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Old 13-07-2004, 12:34 AM   #1
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"camber kit" - your thoughts???

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Old 13-07-2004, 03:58 AM   #2
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The Whiteline ones are the same price, do the same job and after the radiator cap episode I'd rather purchase from a retailer than a back-yarder.
As for the concept? Many people use them and are happy with them but I'm a little uneasy about replacing a 12mm bolt with am 8-9mm substitute as you end up with about half the steal. Even if it is higher tensile that is a huge difference IMO.
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Old 13-07-2004, 07:35 AM   #3
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just spend the proper money and get pillow ball upper mounts... much easier to adjust on the fly - ie dont have to take off the wheel to get to it easily
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Old 13-07-2004, 12:56 PM   #4
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easier said that done. I tried to get K-mac to make some for the BAs and they were thoroughly unhelpful
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Old 13-07-2004, 02:43 PM   #5
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You only need camber kits if you cant get enough adjustment from the std system
eg when you lower the car heaps. They are a adjustment tool and not a perf mod
by themselves. Get a rear swaybar or save up and get lowered springs will give a
better joy factor out of them
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Old 13-07-2004, 02:50 PM   #6
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By the way I have had cambers pins for 7 years now and none have ever broken and
even with 3" lowered car can still get heaps of negative camber for circuit work or hard
street driving I actually had to have a bit taken out as was wearing the insides of my
tyres out from the reduced traction and turbo wheelspin. Cant see the need for camber
tops even though they look real cool the pins have been more than enough for me.
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Old 13-07-2004, 02:52 PM   #7
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only reason i was looking at them was because i needed new strut top mounts

otherwise what Mal said about them being an "adjustment tool and not a perf mod by themselves" i fully agree with
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Old 14-07-2004, 01:35 AM   #8
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i have the whiteline castor and camber kits on my car...

the camber kit (4 bolts) made little difference.... and i wasnt too concerned about thin bolts cause its 1 out of 2 on each strut...

the castor kit however made a significant difference...
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Old 14-07-2004, 08:19 AM   #9
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that's a good point - only use 1 bolt per strut. obviously using two bolts per strut will double any movement because you'd move them in opposite directions, but if you're worries about them being thin it's a good compromise
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Old 14-07-2004, 12:18 PM   #10
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Thats not what he meant. The strut has 2 bolts where the hub bolts to.
The bottom bolt is the larger of the 2 and acts as a pivot point and the
camber bolt is the top one which because of the offset shape when twisted
provides the adjustment. The Bottom bolt is pretty much strong enough to
hold the strut to the hub the camber just supports so being a bit thinner is
not a problem.
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Old 14-07-2004, 12:24 PM   #11
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yeah i know, what i was meaning is that you can replace the both the top and bottom bolts with camber adjust bolts. that way you double the movement - ie the top one facing one way and the bottom one facing the other
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Old 14-07-2004, 01:33 PM   #12
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When they are only 2" away from one another cant see that being an advantage.
Again as the camber kit is only to provide adjustment and I can get more adjustment
than I can use even being 3" lowered how much adjustment do you need ??
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Old 17-07-2004, 04:32 AM   #13
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Two of the guys in the UK have camber bolts on with whiteline the other with the pro suspension kit and both where impressed with them.

At £40 i will forking out for a set so i can judge for myself
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Old 17-07-2004, 08:46 AM   #14
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If your stock system can adjust to your height you wont notice any difference
because there wont be. A wheel alignment is a wheel alignment.
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Old 13-08-2004, 11:34 PM   #15
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Is it just me, or is BigMal, a big pesimist?? I run camber pins on all four corners and it's helped me alot. Reduced tyre wear, helped with turn in, minimised some tyre roll, all in all I'm very happy!

And BTW MAL!, a wheel alignment is not always a wheel alignment! There is only one place I take my car to have the tyres pointing the right way, and that is Fulcrum. No where else have I found to take the A) time and B) care as they do!

And that be my 2cents!
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Old 14-08-2004, 11:54 AM   #16
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Not trying to be negative just trying to set the record straight that camber pins
by themselves are not a performance mod. I have used them for many years
and wouldn't be without them. I agree with you that not all places align the same
that was not what I meant, I take my car to only 2 places one is whiteline
themselves and the other is my local guy. I have the sheet from whiteline and
they align to those specs. So for me there is no difference between the 2. The
point I was trying to make though was that if you can get 4 deg negative camber
from the stock system and then you put in camber pins and align for 4 deg neg
with the pins in where is the difference ??

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Old 14-08-2004, 04:28 PM   #17
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Nicely put BigMal! I totally agree with all that you have just stated. It just wasn't coming across like that in your previous posts. Good to see we are on the same wave lenght
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Old 15-08-2004, 03:13 PM   #18
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All good mate. I am a Bastard it is usually intentional which the previous post
was not :twisted:

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Old 10-01-2005, 09:40 PM   #19
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Hey Nate, did you end up getting any??

I have to do something about getting some -ve camber on my setup...car has so much potential to handle or more precisely, steer into corners.

I've taken it to a race and wheel alignment expert here in newcaslte (alot of reputable workshops in the area use him) and he looked at it today and said there's nothing more I can do to get the wheel even a bee's dick into the -ve.

Been looking at the whiteline kit/bolts so far and they are resonable priced. I've been warned away from the Kmac ones. Anyone else have any other suggestions?
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Old 10-01-2005, 10:01 PM   #20
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pedders make em too.

You should look into the adjustable camber tops that k-mac do. heaps of adjustment available then!
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