BG Popup lights problem *i think*

kwayzivietnamese · 06-09-2005, 05:45 PM

Hi everyone,
for the past week, it seems my lights dont like to stay up.
That is, when i press the pop up lights button, the lights pop up all the way then close straight away. Before this, i was able to have the lights come up and down in 2 stages. 1st press - half way up. 2nd press - fully up. 3rd press - half down. 4th press - complete closed.
They stay up perfectly fine when the lights are switched on.
I checked the fuse in the engine bay which controls the pop up mechanicsm and it seems fine.
Any ideas?

mazdamanik · 06-09-2005, 08:52 PM

what have u got in place to make it stop halfway up and down? might be that?

kwayzivietnamese · 06-09-2005, 09:27 PM

no idea..thats how it was when i first got the car...
So from the factory that pop up light button (on the instrument cluster to the right behind the signal indicator) is made to just flip the lights up and down without stopping?
I would of thought that it was made to at least allow the lights to either stay up or down..as in fully up while driving without lights on..and then press the button to have it fully down?

DrSilver · 06-09-2005, 09:52 PM

The pop up button only pops the light completely up or completely down...ive never heard of this half-way thing! its main use is to change the bulb or for looks if you like it open all the time.

mazdamanik · 07-09-2005, 06:59 AM

acutally the main use is designed fort the people that live in snow and ice....before you leave the car sitting there u put the lights up because in the morning the motors are frozzen and therefor will not pop up so you wont ahve any lights, so no from factory that button makes them rasie fully and stop there until u hit the button toput them down again so a previous owner of that car has been fiddling and i would say that is your problem

mcwilly · 07-09-2005, 09:37 AM

i know that some other cars such as the toyota celica and supra are able to put the lights at any point by turning the lights on then off, waiting for them to come down a bit, when they are at the right spot turn them back on to parkers i think and they hold that position. but the little switch on the dash should only pop up fully and down fully

kwayzivietnamese · 07-09-2005, 08:05 PM

ic..
Well right now mine just pop up then go back down again WITHOUT stopping..
Can any1 help me fix this problem? I checked the fuse in the engine bay relay box (30A one) and it appears to be fine.
Any other fuses or items i should check out?

Dogo · 07-09-2005, 08:11 PM

They cause more wind resistance and make the car slow.
You should take them off.

kwayzivietnamese · 07-09-2005, 08:24 PM

Well at the pace my car is going, i can afford to loose a few kw

Nah seriously, ne ideas guys n gals?

Cosmo Dude · 07-09-2005, 08:35 PM

Each light has a mind of its own. The up/down sensor is in the motor so that would make the switch my first guess (unless only one light is the problem).
I've played with this on my HB and SA22, even had one light that would wink when the lights were turned on

kwayzivietnamese · 07-09-2005, 09:03 PM

Haha thats kewl!
So wot do i have to do? Yank out the motor and clean the sensor? replace it? or wot part am i to yank out/clean/replace/play with. And where is it located?
How much would this cost?

andrewgrazier · 08-09-2005, 02:15 PM

ya got that screw thingy near the lights?

**** they are dangerous and scary
ya turn them...
nothing
turn it some more...
nothing
turn it again a little more
light VIOLENTLY flicks up then down!!!
hehehe

MeFo · 08-09-2005, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewgrazier

light VIOLENTLY flicks up then down!!!

I nearly lost a hand doing that once

The light was up, then all of a sudden... Straight back down! You'd think it'd stay up there... But no...!

mazdamanik · 08-09-2005, 03:53 PM

thats why it says in the manual to take the fuse out before you play with them:P

Cosmo Dude · 08-09-2005, 05:39 PM

My problem was due to some make-shift wiring. I put it straight and it worked again.

kwayzivietnamese · 08-09-2005, 07:05 PM

Yeah!!!..hehe they are covered by this rubber capsule..take that off to reveal red knob..twist it..bit further..and cazaam! lights pop up and down violently! But i have no idea what the red knobs are for or what they do as i didnt get a manual with my car

The wires? But its been working fine for a while now just until last week..could it really be a wiring problem? If so, where are the wires located? The ones that you set straight?

This really sux..i loved the sleepy eye effect when i had it half open..now its just fully shut..blah

andrewgrazier · 08-09-2005, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazdamanik

thats why it says in the manual to take the fuse out before you play with them:P

my manual didnt say that!! hehehehe

MeFo · 09-09-2005, 01:44 PM

lol, I never read the manual till a good time after that little incident

As for the rubber over the red knob, that's what I was playing with at the time. They're there so that you can wind the lights manually if something should go wrong. However I think removing the fuse as Mazdamanik said may be a more friendly step

As for the reason they're going straight up and down when you push the button, I'd say it's because whatever circuitry that was causing the 'sleepy eye' effect has shorted somewhere. I could only recommend pulling off the dash and working your way back along the wires to find it, or start from the lights and work your way back. Hope this helps..

kwayzivietnamese · 09-09-2005, 06:59 PM

Ok guys!
Thanks for your input and help..the problem has been fixed!
Back to sleepy eyes for me

geetee · 11-09-2005, 03:35 AM

maybe a previous owner has fiteda sleepy eyes kit.
they are widely available (ebay) for the mx5.
some people splice them intto other cars.

06-09-2005, 05:45 PM	#1
kwayzivietnamese Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 22	BG Popup lights problem i think Hi everyone, for the past week, it seems my lights dont like to stay up. That is, when i press the pop up lights button, the lights pop up all the way then close straight away. Before this, i was able to have the lights come up and down in 2 stages. 1st press - half way up. 2nd press - fully up. 3rd press - half down. 4th press - complete closed. They stay up perfectly fine when the lights are switched on. I checked the fuse in the engine bay which controls the pop up mechanicsm and it seems fine. Any ideas?

06-09-2005, 08:52 PM	#2
mazdamanik Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Rathmines Car: Was an Astina now a Commohore :-( Posts: 903 View Photos By: mazdamanik	what have u got in place to make it stop halfway up and down? might be that? __________________ You can't race what you can't catch!!

06-09-2005, 09:52 PM	#4
DrSilver Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Melbourne Car: Astra Sri T Posts: 660 View Photos By: DrSilver	The pop up button only pops the light completely up or completely down...ive never heard of this half-way thing! its main use is to change the bulb or for looks if you like it open all the time. Last edited by DrSilver; 08-09-2005 at 08:26 AM.

07-09-2005, 06:59 AM	#5
mazdamanik Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Rathmines Car: Was an Astina now a Commohore :-( Posts: 903 View Photos By: mazdamanik	acutally the main use is designed fort the people that live in snow and ice....before you leave the car sitting there u put the lights up because in the morning the motors are frozzen and therefor will not pop up so you wont ahve any lights, so no from factory that button makes them rasie fully and stop there until u hit the button toput them down again so a previous owner of that car has been fiddling and i would say that is your problem __________________ You can't race what you can't catch!!

07-09-2005, 09:37 AM	#6
mcwilly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: newcastle NSW Car: 323 astina Posts: 780 View Photos By: mcwilly	i know that some other cars such as the toyota celica and supra are able to put the lights at any point by turning the lights on then off, waiting for them to come down a bit, when they are at the right spot turn them back on to parkers i think and they hold that position. but the little switch on the dash should only pop up fully and down fully __________________ 340KW @ 24psi....................pb 13.3 @ 118mph (3rd gear issues + wheel spin)

06-09-2005, 09:27 PM	#3
kwayzivietnamese Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 22	no idea..thats how it was when i first got the car... So from the factory that pop up light button (on the instrument cluster to the right behind the signal indicator) is made to just flip the lights up and down without stopping? I would of thought that it was made to at least allow the lights to either stay up or down..as in fully up while driving without lights on..and then press the button to have it fully down?

07-09-2005, 08:05 PM	#7
kwayzivietnamese Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 22	ic.. Well right now mine just pop up then go back down again WITHOUT stopping.. Can any1 help me fix this problem? I checked the fuse in the engine bay relay box (30A one) and it appears to be fine. Any other fuses or items i should check out?

07-09-2005, 08:11 PM	#8
Dogo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melb, Aus Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant Posts: 3,459 View Photos By: Dogo	They cause more wind resistance and make the car slow. You should take them off. __________________ [ Turbo BA ] see my readers ride

07-09-2005, 08:24 PM	#9
kwayzivietnamese Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 22	Well at the pace my car is going, i can afford to loose a few kw Nah seriously, ne ideas guys n gals? __________________

07-09-2005, 08:35 PM	#10
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	Each light has a mind of its own. The up/down sensor is in the motor so that would make the switch my first guess (unless only one light is the problem). I've played with this on my HB and SA22, even had one light that would wink when the lights were turned on __________________ My 'stina Hatch

07-09-2005, 09:03 PM	#11
kwayzivietnamese Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 22	Haha thats kewl! So wot do i have to do? Yank out the motor and clean the sensor? replace it? or wot part am i to yank out/clean/replace/play with. And where is it located? How much would this cost? __________________

08-09-2005, 02:15 PM	#12
andrewgrazier Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: newcastle Posts: 586 View Photos By: andrewgrazier	ya got that screw thingy near the lights? **** they are dangerous and scary ya turn them... nothing turn it some more... nothing turn it again a little more light VIOLENTLY flicks up then down!!! hehehe

08-09-2005, 03:53 PM	#14
mazdamanik Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Rathmines Car: Was an Astina now a Commohore :-( Posts: 903 View Photos By: mazdamanik	thats why it says in the manual to take the fuse out before you play with them:P __________________ You can't race what you can't catch!!

08-09-2005, 05:39 PM	#15
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	My problem was due to some make-shift wiring. I put it straight and it worked again. __________________ My 'stina Hatch

08-09-2005, 07:05 PM	#16
kwayzivietnamese Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 22	Yeah!!!..hehe they are covered by this rubber capsule..take that off to reveal red knob..twist it..bit further..and cazaam! lights pop up and down violently! But i have no idea what the red knobs are for or what they do as i didnt get a manual with my car The wires? But its been working fine for a while now just until last week..could it really be a wiring problem? If so, where are the wires located? The ones that you set straight? This really sux..i loved the sleepy eye effect when i had it half open..now its just fully shut..blah __________________

09-09-2005, 01:44 PM	#18
MeFo AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ballarat Car: Astina GT Posts: 355 View Photos By: MeFo	lol, I never read the manual till a good time after that little incident As for the rubber over the red knob, that's what I was playing with at the time. They're there so that you can wind the lights manually if something should go wrong. However I think removing the fuse as Mazdamanik said may be a more friendly step As for the reason they're going straight up and down when you push the button, I'd say it's because whatever circuitry that was causing the 'sleepy eye' effect has shorted somewhere. I could only recommend pulling off the dash and working your way back along the wires to find it, or start from the lights and work your way back. Hope this helps..

09-09-2005, 06:59 PM	#19
kwayzivietnamese Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 22	Ok guys! Thanks for your input and help..the problem has been fixed! Back to sleepy eyes for me __________________

11-09-2005, 03:35 AM	#20
geetee Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Car: A Mazda 323F BJ Sport. Posts: 1,064 View Photos By: geetee	maybe a previous owner has fiteda sleepy eyes kit. they are widely available (ebay) for the mx5. some people splice them intto other cars. __________________ www.club323f.com http://www.astinagt.com/forums/vbgar...do=view&id=192

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