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Old 17-02-2013, 03:39 PM   #1
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EOI [GB] FP/FS Adjustable Cam Gears

this is a EOI of who would be interrested in buying a set of adjustable cam gears for these motors.

ice88 (chris) has a set and is willing to have them coppied and made up, as there is no adjustable cam gear avaliable for these motors, so this is kind of a one off buy,

we need to get some rough numbers, and see who will be keen to grab a set.

to do this you will need to supply a set of cam gears to be sent away and the magic happen

so place your name down on the list if your interrested

1: HAIGHIE
2: Swiftjimmy
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Old 17-02-2013, 03:57 PM   #2
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Side note guys, just in case someone decides to google. There are sets around but none of them work.

Trying to find a set that I have or Darryl has is bleeding difficult.
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Old 17-02-2013, 05:33 PM   #3
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Are they being made up in South-East Queensland somewhere or interstate?
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Old 17-02-2013, 05:36 PM   #4
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Going to try South East Queensland Darryl.

Got any tips regarding engineering places to try out? Chicaboo recommended me someone looong ago, try as a might cant remember it atm. Itll come to me though.
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Going to try South East Queensland Darryl.

Got any tips regarding engineering places to try out? Chicaboo recommended me someone looong ago, try as a might cant remember it atm. Itll come to me though.
Not really. I need to get one of my Tri-point gears re-made so I am in a similar boat as to finding an engineering shop to it.

Probably something I will look at in the middle of this year though.
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Old 17-02-2013, 05:49 PM   #6
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Might pm chicaboo/LW to ask them who they'd recommend.
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Old 17-02-2013, 07:25 PM   #7
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generate more interest, add a price.
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Old 17-02-2013, 07:43 PM   #8
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I'm interested But I've got a stock motor would that benefit me? Also more info would be good… For example Chris (Ice88) Has an SP20 Are they the same for the 1.8 L? And if someone that has them can share their experiences with them for example can you tune the timing yourself or not? Do you need a different setting for everyday city driving and one for racing? Pros and Cons that sort of thing.
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Old 17-02-2013, 07:58 PM   #9
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there a direct fit for both these motors, (both motors use exactly the same head and cam gears) it would be adviseable to have it set by a tuner, but i gess you could put them in your self you'd just have to research the specs and work with that.

raff i will email you later this week about your cams as i am completeing a cam upgrade myself and i will descuss with you about it, i to only have the 1.8 (FP) motor

the idea of the adjustable cam gears are to get the most power out if your cams by adjusting valve opening and closing points as well as working out a good overlap, this is usually done buy a tuner with a dyno, once they are set you leave them like that as it will be the most powerfull efficient timing possible for your car with them cams

i am asking for these to be made so i can run sertain cams i am about to install in my car for when i turbo my car i little later into this year, but offering these to everyone so they can gain that little bit extra out of there motor.
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generate more interest, add a price.
If there is a decent enough group then I would guesstimate that the price would be somewhere around $2-300. The tricky bit will be getting the centres designed and produced. After that it is just time for the machine work on the stock cam gears.

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I'm interested But I've got a stock motor would that benefit me? Also more info would be good… For example Chris (Ice88) Has an SP20 Are they the same for the 1.8 L? And if someone that has them can share their experiences with them for example can you tune the timing yourself or not? Do you need a different setting for everyday city driving and one for racing? Pros and Cons that sort of thing.
I'll answer some questions in dot points:
- will suit either FP or FS engines
- stock motors will have less benefit than modded motors
- you can adjust the timing yourself and there is information on the web about the effects (http://www.compcams.com/Pages/413/ca...ion-angle.aspx)
- Unless you are going to cut a holes in your valve cover and timing belt cover, then you would probably only make an adjustment once in a while (6-12 months). On a stock motor you probably wont see enough of a difference to change it for a race day.
- Not too many cons, because you can always return the cam gears to 0-0 or put the stock ones back in. Lots of pro's (depending on adjustment) that range from improved fuel economy to improved power.
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Old 17-02-2013, 08:19 PM   #11
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If there is a decent enough group then I would guesstimate that the price would be somewhere around $2-300. The tricky bit will be getting the centres designed and produced. After that it is just time for the machine work on the stock cam gears.
thats exactly what i roughly quoted to swiftjimmy but didn't want to put a price up ATM because i have no idea yet, i do have a machinest down here who is really good at his work and takes great pride and works for him self so is reasonably cheap, but as chris said and it is totally understandable he doen't exactly just let his go as there to rear
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Old 18-02-2013, 10:50 PM   #12
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raff i will email you later this week about your cams as i am completeing a cam upgrade myself and i will descuss with you about it, i to only have the 1.8 (FP) motor
Cool cheers Andy.
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Old 18-02-2013, 10:51 PM   #13
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I'll answer some questions in dot points:
- will suit either FP or FS engines
- stock motors will have less benefit than modded motors
- you can adjust the timing yourself and there is information on the web about the effects (http://www.compcams.com/Pages/413/ca...ion-angle.aspx)
- Unless you are going to cut a holes in your valve cover and timing belt cover, then you would probably only make an adjustment once in a while (6-12 months). On a stock motor you probably wont see enough of a difference to change it for a race day.
- Not too many cons, because you can always return the cam gears to 0-0 or put the stock ones back in. Lots of pro's (depending on adjustment) that range from improved fuel economy to improved power.

Thanks Darryl.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:29 AM   #14
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BUMP,

although there's a lot of people moving on from there BJ mazda, i'm still keen on these and i'm pretty sure I could convince Ben Carney on a set also
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Old 09-06-2013, 03:33 PM   #15
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im interested aswell just ordered the corksport cam shafts
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:37 PM   #16
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im interested aswell just ordered the corksport cam shafts
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:39 PM   #17
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SR Motorsport have adjustable cam gears available on their website?
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:36 PM   #18
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SR cam gears are one of the ones that are not correct in their design. The Focus style cam gears are the only way to go.
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:15 AM   #19
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do you have a link orion??
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do you have a link orion??
Link for what exactly?

There are many links to threads that detail the flaws in the SR and Kkhasmank gears.

If you are asking about links for the Focus gears, then there are no current ones that I know of.
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