Audio help please! - Page 2

Critter · 22-01-2003, 08:50 PM

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ost_uid0]The SP20 has the rather curious combo of 5x7s in front doors and 6.5" dia in rear doors.

A 6.5" can be put in the front with the use of an mdf spacer as an adaptor. A 6x9 is a NO WAY proposition. Sorry, supergirl, that won't happen.

Any "adapting" in the front doors will most likely require a bit of slicing the inner of the door trim. That is, there is a moulding on the inside of the door trim which fits exactly around the 5x7 speaker so to use anything else esp something with a longer throw (like my Morels with 3" voice coils....) you need to do this.
No biggie, just a Stanley knife and 30 seconds....

As for sub bass, there is bass and there is bass.
Done properly, it should complement and integrate with the rest of the sound of the system, NOT overpower it.

A pair of 7x10s on rear shelf AND a sub is just plain stupid in my opinion. Rear speakers should just be "fill", the front speakers are the Main Attraction and provide stage and image.

A correctly set up system should integrate well enough that the sub bass will appear to come out of the front footwells even tho the enclosure is mounted in the boot/hatch. All in the installation.

And yes, mine does

And the effect is awesome, once heard cannot be lived without.[/color

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MrShadow · 22-01-2003, 09:27 PM

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ost_uid0]Totally agree Critter, that's the type of setup I'm gunning for. I don't want the bass overpowering everything, just complimenting the standard speakers.[/color

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Rupewrecht · 22-01-2003, 10:06 PM

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ost_uid0]what little bass i had has now disappeared at anything over an idle...

so here starts the "buy daniel stereo gear and he'll let you have a ride in WRECHT" fund :

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Dogo · 23-01-2003, 12:25 AM

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oh, hold me back

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Critter · 23-01-2003, 06:32 AM

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ost_uid0]Daniel invests in sound-deadening

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Rupewrecht · 23-01-2003, 09:04 PM

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ost_uid0]heh true. i ws going to ask what brand anyone reccommends/has used but i'll start a new topic...[/color

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kyra · 23-01-2003, 11:46 PM

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ost_uid0]but you only need it when you put 50 subwoofdoofs in your car.... who needs subs??!!!!

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22-01-2003, 08:50 PM	#21
Critter Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winmalee NSW Car: SP20 Posts: 690 View Photos By: Critter	[color=#000000ost_uid0]The SP20 has the rather curious combo of 5x7s in front doors and 6.5" dia in rear doors. A 6.5" can be put in the front with the use of an mdf spacer as an adaptor. A 6x9 is a NO WAY proposition. Sorry, supergirl, that won't happen. Any "adapting" in the front doors will most likely require a bit of slicing the inner of the door trim. That is, there is a moulding on the inside of the door trim which fits exactly around the 5x7 speaker so to use anything else esp something with a longer throw (like my Morels with 3" voice coils....) you need to do this. No biggie, just a Stanley knife and 30 seconds.... As for sub bass, there is bass and there is bass. Done properly, it should complement and integrate with the rest of the sound of the system, NOT overpower it. A pair of 7x10s on rear shelf AND a sub is just plain stupid in my opinion. Rear speakers should just be "fill", the front speakers are the Main Attraction and provide stage and image. A correctly set up system should integrate well enough that the sub bass will appear to come out of the front footwells even tho the enclosure is mounted in the boot/hatch. All in the installation. And yes, mine does And the effect is awesome, once heard cannot be lived without.[/colorost_uid0] __________________ 2001 Astina SP20 Precision Power / Pioneer P9 sound system with Directed widescreen video Custom graphics and leather interior Adjustable lowered suspension with monster brakes

22-01-2003, 09:27 PM	#22
MrShadow Senior Time-waster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Airborne somewhere in Aus... Car: 2005 SP23 Hatch Posts: 1,779 View Photos By: MrShadow	[color=#000000ost_uid0]Totally agree Critter, that's the type of setup I'm gunning for. I don't want the bass overpowering everything, just complimenting the standard speakers.[/colorost_uid0] __________________ Gimme a caffeine drip and I'll be right.... Confuscias say "man who go to sleep with itchy bottom, wake up with smelly finger"

22-01-2003, 10:06 PM	#23
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	[color=#000000ost_uid0]what little bass i had has now disappeared at anything over an idle... so here starts the "buy daniel stereo gear and he'll let you have a ride in WRECHT" fund ::[/colorost_uid0] __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

23-01-2003, 12:25 AM	#24
Dogo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melb, Aus Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant Posts: 3,459 View Photos By: Dogo	[color=#000000ost_uid0]:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: oh, hold me back [/colorost_uid0] __________________ [ Turbo BA ] see my readers ride

23-01-2003, 06:32 AM	#25
Critter Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winmalee NSW Car: SP20 Posts: 690 View Photos By: Critter	[color=#000000ost_uid0]Daniel invests in sound-deadening [/colorost_uid0] __________________ 2001 Astina SP20 Precision Power / Pioneer P9 sound system with Directed widescreen video Custom graphics and leather interior Adjustable lowered suspension with monster brakes

23-01-2003, 09:04 PM	#26
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	[color=#000000ost_uid0]heh true. i ws going to ask what brand anyone reccommends/has used but i'll start a new topic...[/colorost_uid0] __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

23-01-2003, 11:46 PM	#27
kyra AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: East Doncaster, Victoria Posts: 485	[color=#000000ost_uid0]but you only need it when you put 50 subwoofdoofs in your car.... who needs subs??!!!! [/colorost_uid0] __________________ and THAT. http://www.astinagt.com/readers/ride.php?userid=kyra

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