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03-09-2006, 05:57 AM | #1 |
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ABOUT: Straight neck KLZE fits into a BA V6
Just want to say that the engine is in and straight neck fits in BA with minor modifications to intake and throttle/pulley..spread the word I used pulley form mx3 v6... no modifications needed to engine mounts but you could make new hole 1-1,5 cm lower in front engine mount and pull it forwards in that way you can get more space so millennia or eunos or whatever intake manifold is not needed.
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03-09-2006, 06:46 AM | #2 |
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Glad to hear its in
BTW whoever said the Millenia manifold was lower than the straight neck?? |
03-09-2006, 11:52 AM | #3 |
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i require pics now!!! jkz
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03-09-2006, 12:12 PM | #4 |
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Mr Obsessed, a pix would be highly appreciated.
A lot of interested ppl here. Cheers ! |
03-09-2006, 03:52 PM | #5 | |
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I filled my engine mounts with this product http://www.henkel-lim.dk/dk/productDetail.php?recid=367 The black one and the engine is rock solid.. IT WORKS. Just to be shore that it doesn’t bang on internals in the back of the car. I also was scared that the bonnet would not close (heard it on the forums) it closed with NO problems there is like 1.5-2 centimetres to the rod that goes over the engine to the shocks.. I forgot what its called in English ... I was so tired last night worked for 9 hours straight so the last thing i thought about was taking the pictures I will take some in short time don't worry I began on electric also connected most sensors. Just curious what did ppl do with the EGR stuff? The sensor and the pipe that goes to the back header it does not exists on ZE its something to do with recirculation to lower emissions right.. so can I pass emissions test without it? |
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04-09-2006, 02:54 AM | #6 |
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JUst remember that the curved neck flows better than the straight neck and also shifts you torque band a bit lower (more bottom end is always a good thing)
your rod from top of shocks is a strut brace And the EGR lines up to the back and underneath the curved neck manifold, I would assume this to be the same on the straight neck |
04-09-2006, 03:20 AM | #7 | |
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As I said don’t believe everything you read on the net. No there is no egr on straight neck. |
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05-09-2006, 02:31 AM | #8 | |
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http://www.alljapanesecars.com/specs...0&mc=ta5y&gn=1 Is that good enough for you Taken from http://www.alljapanesecars.com |
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05-09-2006, 07:07 AM | #9 | |
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For ppl waiting on the pics I will take some when I go back to the garage to finish work around exhaust, bore holes and fit axles etc. That will be friday hope to fire it up that day For now here are some pics i took during the swap Japanese extern disty Rebuild euro disty with headers Performance headers (There was problems when installing... front header should not be munted when dropping the engine in the car) Old tired engine it looks so small and sad compared to ZE There is a big hole in my car Modified pulley to overcome space probs... sorry for the quality i had makro acivated on my cam lol Difference between the 2 mx3 vs ZE. ZE's pulley bangs against the pump/container. A little adjustment here on the pump.. it must be bent a bit and it slides in no problems.. 15 sec. job. Thats all for now Last edited by Mr.Obsessed; 05-09-2006 at 07:55 AM. |
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09-09-2006, 05:07 AM | #10 |
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Here it is. I fired it up today for 20 sec run's ok.. but I have some VRIS and vacum problems as there are differences. Someone got system layout for 2.0 V6?? Vacum and/or VRIS?
Some pics Tell me what you think? But I am far from finished... |
10-09-2006, 04:58 AM | #11 |
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Why does it look like an incorrectly installed throttle cable in the last pic
We dont have clearance issues wth the Brake Master cylinder here as ours is on the drivers side |
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Oh yes I forgot that makes it even easier |
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11-09-2006, 08:03 AM | #13 |
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i probably have the system layout in the workshop manual.
but im moving house at the moment so it'll be a while before I dig my way through to the box that its in |
12-09-2006, 09:12 PM | #14 |
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That engine is freakin' sweet. If you've fitted it into a BAV6 will it fit in the 1.8? Or is that wishful thinking? I'm assuming the engine mounts are the same? But maybe i assumed wrong.
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13-09-2006, 03:47 PM | #15 |
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All the same through the K series engines (are you talking K8 v6 BTW)
4 cyl is a different kettle of fish |
13-09-2006, 04:08 PM | #16 |
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I'm confused.
Mr. Obsessed has put a KL-ZE 2.5L V6 in BA Astina 2.0L hatch. I wanna put the same engine into my BA 1.8 hatch. Has it been done before? Is it possible? The two cars are very similar, but are the engine mounts the same? Thanks. |
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13-09-2006, 04:33 PM | #18 |
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there must be stuff we can do to the stock 1.8 engine to mod it(other then turbo etc) then to pull some more out???
or is it just best to buy the V6 all round?? |
13-09-2006, 04:54 PM | #19 |
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when buying a BA astina, the difference in price of the second hand models is so small its makes the v6 the best buy in my opinion.
there is plenty you can do with the 4cyl to get more power out. The question really is - is it worth the price ? |
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You should actually put it down too. Do want turbo or not.
Because simpley once you bolt in the largest most powerfull N/A v6 the 2.5L Ze - where do you go to get more ? - yes I know you will say this that this and that but, How much for Cam's ECU - how much gain. Not many V6's going N/A making much more then 220HP flywheel. Most problery onyl making 210HP flywheel here in Australia. with what 250NM ? Now with the BP you giving away an easy 700cc or so. but using the BPT you easliy get the torque with an exhaust fitted. But once you get 220HP out of the BPT at flywheel which is not much really for BPT. When you do go further which has been done and is easily achived. you do run into a common problem ? GEARBOX. which even with 220HP at the flywheel you would have run into by then or maybe not so but you will do so Now you might say yeah but V6 is cheaper - IS IT ? no conversion is cheap. I've mostly only been on RWd conversion with the odd FWD here and there but in most cases i've always said why not buy it in the first place. for example cost a of BA v6 versus GE Mx-6/626. if you want a KL-ZE the Mx-6 626 is much easier swap and - the weight penltey on 626 hatch is not much (Mx-6 is alot lighter) especially if you add in the fact you move up to a nicer bigger car versus the BA. I have BA sorry they are cheap in comaprisson to the 626 series. Even the older 626 has much better feel, but yet old. but look at the current 2nd hand prices, I'm not putting down anyone doing it. In fact I say GOOD ON YA. If I had the time and was not restricted to turbo only ( I'm stuck with turbo or V8) Well I might do it. but as I don't use the Astina, I bought it for my mother to use. I t can stay but I do look out for a KL-ZE auto package. Next thing Supercharge it or if you want Turbo the bastard |
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