Second hand DSLR

bourbon · 22-07-2009, 01:41 PM

ok dudes & dudettes...

im looking at getting a DSLR. ive been offered a Nikon D40X with the standard 18mm-55mm lens & bag & 2gb card for $500.

im not a big fan of the Nikon (never owned or used one really).

but ive been looking at the Canon 350D/400D/450D or even the 500D...keeping an eye on some on ebay...i dont really wanna spend over the $500 mark...

i love my Canon powershot IS S3 and the ease of using a canon is why im leaning towards one.

what are your guys opinions on them.

want to do sport photography, cars/bikes (shows and racing [circuit & drags]), landscapes & funky city shots

kaz wants me to get into wedding photography cause theres lots of money in it but not too sure...

Rix · 22-07-2009, 01:49 PM

I've used Canon's and i have found they have great quality and they are easy to used compared to Nikon.

70NYD · 22-07-2009, 01:55 PM

i have to say completly oposite, iv used a nikon d60 and a d90 at my gfs sisters wedding just for fun and the clarity is amazing. truly captured the moments no matter how fast someone waved their hands.. and what really impressed me is the speed at which it took shots in succesion. just remember iphone vs nokia

hehe
if anything use a mates nikon if u get a chance, that way u can compare it for your self

bourbon · 22-07-2009, 02:00 PM

well im borring my brothers nikon d40x atm to see if i like it and if i do ill be buyin it off of him...but atm i dont really know how to focus properly...so i like the auto focus thing on the canons where its in most lenses...but the nikon doesnt havnt it built in and the lenses that you buy are manual focus only :@

i wanna go out taking photos this weekend withit...

if i could id love to try out a canon dslr too...

lambs · 22-07-2009, 02:02 PM

I have D90 and it's a great camera. We have also used Nikon at work for years (D1, D2, D200 plus others) although for film photography we used Olympus OM series (eg OM4Ti) as well as 120 and large format cameras (Sinar).

I looked at a 400D and it's probably a very good camera but the thing that put me off was that the camera body was far too light and 'plasticy'...same for the lenses, which were constructed almost like a kids toy. No offence to the Canon fans....just not my idea of a semi-professional camera

bourbon · 22-07-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lambs

I looked at a 400D and it's probably a very good camera but the thing that put me off was that the camera body was far too light and 'plasticy'...same for the lenses, which were constructed almost like a kids toy. No offence to the Canon fans....just not my idea of a semi-professional camera

as far as i knew the 300d was all plastic but the 350d onwards were built with more metal ???

Noddinoff · 22-07-2009, 02:28 PM

My brother in law swears by the Nikon.....he liked them so much he just ponied up $2800 to buy 2 more just last month for his business. Although he doesn't use them for action shots. I guess ultimately it comes down to personal prefference, and an understanding of their workings and budget of course. I personally favour Pentax.

lambs · 22-07-2009, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bourbon

as far as i knew the 300d was all plastic but the 350d onwards were built with more metal ???

May well be the case, it was just a 'feeling' I had when I was handling it.

lambs · 22-07-2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noddinoff

I personally favour Pentax.

Good camera's. Still got my ME super in the cupboard somewhere.

bourbon · 22-07-2009, 03:16 PM

just been told on another forum that the canon has a faster autofocus & would be better suited for sport shots & automotive stuff...

Rix · 22-07-2009, 03:31 PM

Yep i agree with whoever told u that

schwinn · 22-07-2009, 04:30 PM

I've got a Nikon d90 and autofocus with live view is absolute sh**. Of course I'm more of a view finder user (where focus is a lot faster, but I dunno how compared to Canon). Only ever use manual focus if I want a soft focus. I do love the video capture (not the mono sound though)

With the strict budget this should be a great starting point. Also not too much to spend in case you want to change systems and go to Canon.

IMHO Canon and Nikon is just similar to PS3 vs XBOX, both are great camera makers with great lenses.

project.r.racing · 22-07-2009, 06:51 PM

We use Nikon D200s D300s D700s Fuji S5s (not in the $500 budget lol) and other random stuff. I like them but they do have difficult menus to navigate.

Canons I find have much easier stuff to use. The focus server is inside the lense (only a little faster) compared to Nikons, but honestly it means nothing. In the end, they do the same job.

I personally prefer Canon, but Nikon are awesome also.

Also you will need another lense too. As a 18-55mm f/3.5f-5.6 lense will not have the zoom or low appiture capability you may require for curcuit racing pics.

If you need some photography lessons and are willing to drive a little. Come up to the Sunny Coast and we'll go through some details.

These 2 pics were taken on a Canon 350D. Dunno how the colour will be on various members screens.

Rally car was traveling at 80kph. Good sharp focused shoot.

Sugar cane pic has had no colour correction. As is as the camera saved it.

bourbon · 22-07-2009, 07:39 PM

yeah well im leaning towards the canon 400d...if i can get 450d i will...im trying to get a twin lens kit in the canon which comes with the 80-200mm lense as well im pretty sure...

and yes ryan i would love photography lessons

i was thinking of doing a course after iget my self a nice camera...

project.r.racing · 22-07-2009, 07:46 PM

are 400Ds still available? 2nd hand?

cannon regular twin lense kits normally are 18-55mm and 75-300mm. but the 300mm lenses in the kit have focusing issues above 200mm.

bourbon · 22-07-2009, 07:50 PM

im keeping an eye on these :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=320401513315
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=320401520031
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=180385196322
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=230358188835

PS. if anyone knows of anyone selling a DSLR like the canon please let me know!

chicaboo · 22-07-2009, 07:57 PM

Bonbon: Nikon make great cameras too, but the D40 has a restriction on what lenses you can run. They use very expensive AF-S series lenses that cost more than double what a typical lens, due to having the focus motor inside the lens. The 18-55mm AF-S lens is great, but you will be wanting a higher spec lens before you know it...

Long time,
Gav.

bourbon · 22-07-2009, 08:00 PM

yeah my main reason why leaning towards the canon...plus i like canon a bit more

chicaboo · 22-07-2009, 08:10 PM

Before you become a f4n801 for a certain brand, it's wroth getting your hands on an example of both brands that you can afford, and see which one is more suitable for you or easier to use.

Gav.

Ghoru · 22-07-2009, 08:34 PM

you should be able to rock up to harvey norman ect ect and give them a trial run instore, cant get 80kph instore but hey it might help

22-07-2009, 01:41 PM	#1
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	Second hand DSLR ok dudes & dudettes... im looking at getting a DSLR. ive been offered a Nikon D40X with the standard 18mm-55mm lens & bag & 2gb card for $500. im not a big fan of the Nikon (never owned or used one really). but ive been looking at the Canon 350D/400D/450D or even the 500D...keeping an eye on some on ebay...i dont really wanna spend over the $500 mark... i love my Canon powershot IS S3 and the ease of using a canon is why im leaning towards one. what are your guys opinions on them. want to do sport photography, cars/bikes (shows and racing [circuit & drags]), landscapes & funky city shots kaz wants me to get into wedding photography cause theres lots of money in it but not too sure... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

22-07-2009, 01:49 PM	#2
Rix Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunshine Coast Car: 1997 Mazda Astina Ba Posts: 1,205 View Photos By: Rix	I've used Canon's and i have found they have great quality and they are easy to used compared to Nikon. __________________

22-07-2009, 01:55 PM	#3
70NYD Veni, vidi, vici Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1996 BA Hatch & 2005 RX8 Posts: 4,911 View Photos By: 70NYD	i have to say completly oposite, iv used a nikon d60 and a d90 at my gfs sisters wedding just for fun and the clarity is amazing. truly captured the moments no matter how fast someone waved their hands.. and what really impressed me is the speed at which it took shots in succesion. just remember iphone vs nokia hehe if anything use a mates nikon if u get a chance, that way u can compare it for your self __________________

22-07-2009, 02:00 PM	#4
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	well im borring my brothers nikon d40x atm to see if i like it and if i do ill be buyin it off of him...but atm i dont really know how to focus properly...so i like the auto focus thing on the canons where its in most lenses...but the nikon doesnt havnt it built in and the lenses that you buy are manual focus only :@ i wanna go out taking photos this weekend withit... if i could id love to try out a canon dslr too... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735 Last edited by bourbon; 22-07-2009 at 02:02 PM.

22-07-2009, 02:02 PM	#5
lambs Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne Car: R32 GTR, 260Z, BMW K100 Posts: 107	I have D90 and it's a great camera. We have also used Nikon at work for years (D1, D2, D200 plus others) although for film photography we used Olympus OM series (eg OM4Ti) as well as 120 and large format cameras (Sinar). I looked at a 400D and it's probably a very good camera but the thing that put me off was that the camera body was far too light and 'plasticy'...same for the lenses, which were constructed almost like a kids toy. No offence to the Canon fans....just not my idea of a semi-professional camera Last edited by lambs; 22-07-2009 at 04:48 PM.

22-07-2009, 02:28 PM	#7
Noddinoff Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Albury Car: AE86 Supercharged, Astina BA11F3, Honda Accord Posts: 51	My brother in law swears by the Nikon.....he liked them so much he just ponied up $2800 to buy 2 more just last month for his business. Although he doesn't use them for action shots. I guess ultimately it comes down to personal prefference, and an understanding of their workings and budget of course. I personally favour Pentax. __________________ Sometimes faeces makes contact with the rotating oscillator.

22-07-2009, 03:16 PM	#10
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	just been told on another forum that the canon has a faster autofocus & would be better suited for sport shots & automotive stuff... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

22-07-2009, 03:31 PM	#11
Rix Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunshine Coast Car: 1997 Mazda Astina Ba Posts: 1,205 View Photos By: Rix	Yep i agree with whoever told u that __________________

22-07-2009, 04:30 PM	#12
schwinn Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Adelaide, SA Car: Astina BA11F1 Posts: 126	I've got a Nikon d90 and autofocus with live view is absolute sh**. Of course I'm more of a view finder user (where focus is a lot faster, but I dunno how compared to Canon). Only ever use manual focus if I want a soft focus. I do love the video capture (not the mono sound though) With the strict budget this should be a great starting point. Also not too much to spend in case you want to change systems and go to Canon. IMHO Canon and Nikon is just similar to PS3 vs XBOX, both are great camera makers with great lenses.

22-07-2009, 06:51 PM	#13
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	We use Nikon D200s D300s D700s Fuji S5s (not in the $500 budget lol) and other random stuff. I like them but they do have difficult menus to navigate. Canons I find have much easier stuff to use. The focus server is inside the lense (only a little faster) compared to Nikons, but honestly it means nothing. In the end, they do the same job. I personally prefer Canon, but Nikon are awesome also. Also you will need another lense too. As a 18-55mm f/3.5f-5.6 lense will not have the zoom or low appiture capability you may require for curcuit racing pics. If you need some photography lessons and are willing to drive a little. Come up to the Sunny Coast and we'll go through some details. These 2 pics were taken on a Canon 350D. Dunno how the colour will be on various members screens. Rally car was traveling at 80kph. Good sharp focused shoot. Sugar cane pic has had no colour correction. As is as the camera saved it.

22-07-2009, 07:39 PM	#14
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	yeah well im leaning towards the canon 400d...if i can get 450d i will...im trying to get a twin lens kit in the canon which comes with the 80-200mm lense as well im pretty sure... and yes ryan i would love photography lessons i was thinking of doing a course after iget my self a nice camera... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

22-07-2009, 07:46 PM	#15
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	are 400Ds still available? 2nd hand? cannon regular twin lense kits normally are 18-55mm and 75-300mm. but the 300mm lenses in the kit have focusing issues above 200mm. Last edited by bourbon; 22-07-2009 at 07:50 PM.

22-07-2009, 07:50 PM	#16
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	im keeping an eye on these : http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=320401513315 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=320401520031 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=180385196322 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=230358188835 PS. if anyone knows of anyone selling a DSLR like the canon please let me know! __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

22-07-2009, 07:57 PM	#17
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	Bonbon: Nikon make great cameras too, but the D40 has a restriction on what lenses you can run. They use very expensive AF-S series lenses that cost more than double what a typical lens, due to having the focus motor inside the lens. The 18-55mm AF-S lens is great, but you will be wanting a higher spec lens before you know it... Long time, Gav.

22-07-2009, 08:00 PM	#18
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	yeah my main reason why leaning towards the canon...plus i like canon a bit more __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

22-07-2009, 08:10 PM	#19
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	Before you become a f4n801 for a certain brand, it's wroth getting your hands on an example of both brands that you can afford, and see which one is more suitable for you or easier to use. Gav.

22-07-2009, 08:34 PM	#20
Ghoru Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Rockhampton Car: '92 BG Astina Sp Posts: 999 View Photos By: Ghoru	you should be able to rock up to harvey norman ect ect and give them a trial run instore, cant get 80kph instore but hey it might help __________________ BG Astina - work in progress.... Scooters are like fat chicks, fun to ride until your mates find out... NOS is like a hot chick with AIDS, you know you wanna hit that,your just afraid of the consequences... http://www.eveonline.com/