FSZE Intake Manifold swap problems - Page 2

Orion · 03-10-2012, 08:55 AM

Check what TPS values you are getting - you can do this without running the engine.

If the Microtech is not reading the TPS correctly, then it won't know when to use the idle maps. Possibly why it will run under load but not when you take your foot off the throttle.

TheMAN · 03-10-2012, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhys

There's only one way you can put it on..?

the manifold to head gasket (green gasket) can be put on both ways, but it must be installed one way

the beaded side must face the manifold, while the smooth side faces the head

the manifold also must be bolted on tight first (at 22Nm) before you put on the support bracket underneath... if you don't do this, the support bracket will force the manifold out of alignment

if you disassembled the manifold, the steel plenum gasket also is directional... the beaded side MUST face upwards, towards the intake runners... they also must be tightened to 22Nm

there's also a large rubber o'ring in the resonator box... if it's bad then obviously there's going to be leaks... the resonator box is glued together, so if it's cracked or broken, you will have issues obviously

maztech · 03-10-2012, 06:22 PM

LOL this has been going on now for days, that's why there are people called mechanics , good reason why not to try to fix what you shouldn't touch yourself.
Microtech is crap .

TheMAN · 03-10-2012, 06:25 PM

wise words from jared

if you don't have experience or resources on hand (shop manual), one shouldn't take on complicated things

maztech · 03-10-2012, 06:40 PM

I think the main word you just mentioned in EXPERIENCE.

Why do people think they are a mechanic stick to what you have been trained in or is your job.

AS IT COSTS MORE TO HAVE IT FIXED AFTER YOU STUFF IT.

Every car I have touched off this place has had stuff wrong with it , I have either fixed it or told the owner how or what to fix.

Rhys you need to LISTEN to people with the experience and stop being a cheap arse hero and trying things yourself .
You doing a manifold swap is a very silly move there is a lot that can go wrong and what you need to look out for .
Now you have proberly stuffed with things you shouldn't have touched and made things worse.

No one can fix this car over a forum , sometime things need to be looked at by a trained person to be fixed.

Rhys · 03-10-2012, 06:48 PM

Haha I didn't think it was that hard =)
Next time I'll leave things like that to the mechanics.

edit: Just trying to do something by myself and learn something.. no need for a personal attack. Yes, it was a stupid idea in hindsight but it's all about learning.

TheMAN · 03-10-2012, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maztech

I think the main word you just mentioned in EXPERIENCE.

Why do people think they are a mechanic stick to what you have been trained in or is your job.

AS IT COSTS MORE TO HAVE IT FIXED AFTER YOU STUFF IT.

Every car I have touched off this place has had stuff wrong with it , I have either fixed it or told the owner how or what to fix.

Rhys you need to LISTEN to people with the experience and stop being a cheap arse hero and trying things yourself .
You doing a manifold swap is a very silly move there is a lot that can go wrong and what you need to look out for .
Now you have proberly stuffed with things you shouldn't have touched and made things worse.

No one can fix this car over a forum , sometime things need to be looked at by a trained person to be fixed.

hey mate, everyone has to start somewhere to learn... we learn by our mistakes, we are human

I did the manifold swap myself 10 years ago... I managed to break the knock sensor, but did I learn something? sure thing! overall my swap went smoothly as I carefully followed the shop manual... I didn't dare touch anything that was more complicated than changing the oil without a shop manual

Clean_Cookie · 03-10-2012, 08:17 PM

Personally an intake swap seems relatively simple...bolt on etc. It's the fact an AM ecu is involved at the same time makes it doubly confusing. If possible, can you try just using the stock ecu?

As for the DIY stuff, while we've all made mistakes, myself included, its been fun and worthwhile. You'll get it sorted some time soon Rhys I'm sure, two paths. The take to mechanic and fix quickly and whatnot or tear your hair out DIY way.... What are you rich in . Time and patience or money

rogerstrampoline · 04-10-2012, 04:53 AM

Yeah only way to learn is to do it yourself...that way if something goes wrong you have some idea when its something small that could save you money....but still gotta agree with jared, especially when a microtech is involved that hasn't been tuned yet. I wouldn't be driving the car at all without a tune

03-10-2012, 08:55 AM	#21
Orion SP20 Member! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Car: Mazda SP20 sedan Posts: 1,769 View Photos By: Orion	Check what TPS values you are getting - you can do this without running the engine. If the Microtech is not reading the TPS correctly, then it won't know when to use the idle maps. Possibly why it will run under load but not when you take your foot off the throttle. __________________ Exhaust: Autoexe headers; Custom midpipe; Racing Beat catback Engine: AWR mounts; Twiggy cams; Custom CAI; RR Racing UDP; Mishimoto rad EMS: Microtech LT-10; J&S Safeguard; Gearbox: MSP LSD; Fidanza flywheel; 5th gear Rims/Suspension: MX-5 rims; Tokico Illuminas; Eibach Pro-kit; Progress RSB; AutoExe STB Exterior: MSP front lip & rear spoiler; Matt V headlights; AutoExe grill; EDM tails Interior: JVC AVX-77; Autometer gauges; DaveBs; B&M shifter Projects to come: Engine rebuild

03-10-2012, 06:25 PM	#24
TheMAN Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Car: . Posts: 2,623	wise words from jared if you don't have experience or resources on hand (shop manual), one shouldn't take on complicated things __________________ Protege FAQ, the best 323/Protege/Mazda3 resource enjoyed worldwide for 10 years

03-10-2012, 06:40 PM	#25
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	I think the main word you just mentioned in EXPERIENCE. Why do people think they are a mechanic stick to what you have been trained in or is your job. AS IT COSTS MORE TO HAVE IT FIXED AFTER YOU STUFF IT. Every car I have touched off this place has had stuff wrong with it , I have either fixed it or told the owner how or what to fix. Rhys you need to LISTEN to people with the experience and stop being a cheap arse hero and trying things yourself . You doing a manifold swap is a very silly move there is a lot that can go wrong and what you need to look out for . Now you have proberly stuffed with things you shouldn't have touched and made things worse. No one can fix this car over a forum , sometime things need to be looked at by a trained person to be fixed. Last edited by maztech; 03-10-2012 at 06:47 PM.

03-10-2012, 06:48 PM	#26
Rhys Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Brisbane, QLD Car: 2000 BJ Protege Posts: 714	Haha I didn't think it was that hard =) Next time I'll leave things like that to the mechanics. edit: Just trying to do something by myself and learn something.. no need for a personal attack. Yes, it was a stupid idea in hindsight but it's all about learning. Last edited by Rhys; 03-10-2012 at 07:10 PM.

03-10-2012, 08:17 PM	#28
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	Personally an intake swap seems relatively simple...bolt on etc. It's the fact an AM ecu is involved at the same time makes it doubly confusing. If possible, can you try just using the stock ecu? As for the DIY stuff, while we've all made mistakes, myself included, its been fun and worthwhile. You'll get it sorted some time soon Rhys I'm sure, two paths. The take to mechanic and fix quickly and whatnot or tear your hair out DIY way.... What are you rich in . Time and patience or money __________________ Worklog

03-10-2012, 06:22 PM	#23
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	LOL this has been going on now for days, that's why there are people called mechanics , good reason why not to try to fix what you shouldn't touch yourself. Microtech is crap .

04-10-2012, 04:53 AM	#29
rogerstrampoline AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: south brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina SP Posts: 365 View Photos By: rogerstrampoline	Yeah only way to learn is to do it yourself...that way if something goes wrong you have some idea when its something small that could save you money....but still gotta agree with jared, especially when a microtech is involved that hasn't been tuned yet. I wouldn't be driving the car at all without a tune