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Old 26-07-2007, 07:40 PM   #21
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i would even go as far as hoses and fittings....thermostat and maybe the water pump....remeber GTX's are prone to overheating so avoid a costly bill
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Old 26-07-2007, 07:46 PM   #22
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ah cool so a list of things i would need to take from his car are ... ..

engine *of course*
afm
loom+ecu
pressure plate/clutch
all the turbo/exhaust stuff intil the cat
intercoller+piping
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can anyone add to the list ??

getting strut brace also .. but i heard that the gtx one wont fit on a bg astina gt
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Old 26-07-2007, 07:48 PM   #23
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ugh yeah .. the water pump is a pain to get to when the engine is in .. that will definetly be something i will have a good look at
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Old 26-07-2007, 10:18 PM   #24
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also engine mounts .. are they exactly the same or will i be needing the gtx ones too
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Old 27-07-2007, 01:02 PM   #25
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went and looked at the engine .. its in pretty good nick .. not smokey .. but not smoke free .. warrentable tho .. seems in pretty good nick .. only thing that confused me is that he said .. hes runing a pipe which makes it boost real high he was saying like 14 or some thing .. he said a need a external wastegate to fix it or something because the sensor he was plugging it into was blocked .. dont know if this is bad or good anyone help me here ? the thing the pipe was spose to go on to was attached to the afm casing .. dont know if this is the original place for it but this device must control the boost right ??
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Old 27-07-2007, 01:05 PM   #26
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14 sounds bullcrap to me .. but he said the cutof comes on sometimes though .. think it has a aftermarket bov too
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Old 27-07-2007, 02:30 PM   #27
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will the gt fuel pump cut it or will i need the gtx fuel pump also mabie someone can do a mass answer of my last 5 questions haha
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Old 27-07-2007, 03:56 PM   #28
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actucally it can go to 14psi becoz i hit it every so often but i dont like it going that high tho. and im just using my standard astina fuel pump atm i answered 2 ha ha
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Old 27-07-2007, 03:58 PM   #29
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a GTX swap is a weekend job
my costs where $1500 for COMPLETED GTX
new belts,oil , filters, anitfrezze, new CV boots etc

all up under $1700 NZ
i swapped it over in a weekend but my self
started first pop, cost $50 to get the extra bit of the exhaust sorted

mind you id never do it again, not worth it
the VJ20 turbo is usless, but a good starting point

save all out for VF8 turbo, VR4 injectors etc. and go for there, still use GTX ECU , but take it to the DYNO and get them to tune it..might cost another $250 for a FULL dyno run and tweaks on the AFM
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Old 27-07-2007, 04:41 PM   #30
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it all comes down to how far you want to go....you can buy a engine halfcut and drop the engine out of it and throw it in or you can rebuild and tweak little parts....once again it all comes down to what you want from it....
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Old 27-07-2007, 05:21 PM   #31
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No one ever plans or expect to have an accident. Most people follow the road rules, but remember that everyone makes mistakes. So even though you may do everything right 99.99% of the time a split second may cost you s*** loads. No insurance is a massive gamble if you ask me.
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Old 27-07-2007, 05:27 PM   #32
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yeah fair enough point..also bring in the factor of wat u use ur car for..if its daily driver..or u drive its project or ur toy n u use it once every couple weeks n harldy on main rds..n im guessin at least half the ppl on here insurance company's wouldnt even touch their cars if they tried
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Old 27-07-2007, 05:54 PM   #33
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ok allready about the insurance thing .. i get how important it is .. boostwise .. is 14 good tho ..if i get the engine should try to find the thing that is spose to attach onto this pipe .. it probally has a inlet and a outlet .. some kind of boost controller ? mabie its something on the afm .. wouldint mind reattaching it as i dont want it boosting more than factory after the transplant .. was told by the guy selling the engine it was blocked .. any idea what this is called? thx people for your help

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Old 27-07-2007, 11:47 PM   #34
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yeah its mounted on afm..usually hose runs from tee peice off hose that runs from wastegate actuater to intake-throttle body pipe..(look infront of cooling fan)
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Old 28-07-2007, 12:01 AM   #35
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ah so it would be the factory boost regulator .. would it be a good idea then to put a boost controller there so the turbo isint going full nutz all the time? ... my dad has a few compressor psi guage'ajustor thingies haha .. would these cut it as a cheapo engine bay boost controller?
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Old 29-07-2007, 10:19 AM   #36
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well if u say its blocked off..hes prob just removed pipe off tee peice that runs to standard regulater on afm..and put screw in it or sumthin..so would just be matter of connected pipe back up.assuming regulator is still on afm n just not hooked up.

or remove tee peice and put in manual boost controller/boost tee
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Old 29-07-2007, 08:58 PM   #37
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ah yeah i think he meant the t piece is blocked ... so hes probally just run the hose stright back to the engine *thinks this is how it works ... is a turbo nub tbh* and the turbo it just goin as hard as it can ? .. if thats what hes done then when i get the engine im putting some kind of boost controller on straight away ... he hasint got back to me though so i hope hes still keen
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Old 30-07-2007, 07:54 PM   #38
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bah he decided to sell it on instead of swap ... nice time to miss out on a good deal too got no $$ .. ow well.. at least it has ingited my intrest in turbong my astina heh mabie its better for my fwd gearbox too .. best plan now i think is to look around for parts for the engine before i actually buy one :P eg boost controller belts head gaskit mabie a bigger turbo/intercooler or somethign.... could even work backwards .. and invest in gearbox before droppin a engine in a blowing one up straight away heh.. after a bit of reading on the boxes i seem to have found that the diff and the 3rd gear are the weak points .. i have read about adding a few gears to the diff to take some of the stress .. but any remedy for the 3rd gear problem? read up about alot of different opinions with fwd boxes
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Old 30-07-2007, 08:16 PM   #39
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yeah a PAR straight cut third gear would help alot!
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Old 30-07-2007, 09:05 PM   #40
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ah how much roughly do these par gears cost ? anyone broken one before? *is wondering if they are close to unbreakable .. would a par 3rd gear bring the smaller 3rd gear closer to the same strengh as the others.. also where would i start looking for the best bearings for the g series box? apart from making 3rd gear stronger ... and adding 2 more spider gears in the diff *looked at a article on fordlaser.com but cant find it now* ... is there anythin else thats going to be a weak point? i know the gtx boxes housing breaks .. but im thinking that wont happen in a fwd because its fwd :P *no traction compared to a gtx with slicks*.. but im not sure any imput on strengthening fwd boxes would be greatly appreciated
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