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Old 22-02-2010, 02:36 AM   #1
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Unhappy Help :( Car Dead!

So i was driving along Canning Hwy, everything hunky dory when my engine cuts out when shifting from 3rd to 4th. Just like that.

Managed to roll safely into a side street, but she refused to start after cutting out.

A rolling start was ineffective.
Engine turns over but won't fire at all
Battery voltage is fine
Fuses all look intact
Fuel pump works

Any suggestions where to start looking from here?

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Old 22-02-2010, 05:24 AM   #2
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dizzy? (ignition module) Has the car been missing a bit lately or bogging down under load? Getting worse over short time?
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Old 22-02-2010, 06:30 AM   #3
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have you fitted the sri? Checked to see if the rubber pipe going from the Intkae Manifold hasnt slipped off by accident, had this happen on my cai...
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Old 22-02-2010, 09:43 AM   #4
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dizzy? (ignition module) Has the car been missing a bit lately or bogging down under load? Getting worse over short time?

i don't think mine has a dizzy, it's got the coil packs mounted directly over the plugs, not sure how i'd test these for function, or even what's electrically upstream from them.

other than that, it was a very spontaneous death, no warning signs that i noticed, although perhaps it was a bit sluggish earlier in the day
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Old 22-02-2010, 09:45 AM   #5
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have you fitted the sri? Checked to see if the rubber pipe going from the Intkae Manifold hasnt slipped off by accident, had this happen on my cai...
nah not yet it's still rolling around in my boot. all tubing is intact though, throughout the area
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Old 22-02-2010, 09:52 AM   #6
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i don't think mine has a dizzy, it's got the coil packs mounted directly over the plugs, not sure how i'd test these for function, or even what's electrically upstream from them.
it wont be the coils. as 1 would die, only 1 cylinder would not function.

fuel delivery or power supply to the coils would be where i'd be looking at.
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Old 22-02-2010, 10:07 AM   #7
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it wont be the coils. as 1 would die, only 1 cylinder would not function.

fuel delivery or power supply to the coils would be where i'd be looking at.
that's what i was thinking, fuel is fine up to the injector rail, i just don't know how to go about testing for injector function or what to check on the power supply side of the coils
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Old 22-02-2010, 12:07 PM   #8
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have a look at the timing belt. When my show astina had the standard engine in it. Was driving around and felt the car die without any warning. No spark but everything was working. Found out the timing belt had snapped.
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Old 22-02-2010, 12:18 PM   #9
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I had something like that happen to me late last year, turned out to be one of the main fuses had blow, who knows why, there must have been some dodgy wiring which shorted out.

I'd be looking at electrical because it seems strange that it stopped all of a sudden, normal most mechanical items go gradually or make a stange noise before failing. might be worth checking battery terminal are connected properly and just basics like that?
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Old 22-02-2010, 12:50 PM   #10
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have a look at the timing belt. When my show astina had the standard engine in it. Was driving around and felt the car die without any warning. No spark but everything was working. Found out the timing belt had snapped.
Hadn't thought to check belts, will do so when i get home


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Old 22-02-2010, 12:51 PM   #11
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I had something like that happen to me late last year, turned out to be one of the main fuses had blow, who knows why, there must have been some dodgy wiring which shorted out.

I'd be looking at electrical because it seems strange that it stopped all of a sudden, normal most mechanical items go gradually or make a stange noise before failing. might be worth checking battery terminal are connected properly and just basics like that?
yeah it certain does seem electrical, fuses were all visually ok, and the relays all clicked when they should, i haven't had a chance to put a meter to anything yet, which will hopefully reveal things
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Old 22-02-2010, 12:59 PM   #12
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Old 22-02-2010, 01:38 PM   #13
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+1 for timing belt.
I'm getting excited perfect opportunity to advance the timing if it is the belt
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Old 22-02-2010, 09:36 PM   #14
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nothing so glamorous. was just the main relay going intermittent.

so off to the shops tomorrow morning to buy a new one
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Old 25-02-2010, 07:53 PM   #15
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Curses! That didn't appear to fix it. Intermittent still.
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:29 PM   #16
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so,how about your car now...
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:46 PM   #17
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well, i thought it turned out to be one of the connections to the batter as it was loose, and upon tightening, the car behaved fine for a month.


but just this week it went into limp mode while i was driving to work, This time though, the computer gave me a DTC indicating that the Camshaft Sensor was awry, Again though, limp mode was intermittent and it came good for most of the rest of the drive.


However it cut out again completely just as i was pulling into my neighbourhood.

I'm stumped. I'm hoping this symptom is related to the cam sensor but i'm skeptical because it didn't give me the error before when it was doing this.

so i'm worried it's a couple of wires in the loom that are dodgy.

however, i've booked it into Mazda for monday and hopefully they'll be able to sort it out for me.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:07 PM   #18
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Actually im also facing problems with my car ( lantis h/b 1.6m,1996 )
Engine can crank but dont want to start. Upon checking all four plug there is no fire and fuel pump also not function. I have change distributor 2x but still same.
Can you told me where is the camshaft sensor and main relay was located...
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:34 PM   #19
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if you're not getting fuel or spark, i'd say the cam sensor is not to blame. the main relay is in the fuse box under the bonnet, for me it was the green relay, but as we have different models, yours may be different. relay locations are given in the user manual for the car, if you don't have that, try asking on the forums, there's heaps of helpful members more familia (sic) with your model
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ok, thank you very much...
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