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Old 30-03-2005, 02:30 PM   #21
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yeah depends on where the number plate is.. either on the boot or the bar...
i think mine light up the ones on the bar, but not on the boot. but lights up the boot section on cars who r on the left lane of me.
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Old 30-03-2005, 02:34 PM   #22
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hehe, mine lights up the ones on the boot

and it should light lower on the right
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Old 30-03-2005, 03:07 PM   #23
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on the subject of legalitys of hid, dad bought an rx8 with leather pack not long ago. obvioiusly this comes with xenon lamps for low beam. The car has windscreen style squirters on the head lights (they spray the whole car they're that strong, and work whenever you hit the windscreen suirters). The salesman at mazda hornsby (hinrick i think his name was) said it is illigal to have xenon without these. The reason being that the cool blue/rainbow look you get from cars with xenon is not from the xenon lamps themseves. Its from dried water dropplets on the front of the lens that refact the light. Dunno if hes right or not but he is normally a very knowelageable bloke, especially about mazdas and german cars.
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Old 30-03-2005, 04:03 PM   #24
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water dries to water vapour... it leaves no extra,

water marks are caused by outside air drying on or in the water.... water spots don't exist in a vacumm......

sounds uber fishy to me, esp since you can run a HID globe outside of an enclosure......
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Old 30-03-2005, 04:34 PM   #25
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but he's not talking about inside the light fixture, he means spots on the outside of the lens/headlight...
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Old 30-03-2005, 05:11 PM   #26
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i know that....
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Old 30-03-2005, 05:20 PM   #27
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well how would there not be water marks on the outside of the lense to reflect off then?

make sense
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Old 30-03-2005, 05:28 PM   #28
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clean lenses
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Old 30-03-2005, 05:29 PM   #29
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thats it. and the water spots cause refraction because the light is so white, making that rainbow look you see when they come towards you. xenon by itself is just off being a pure white light. Anyway thats what we got told about them and if you find a car with HID and no water sprayers ill be very suprised. The non leather rx8 doesnt have them, or at least ones that work.
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Old 30-03-2005, 05:42 PM   #30
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the HID lights are sold by the temperature that they light, which determines the colour...

the rainbow is there for the same reason that the sky is blue... its the refraction through the lens and viewing angle....

water sprayers were a european legality me thinks but i'm not sure it was only for HID lights... peugeot/volvo/audi etc have been putting these on cars for a long time now...

from what i can work out the real issue is if the lights are self leveling...


but i love the water sprayers on the headlights!!! water runs against the spring pushs the bar out, and then sprays the lights... then pops back in when done
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Old 30-03-2005, 05:47 PM   #31
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im 99% sure its an ADR too. They are cool but if your cars clean they fix that quick-smart. Also you dont want to use anything but water in it if you like your polish.
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Old 26-04-2005, 09:42 AM   #32
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After seeing this install I went shopping around. I can get hella kits for around $1500 and narva ones down as low as $1200. Has anyone found them anycheaper. I thought someone mentioned $500 but I cant remember where.
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Old 26-04-2005, 09:51 AM   #33
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i got mine from america/hong kong for $400aud (i think - cant remember but it was under $500)
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Old 27-04-2005, 09:32 AM   #34
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i think all HID kits are illegal cos there are none that are ADR approved, like most of the blue tinted zenon bulbs arnt ADR approved.

i cant find any HID that are ADR aproved but i think if u a good install u should be fine
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Old 27-04-2005, 11:24 AM   #35
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So are you saying the cheapish blue head light globes do not actually make any difference to visability only look cool. Like $60 bucks as I recall,

I was thinking about getting some cause they are pretty cheap, thought they where a mild improvement, told they last longer (if they last a month) and they look cool.
But if not an actual improvement for my visibility Baaah stuffem.

FYI that Rx7 on Sunday can water spray a car travelling not all that close behind it, See my bonnent for proof.
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Old 27-04-2005, 02:14 PM   #36
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HID or any globes are only legal up to 6000K as far as I know.
If my headlights ever go out I will just get the Philips 4300K pure white things for the headlights and foglights. I don't need blue lights on the front of the car, and police will pull you over for it if they are blue enough...
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Old 27-04-2005, 07:05 PM   #37
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So are you saying the cheapish blue head light globes do not actually make any difference to visability only look cool. Like $60 bucks as I recall
yes they make a visibility difference blue is the lowest spectrum visible to mankind

i'll explain simply....

yellow is the best colour you can get for visibilty, or hues of it... having said that **** tins of white (ie HID) will be better

human eye colour spectrum goes from blue, through yellow, to red with UV at the blue end, and infrared at the red end...

yellow is the most visible colour to the human eyes as that is where the highest response to colour is... this is why warning signs, traffic lights, tennis balls, and night golf balls, and cricket balls are yellow (not 100% on the cricket - it was last time i checked)
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Old 27-04-2005, 07:14 PM   #38
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i dont no if it is street legal but the Top Secret R34 GTR had xenon headlights but no sprayers...
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Old 27-04-2005, 07:46 PM   #39
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and last time i checked it was a Jappanese car, not an aussie domestic market car. ADR meaning Australian Design Rule, ie applicable to cars sold in oz.
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Old 27-04-2005, 08:20 PM   #40
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thats true. thats pretty obvious isnt it lol
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