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Old 11-10-2004, 03:18 PM   #1
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BA Gearbox conversion: F -> G series?

i'm sure there was a topic about this, but i can't for the life of me find it.

Ok, after removing all the teeth off 3rd gear in my 2nd F-series box, i want to upgrade the G-series. What do i need?

i vaguely remember needing this:
G-Series gearbox (obviously :P)
G-series pressure plate (as the splines are diffferent)


what about driveshafts?
hubs?
gearbox mounts?
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Old 11-10-2004, 06:21 PM   #2
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I know you'll need the top mount (that was how Orical was identifying the F from the G).
If you were to get it from somewhere like Allmaz they would probably include the mounts with the box, if you asked realy nicely.
As for the shafts? I don't know but I'm sure you could have them remade with the G series splines.
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Old 11-10-2004, 07:44 PM   #3
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I really hate sounding like a dunce (nah I love it) but whats the diff between the F and G series box as Im unhappy with my stocker and looking for a more bulletproof version to hopefully track down an LSD for (if it exists)
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Old 12-10-2004, 06:38 AM   #4
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Hey boostedbatman you have a diagram of my motor as your avatar

have you got the miller cycle in your car?
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:44 AM   #5
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Right o, you need.

Gearbox (obviously)
Top mount
Front mount
Clutch slave cyl
Clutch line that runs over the gearbox
Flywheel
Clutch
Passenger side drive shaft (CV)
Intermediate shaft
Drivers side shaft (CV)

From what I can remember, that's it.
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:07 AM   #6
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Old 12-10-2004, 11:24 AM   #7
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crap - that much!

oh well, better off doing that than getting another f-series

i might try and find a written off BG SP and just buy the whole car! probably cheaper...

boostedbatman,
the f series is a smaller gearbox from 1.6 sohc 323s and post 95 1.8 astinas.
Check out some of the threads on fordlaser.com where they've discussed in leght the mods you can make to them to make them stronger/.
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Old 12-10-2004, 03:46 PM   #8
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interestingly, the SP20 uses a G series box, while all the other BJs use a F series

well according to one parts reseller, anyway

btw a SP20 box is almost 3k!
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Oh yeah,
I forgot about the intermediate shaft. That is a must as the diffs are in a slightly different place.
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:22 PM   #10
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crap - that much!

oh well, better off doing that than getting another f-series

i might try and find a written off BG SP and just buy the whole car! probably cheaper...
rupe i am trying to find a wrecked SP also ( i need ... wait for it ... its a mouth full ... both mirrors, drivers seat, speedo pod surround thingy, radio fascia surround thingy, passenger side window switch and tailights ... but no GB!) .. so i would be interested in what is left of the car ... if freight is cheap enough that is
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Old 13-10-2004, 07:37 AM   #11
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I'm doing the exact same thing Nate, but I'm taking what ever i can get, be it laser or 323. I really need just the box, so if I do find an SP really cheap, I'll let you know. Rupe, you can have the rest of the driveline stuff if I find one, wouldn't mind cv's and stuff as spare, but you need em more than me.
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Old 13-10-2004, 12:41 PM   #12
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cool, will see what happens.

atm i have my hands on an f series for cheapish, and will drop that in as i refuse to have my car not going for Allies memorial cruise.

but am still keeping my eyes out for a wrecked/cheap SP...or even a SP front cut
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Old 13-10-2004, 01:27 PM   #13
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Rob,
Wasn't there somebody of fordlaser that tried the SP20 box and it busted
just as quick or was it Dan that told me ??

Dan
Jim has a GTX flywheel you can use sure he will sell it cheap it fits fine
inside the G Series box & clutch does not foul against anything.

I am almost there have Gbox, slave cylinder, GTX flywheel just need mounts and new clutch.

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Old 13-10-2004, 01:51 PM   #14
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Rob,
Wasn't there somebody of fordlaser that tried the SP20 box and it busted
just as quick or was it Dan that told me ?
yeah that was Steve/KH TX3 - that was when his car was NA too apparently
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Could be the driver though
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Yeah it was mainly the driver....Steve and I had a few little online jokes about it. He was Go or Woah. :lol:

I'll go lookin for the box we want. Leave it with me! :wink:
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Here we go guys.

Now I have no problem with this being brought back up, because if anyone is interested in that group buy, I will be.

I'm going to start some research on what the ratings are on this diff too.
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whats going on? is there a group buy on the F-->G-series gearbox conversion-thingy???
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Old 13-10-2004, 10:56 PM   #19
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hahaha, **** I'm a mong.

Lets try again.
http://www.fordlaser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17320

YAY

Check it out, have a read, some EXCELLENT info at the bottom links too.
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hmmmm....sooo, if i get this right....i can buy a G-series gearbox, thats is for eks. in the sp20, and the driveshafts, bearings....and thats it?
and the G-series gearbox has a LSD in it?? or am i way off here????

do i need anything else?

sry for stupid Qs, but...hey, i just pay for the ****, and put it together!! :lol: :lol:
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