoods (nice speakers). had to butcher the speaker bracket a little :evil: .

still looking at front speakers. whats the price range on those jbl or fusion 5x7's adam?
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Yo, Sandy, long time no hear. Wassup dude? Anyways' just had the jbl's installed in the front doors, totaly kick-ass, and with the deadening, awsome!!! They've stopped that particular model, but they'll be bringin out new 5x7's soon. Price was about $140 for the speakers, used about $20 worth of sound deadening material (I checked the invoice, wasn't $40). Whenever you're up at skating, look out for my car and I'll give you a listen. (red Hardtop, AstinaGT sticker, and if you look closely, you can see the jbls in the rear window).

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Old 27-06-2003, 05:00 PM   #15
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whats the price range on those jbl or fusion 5x7's adam?
Yeh, not too sure mate.... Boston Acoustics actually do a 5x7 split speaker package.. Chris had these in the SP20 before he upgraded. He has informed me that they were quite suitable for the Astina.. Definately a crisp sound from the tweets.. I'm going to be looking into these when I am doing the stereo..

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Old 27-06-2003, 05:11 PM   #16
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I have the boston acoustics 3way 5x7inch speakers in my car,and they sound pretty good,1 day ill upgrade to the splits :P
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Old 27-06-2003, 09:22 PM   #17
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thanks shadow, its good to be back. was quite busy these last few weeks. now i got 3 weeks holidays, and i am going to try to defy the temptation and keep my posting to a minimum to avoid confrontation with brad, mal and jynx. oh, and sehnkahn too.

and shadow, it don't look like i'm going to be at skating much this year. too much work to do and i didn't end up doing ice hockey; difficulty concerning costs, time, etc. theres always next year. I passed the development squad though! so don't go thinking i'm crap :lol:. I'll take you anytime anywhere! :P

ok, sound lesson i have learned(for other not-so-experienced):

1. NEVER SKIMP ON SPEAKERS (it will cost you more in the long or even short run) - dad got my sis some 'dodgy' speakers for her laser. NEVER SKIMP. They're those dodgy venus ones. completely not worth the price paid.

2. Stick with the well known brands (pioneer, kenwod, and anything better if you can afford it) - will save money in long run. you won't find so much fault with these known brands.

ok adam, could you explain 'splits/co-ax'? I intend to become an audio junkie, and i need to learn the basics before i can get to any high level of understanding.
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Old 27-06-2003, 10:00 PM   #18
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I'm no audiophile (audio junkie),
When it comes to Amps, they are (or historicaly) measured in RMS watts.
Speakers are measured in P-P Watts. (peak to peak)
(Correct me if I'm wrong) 1 P-P =.71??? RMS
This would translate to a 100 watt amp needing 150 watt speakers to work best.

Why go to this detail?

When you intend building up a system you should get a plan and stick to it. 150watt speakers sound like crap on a 25 watt amp, not enough grunt to do the job well.

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Old 29-06-2003, 08:20 PM   #19
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Most answers I've seen to this kind of conversion go along the lines of:
"You can't convert a made up figure(W) into a real figure(WRMS)"
Manufacturers make up bullsh*t figures to make their products look better.

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(Correct me if I'm wrong) 1 P-P =.71??? RMS
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Most answers I've seen to this kind of conversion go along the lines of:
"You can't convert a made up figure(W) into a real figure(WRMS)"
Manufacturers make up bullsh*t figures to make their products look better.

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Speakers are measured in P-P Watts. (peak to peak)
(Correct me if I'm wrong) 1 P-P =.71??? RMS
Agreed, WTF is peak music power? I've heard 30 watt RMS systems that have better clarity and more power than 200 watts PMP.

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