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derb · 09-05-2012, 09:55 AM

That's if you rebuld the motor. Should be half that if all you're doing is swapping parts between your car and a half cut.

Clean_Cookie · 09-05-2012, 10:19 AM

I bought from him, good seller (justin) im assuming that's who youve linked to. $2k would get you a running motor in your car...for how long before spending wads of cash is anyone's guess.

Edit: if your name is your birthday then don't bother doing the swap yet. Spend the money on suspension, brakes and general improvements.

derb · 09-05-2012, 10:37 AM

Mine is still going strong with 267,000km on the engine and 380,000km on the chassis. I've been boosting it at 13psi since I got it 3.5 years ago and it drinks no coolant or oil. I've cooked the motor 3 goddamn times and the headgasket is still going strong. These aren't exactly crap motors.

Dansta323 · 09-05-2012, 11:25 AM

Welcome

Good to see some one else With a "90" BG

Alexander93 · 09-05-2012, 01:11 PM

i just want to do a straight swap in the engines... that way i have a project to drive for when i get off my p's in a couple of months.
with the electronics side of the engine... would i need new stuff.. or would the old stuff still connect?

derb · 09-05-2012, 01:47 PM

What 'stuff' are you talking about? Are you talking about the wiring in the engine bay [the loom]? If you're talking about plugging the BPT into your current loom, no it won't work. But if you get the loom with the engine, yes it will work. The BPT has more/different sensors than a BP so it wont drop in unless you transfer the loom or hack the hell out of your BP one which is a pain in the arse.

Alexander93 · 09-05-2012, 02:38 PM

yes, thats what i meant, sorry. how hard is it to attach this loom to the BP set up?

derb · 09-05-2012, 02:56 PM

You need to remove the BP loom entirely. As in, disconnect all the plugs in the engine bay, disconnect the ECU behind the centre console, and drag the whole thing out of the car. That's what we refer to as the 'loom' when we say that. So you get your BPT loom that should come with the engine, and feed it back into the car the reverse way you took the original out. Then plug in the right ECU behind the centre condole [JDM version is better than ADM Ford Laser version. More power as its set to run on 98ron fuel, the laser runs on 91ron] and connect the plugs to their right places on the engine/in the bay. Make sense?

Clean_Cookie · 09-05-2012, 03:03 PM

See my photos. Actually, see my workshop (or mess of cars and parts. I can show you what's required etc if you're keen. Oh you're in nsw. Oops.

Alexander93 · 10-05-2012, 10:02 AM

oh, yeh makes heaps of sense derb! Thanks mate! i still have to figure it out visualy though. i can read it and understand it with no issues, but when it comes to doing it, its a whole different ball game.

clean cookie, mate, where you located?

BG1.8sp · 10-05-2012, 10:35 AM

His info says Brisbane....
So I am going to guess there! Lol

derb · 10-05-2012, 10:46 AM

His garage is down at Regents Park, but I'll let him give you the details.

Alexander93 · 10-05-2012, 12:57 PM

Haha oopz, didnt see his details. That may or may not be a tad too far

Clean_Cookie · 10-05-2012, 02:15 PM

I've got all the parts laid out ready to go in, so i can take some photos for you. But a hell of a lot easier in person that's for sure.

derb · 10-05-2012, 02:24 PM

Just upload them in raw format, then he can zoom to his heart's content.

rogerstrampoline · 10-05-2012, 02:25 PM

I'll be running my BP wiring just gotta splice in a new wire for the 4 point TPS and change the2L wire to 2M.....but mine is a bit different as I'm using the BP motor and putting the bpt parts onto it....only problem is the knock sensors not being in use. Depends on hoe much you wanna spend, I spent ages sourcing parts and got everything for just over $1000 for entire kit including fmic etc. But up to you, like derb has done I would just drop a bpt in, much safer for the engine

Alexander93 · 12-05-2012, 02:08 AM

Sounds like some hard work roger!

And sure! Some photos would be helpful! Thanks!

Clean_Cookie · 12-05-2012, 07:37 AM

I don't have a camera derb. I've never owned one!

Also, did you get new pistons and rods rodger? Or just bolt ons? I paid about $850 for loom ecu, turbo pistons cams and intercooler.

rogerstrampoline · 18-05-2012, 07:56 PM

Nah just bolt ons....for $1000 I got:
Jdm ecu
Loom
Fmic
Full piping with ssq bov
Intake manifold
Exhaust manifold
Dump pipe
Vj20 turbo (no shaft play) with all exhaust housing etc
All heat shields
Oil sump with drain
330cc injectors
Coolant line
Oil feed line with banjo bolt
Silicone hose connectors
All gaskets
Gtx AFM and hose
And probably.more I can't remember....only.gonna run 8psi due to high compression and may get bpt cams to help

May even be getting a spare engine to bolt all on and do the swap...but we'll see. In any case you need help with a BG go to derb hahaha he knows his ****

Alexander93 · 25-05-2012, 07:26 AM

Woah! Whered you pick that all up from?

Im still looking for the engine itself.. one place had it and sold it within two days.

09-05-2012, 10:19 AM	#22
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	I bought from him, good seller (justin) im assuming that's who youve linked to. $2k would get you a running motor in your car...for how long before spending wads of cash is anyone's guess. Edit: if your name is your birthday then don't bother doing the swap yet. Spend the money on suspension, brakes and general improvements. __________________ Worklog Last edited by Clean_Cookie; 09-05-2012 at 10:22 AM.

09-05-2012, 03:03 PM	#29
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	See my photos. Actually, see my workshop (or mess of cars and parts. I can show you what's required etc if you're keen. Oh you're in nsw. Oops. __________________ Worklog

10-05-2012, 10:35 AM	#31
BG1.8sp Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sydney Car: 2009 BL MPS Posts: 2,300 View Photos By: BG1.8sp	His info says Brisbane.... So I am going to guess there! Lol __________________

10-05-2012, 02:15 PM	#34
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	I've got all the parts laid out ready to go in, so i can take some photos for you. But a hell of a lot easier in person that's for sure. __________________ Worklog

12-05-2012, 07:37 AM	#38
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	I don't have a camera derb. I've never owned one! Also, did you get new pistons and rods rodger? Or just bolt ons? I paid about $850 for loom ecu, turbo pistons cams and intercooler. __________________ Worklog Last edited by Clean_Cookie; 12-05-2012 at 07:40 AM.

09-05-2012, 09:55 AM	#21
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	That's if you rebuld the motor. Should be half that if all you're doing is swapping parts between your car and a half cut.

09-05-2012, 10:37 AM	#23
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	Mine is still going strong with 267,000km on the engine and 380,000km on the chassis. I've been boosting it at 13psi since I got it 3.5 years ago and it drinks no coolant or oil. I've cooked the motor 3 goddamn times and the headgasket is still going strong. These aren't exactly crap motors.

09-05-2012, 11:25 AM	#24
Dansta323 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Brisbane , QLD Car: 1990 Mazda 323 Astina BG Posts: 104	Welcome Good to see some one else With a "90" BG

09-05-2012, 01:11 PM	#25
Alexander93 Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NSW Car: 1990 Mazda 323 BG Astina Posts: 18	i just want to do a straight swap in the engines... that way i have a project to drive for when i get off my p's in a couple of months. with the electronics side of the engine... would i need new stuff.. or would the old stuff still connect?

09-05-2012, 01:47 PM	#26
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	What 'stuff' are you talking about? Are you talking about the wiring in the engine bay [the loom]? If you're talking about plugging the BPT into your current loom, no it won't work. But if you get the loom with the engine, yes it will work. The BPT has more/different sensors than a BP so it wont drop in unless you transfer the loom or hack the hell out of your BP one which is a pain in the arse.

09-05-2012, 02:38 PM	#27
Alexander93 Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NSW Car: 1990 Mazda 323 BG Astina Posts: 18	yes, thats what i meant, sorry. how hard is it to attach this loom to the BP set up?

09-05-2012, 02:56 PM	#28
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	You need to remove the BP loom entirely. As in, disconnect all the plugs in the engine bay, disconnect the ECU behind the centre console, and drag the whole thing out of the car. That's what we refer to as the 'loom' when we say that. So you get your BPT loom that should come with the engine, and feed it back into the car the reverse way you took the original out. Then plug in the right ECU behind the centre condole [JDM version is better than ADM Ford Laser version. More power as its set to run on 98ron fuel, the laser runs on 91ron] and connect the plugs to their right places on the engine/in the bay. Make sense?

10-05-2012, 10:02 AM	#30
Alexander93 Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NSW Car: 1990 Mazda 323 BG Astina Posts: 18	oh, yeh makes heaps of sense derb! Thanks mate! i still have to figure it out visualy though. i can read it and understand it with no issues, but when it comes to doing it, its a whole different ball game. clean cookie, mate, where you located?

10-05-2012, 10:46 AM	#32
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	His garage is down at Regents Park, but I'll let him give you the details.

10-05-2012, 12:57 PM	#33
Alexander93 Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NSW Car: 1990 Mazda 323 BG Astina Posts: 18	Haha oopz, didnt see his details. That may or may not be a tad too far

10-05-2012, 02:24 PM	#35
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	Just upload them in raw format, then he can zoom to his heart's content.

10-05-2012, 02:25 PM	#36
rogerstrampoline AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: south brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina SP Posts: 365 View Photos By: rogerstrampoline	I'll be running my BP wiring just gotta splice in a new wire for the 4 point TPS and change the2L wire to 2M.....but mine is a bit different as I'm using the BP motor and putting the bpt parts onto it....only problem is the knock sensors not being in use. Depends on hoe much you wanna spend, I spent ages sourcing parts and got everything for just over $1000 for entire kit including fmic etc. But up to you, like derb has done I would just drop a bpt in, much safer for the engine

12-05-2012, 02:08 AM	#37
Alexander93 Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NSW Car: 1990 Mazda 323 BG Astina Posts: 18	Sounds like some hard work roger! And sure! Some photos would be helpful! Thanks!

18-05-2012, 07:56 PM	#39
rogerstrampoline AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: south brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina SP Posts: 365 View Photos By: rogerstrampoline	Nah just bolt ons....for $1000 I got: Jdm ecu Loom Fmic Full piping with ssq bov Intake manifold Exhaust manifold Dump pipe Vj20 turbo (no shaft play) with all exhaust housing etc All heat shields Oil sump with drain 330cc injectors Coolant line Oil feed line with banjo bolt Silicone hose connectors All gaskets Gtx AFM and hose And probably.more I can't remember....only.gonna run 8psi due to high compression and may get bpt cams to help May even be getting a spare engine to bolt all on and do the swap...but we'll see. In any case you need help with a BG go to derb hahaha he knows his ****

25-05-2012, 07:26 AM	#40
Alexander93 Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NSW Car: 1990 Mazda 323 BG Astina Posts: 18	Woah! Whered you pick that all up from? Im still looking for the engine itself.. one place had it and sold it within two days.