Difference between two Astinas

jordy · 20-10-2004, 03:02 PM

Hi
I have a 1991 Astina GT and my sister has a 1991 Astina GLX (I'm pretty sure its a GLX), and they are both 1800 DOHC.
Mine is manual and my sisters is auto and mine seems a hell of a lot more powerful that hers, I wouldn't think that the auto would make that much difference.
My friend told me the GLX and GT engines are the same but my sisters GLX redlines at 6,800 and mine redlines at 7,200.
Are the engines exactly the same?
Can anyone tell me all the differences between these two models?
Thanks heaps.

JynX · 20-10-2004, 03:17 PM

Difference will be in the gear ratios in the slush box and the manual.

jordy · 20-10-2004, 03:21 PM

Mine's got a louder exhuast, the suspension seems stiffer, they have different seats and some of the interior is different.
Whats with the different redline?
I think there must be some difference in the engine as mine seems much more powerful.

Nate · 20-10-2004, 04:18 PM

you appear to be from the UK??? ... best to ask on www.popuplights.co.uk as they will have a better knowledge of the UK models

jordy · 20-10-2004, 05:05 PM

Nope New Zealand.
I'll check out that site thanks.

DrSilver · 20-10-2004, 06:02 PM

never heard of an auto BG astina with DOHC engine...

I think overhere both the DOHC and SOHC redline at 6ooorpm.

jordy · 20-10-2004, 06:54 PM

Thats really strange.
The auto one is definately a DOHC 1800.
The 1800 DOHC gets 99kW (or so http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/ says) at 7000 and my GT and redlines at 7200, and my sisters redlines at 6800 so I asume the redline is when the rev limit comes in, so my sisters one definately wont be as powerful as mine, and maybe the ones your talking about don't get all the power they can either.

GrimReaper · 20-10-2004, 06:56 PM

hmmm....maybe i can help ur sister?
what does she look like? :lol: :lol: :lol:

ops:

mrpayner · 20-10-2004, 07:10 PM

Wow.. the website definately says 99kw.. in the brochure it's 92kw.. I think 99 might be wishful thinking.

You'll find as Jynx said that the ratios will be different. Before i owned the astina i took a 96 corolla auto for a test drive, it was a 1.8 EFI and it felt slower than my 86 1.6 carby corolla that i had at the time. Auto boxes in smaller cars just don't go anywhere fast...

AP

jordy · 20-10-2004, 07:11 PM

lol umm she's 19 and **** off :lol:

Come on dude we're talkin about the cars not my sister. 8)

GrimReaper · 20-10-2004, 07:12 PM

heheheheh, sry there!

what can i say, imma dawg!!! 8)

jordy · 20-10-2004, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPayner

Wow.. the website definately says 99kw.. in the brochure it's 92kw.. I think 99 might be wishful thinking.

You'll find as Jynx said that the ratios will be different. Before i owned the astina i took a 96 corolla auto for a test drive, it was a 1.8 EFI and it felt slower than my 86 1.6 carby corolla that i had at the time. Auto boxes in smaller cars just don't go anywhere fast...

AP

I found another site that said its 96kW.

morleykor · 21-10-2004, 05:58 AM

:shock: you boys have some usefull info on here.

im a member of popuplights.co.uk
some of you have heard of me some aint :lol:

jordy i've posted a reply to your question on the other site
as jynx said it's in the automated ratio's
Automatic's are pre set to a given ratio and have a upper rev limit which cannot be breached.
the same applies to the manual's in south east asia/australia they have a de-limiter, so that's why you guys are stuck to 6500ish rpm and your top end speed is'nt too great unless you've had the car de-limited (or it came in normal spec) and chucked turbo's/intercooler's/superchargers etc in there.

anyway any of you who have good working knowledge of the astina engines are welcome to register on the u.k site, we aint got a lot of regular members and there is not many of us on the site so extra input is always welcome :wink: :wink:

Dutchy · 24-10-2004, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSilver

never heard of an auto BG astina with DOHC engine...

I think overhere both the DOHC and SOHC redline at 6ooorpm.

Yeah i dont think ive seen or heard of a BG DOHC Auto tho i guess they would have had to have made them.

Tho the 1.8 SOHC astina has a peak of 76Kw @ 5200rpm and redlines at 6000. The revlimiter kicks in at 7000.... im pretty sure... :?
The 1.8 DOHC SP model peaks at 6500rpm with 92kw this redlines at 7000 and hits the rev limiter at 7500revs... this is what ive most commonly heard anyways and seems pretty acurate to me... is only for 5speeds tho and BG. :wink:

jordy · 24-10-2004, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchy

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSilver

never heard of an auto BG astina with DOHC engine...

I think overhere both the DOHC and SOHC redline at 6ooorpm.

Yeah i dont think ive seen or heard of a BG DOHC Auto tho i guess they would have had to have made them.

Tho the 1.8 SOHC astina has a peak of 76Kw @ 5200rpm and redlines at 6000. The revlimiter kicks in at 7000.... im pretty sure... :?
The 1.8 DOHC SP model peaks at 6500rpm with 92kw this redlines at 7000 and hits the rev limiter at 7500revs... this is what ive most commonly heard anyways and seems pretty acurate to me... is only for 5speeds tho and BG. :wink:

Mine says GT on it and has the bucket seats, hers does not have GT on it and does not have bucket seats. They are BOTH 1800 DOHC engines.
My redline is definately 7200 and im pretty sure I hit the rev limiter once, I don't think it was pulling 7500rpm though.
They are both jap imports if it makes a difference.

Dutchy · 25-10-2004, 10:44 PM

hmmm
yeah mine would both be "aus spec"

hehe

interesting the way they differ the models sooo much!

Jez

Rupewrecht · 26-10-2004, 11:08 AM

Honestly, i'd say it's just that most autos are slanted more towards cruising rather than driving, and hence the softer suspension setup etc

jrp928 · 06-12-2004, 11:47 AM

tHE auto and manual mx-5s have different CR (9.4 and 9.0) and different torque peaks - more down low in auto to get it off the mark. If it was done in them, why not in Astinas?
jp 90 SP

BaH · 05-08-2013, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordy

Mine says GT on it and has the bucket seats, hers does not have GT on it and does not have bucket seats. They are BOTH 1800 DOHC engines.
My redline is definately 7200 and im pretty sure I hit the rev limiter once, I don't think it was pulling 7500rpm though.
They are both jap imports if it makes a difference.

jap imports from that time are different.. the Nz assembled glx had single cam caborated engines and bucket seats

Noble323 · 05-08-2013, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaH

jap imports from that time are different.. the Nz assembled glx had single cam caborated engines and bucket seats

Haha, first welcome to the forum

and this thread is nearly 10 years old haha

20-10-2004, 03:02 PM	#1
jordy Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Zealand Car: '91 BG Posts: 230 View Photos By: jordy	Difference between two Astinas Hi I have a 1991 Astina GT and my sister has a 1991 Astina GLX (I'm pretty sure its a GLX), and they are both 1800 DOHC. Mine is manual and my sisters is auto and mine seems a hell of a lot more powerful that hers, I wouldn't think that the auto would make that much difference. My friend told me the GLX and GT engines are the same but my sisters GLX redlines at 6,800 and mine redlines at 7,200. Are the engines exactly the same? Can anyone tell me all the differences between these two models? Thanks heaps.

20-10-2004, 03:17 PM	#2
JynX Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,767	Difference will be in the gear ratios in the slush box and the manual. __________________ JynX 1994 Turbo BA Astina 200whp @ 12psi "If you cant drive fast with 90hp..... 900hp wont help you"

20-10-2004, 04:18 PM	#4
Nate Pandaspeed Racing Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Brisney Land Car: BG SP Posts: 4,170 View Photos By: Nate	you appear to be from the UK??? ... best to ask on www.popuplights.co.uk as they will have a better knowledge of the UK models __________________ Life would be straight without twisties STOCK AS A ROCKET! •motor sport is dangerous and that accidents causing harm can and do happen and may happen to me. I accept the conditions of, and acknowledge the risks arising from, attending or participating in the event and being provided with the event services by CAMS and the Associated Entities I THINK I AM N2!

20-10-2004, 06:56 PM	#8
GrimReaper Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 241	hmmm....maybe i can help ur sister? what does she look like? :lol: :lol: :lol: ops: __________________ ---------------------- det er ikke farten som dreper, men smellet, or as the americans say, its not the fart that kills, but the smell.....

20-10-2004, 07:10 PM	#9
mrpayner Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -37.561609, 143.854814 Car: 2013 Mazda 6 GT Sedan - Soul Red Posts: 3,517 View Photos By: mrpayner	Wow.. the website definately says 99kw.. in the brochure it's 92kw.. I think 99 might be wishful thinking. You'll find as Jynx said that the ratios will be different. Before i owned the astina i took a 96 corolla auto for a test drive, it was a 1.8 EFI and it felt slower than my 86 1.6 carby corolla that i had at the time. Auto boxes in smaller cars just don't go anywhere fast... AP __________________ 2013 Mazda6 Diesel GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[Formerly] 2004 Mazda6 Luxury Sport

20-10-2004, 03:21 PM	#3
jordy Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Zealand Car: '91 BG Posts: 230 View Photos By: jordy	Mine's got a louder exhuast, the suspension seems stiffer, they have different seats and some of the interior is different. Whats with the different redline? I think there must be some difference in the engine as mine seems much more powerful.

20-10-2004, 05:05 PM	#5
jordy Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Zealand Car: '91 BG Posts: 230 View Photos By: jordy	Nope New Zealand. I'll check out that site thanks.

20-10-2004, 06:02 PM	#6
DrSilver Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Melbourne Car: Astra Sri T Posts: 660 View Photos By: DrSilver	never heard of an auto BG astina with DOHC engine... I think overhere both the DOHC and SOHC redline at 6ooorpm.

20-10-2004, 06:54 PM	#7
jordy Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Zealand Car: '91 BG Posts: 230 View Photos By: jordy	Thats really strange. The auto one is definately a DOHC 1800. The 1800 DOHC gets 99kW (or so http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/ says) at 7000 and my GT and redlines at 7200, and my sisters redlines at 6800 so I asume the redline is when the rev limit comes in, so my sisters one definately wont be as powerful as mine, and maybe the ones your talking about don't get all the power they can either.

20-10-2004, 07:11 PM	#10
jordy Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Zealand Car: '91 BG Posts: 230 View Photos By: jordy	lol umm she's 19 and **** off :lol: Come on dude we're talkin about the cars not my sister. 8)

20-10-2004, 07:12 PM	#11
GrimReaper Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 241	heheheheh, sry there! what can i say, imma dawg!!! 8) __________________ ---------------------- det er ikke farten som dreper, men smellet, or as the americans say, its not the fart that kills, but the smell.....

21-10-2004, 05:58 AM	#13
morleykor Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: peterborough. U.K Posts: 39	:shock: you boys have some usefull info on here. im a member of popuplights.co.uk some of you have heard of me some aint :lol: jordy i've posted a reply to your question on the other site as jynx said it's in the automated ratio's Automatic's are pre set to a given ratio and have a upper rev limit which cannot be breached. the same applies to the manual's in south east asia/australia they have a de-limiter, so that's why you guys are stuck to 6500ish rpm and your top end speed is'nt too great unless you've had the car de-limited (or it came in normal spec) and chucked turbo's/intercooler's/superchargers etc in there. anyway any of you who have good working knowledge of the astina engines are welcome to register on the u.k site, we aint got a lot of regular members and there is not many of us on the site so extra input is always welcome :wink: :wink: __________________ you know this call me your "ho-liness" coz the pimpness is my bizness. 140+an not redlining

25-10-2004, 10:44 PM	#16
Dutchy Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ballarat, Vic, Aus Car: BG Astina SP Turbo Posts: 120 View Photos By: Dutchy	hmmm yeah mine would both be "aus spec" hehe interesting the way they differ the models sooo much! Jez __________________ '93 BG SP Turbo

26-10-2004, 11:08 AM	#17
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Honestly, i'd say it's just that most autos are slanted more towards cruising rather than driving, and hence the softer suspension setup etc __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

06-12-2004, 11:47 AM	#18
jrp928 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 38	tHE auto and manual mx-5s have different CR (9.4 and 9.0) and different torque peaks - more down low in auto to get it off the mark. If it was done in them, why not in Astinas? jp 90 SP

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