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Cracked Block - So What now??
I purchased a stock 2002 Mazda 323 Hatch. I loved the look of it and have always wanted to work it!!!
Got it some new shoes and an awesome note with a Hotdog muffler. The sound absolutely rips. My next stop was a body kit and then start on the motor... But I have now cracked the block and its running on about 2 cylinders. So what are my options? I really want to get a rebuilt engine with a turbo. There are a lot of people claiming you can get greater than 300HP at the wheels from 22 PSI. I love the sound of this but whats it gonna cost? I'm in Melbourne and really need a good reliable place that I can go who know their stuff and have good contacts and dont want to rip you off!!!! Anyone got some suggestions? |
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your gonna need a pretty tough engine and box to handle 22psi and a fair bit of money!
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ipswich, Queensland
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Figure in $10,000 just to be safe
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I looked into doing this when I destroyed the engine in my car earlier this year.
I ended up going for the FS-ZE out of the JDM Familia due to cost of everything involved in turboing your car. Is your car a 1.6, a 1.8 or 2.0 as there are quite a few subtle differences between the three. I would say that $10k-$15k would be your budget to turbo your car properly. But being in melbourne I dont think your are allowed to fit a turbo to your car if it wasn't a manufacturers option and you cant use after market ecus? Some one will corrrect me on this if im wrong ![]() Here in Qld almost anything goes. |
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niceboy put a custom turbo kit on his, think it costed him about 7k+ hes actually in melbourne too
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For 22psi+ from the top of my head you will need:
WRX 440cc Injectors (At least most likely 550cc) Low compression pistons Aftermarket rods Turbo - T3? FMIC Clutch/Pressure Plate Aftermarket Fuel Pump Piping Plus a whole lot of other stuff that I'm missing. Best off reading mazdas247 for your answers I honestly play no attention to the turbo lads over there.
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My car is a 1.8. Had seen a motor on here for $3800 in Melbourne with all the extra gear required. It was suppose to just bolt in but we all know what that means!! Being a front wheel drive car, I'd be concerned that I would spend the rest of my life at the lights with my wheels spinning and not going anywhere!!! Best I rob a bank and junk it I think!!
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By the way. Anything goes in Melbourne... Until you get pulled over!!! We are the nanny state here. We can get booked for accelerating too fast!!
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Excessive acceleration is the most bull**** charge. It's a speed limit, I got to it very quickly and stopped. You're Gunna fine me for it.
Why don't you put a ms^-2 sign at every light and then I'll accept I did something wrong. On topic, ice88 also forgot ECU + tune. Easy another 1.5 - 2k in that
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heres niceboy's car, hes on astinagt too but never made a project worklog for it... http://www.ozmazdaclub.com/my-rides/...184kw-atw.html and dappas, dont really have any info on it thoughh. http://www.astinagt.com/forums/vbpic...?do=view&g=611
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I mentioned it as I have already been down the road of what to do to with a stuffed engine this year.
But if turboing is what the OP is after dont think of using a FS-ZE as the compression is way to high and costs will sky rocket. But if your after a mild power boost and a nice increase in driveability seriously consider the FS-ZE as I am really happy with my results so far. Quote:
I will mention I have a F series block here but I dont think its worth shipping it that far. |
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Shipping costs are generally under $200, which is not really that bad. Problem is I am probably just after something I can't have. Dropping a turbo in a front wheel drive is almost a waste as you cant ramp it up that much. The FS-ZE is certainly an option, but what's the fit like? I really dont want to redesign the whole engine mount for a little power.
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Hey Phil, is that a 2.0 motor or a 1.8?
It looks exactly like my car (except the colour). Nice to see I'm not completely nuts for trying to pimp my ride!!! When I started looking into this I expected a whole bunch of people telling me I was an idiot for bothering to do this to a BJ!!!! |
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Phils is a 2.0L, and it retains the standard mounts etc to work
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Anyone have any thoughts on an FS-DET? Very similar to Phil's ZE except it is basically the FS-DE with a turbocharger. Produces the same HP but with a sharper torque curve.
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None of the adm bj's were turbo'd, so it'd still have to be all custom, otherwise you could buy all the necessary hardware from the states and go from there.
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The FS-ZE is a bolt in fit and I know for sure that the 1.8 ECU runs it with no problems, I cant answer the question of how a FS-DE ECU would run a FS-ZE but im sure it would do a better job than my 1.8 ECU.
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What would you do with 300whp in a FWD thats not designed for that? Wheel spin & torque steer =/
If you want big power, get a RWD or even AWD. I'd go either N/A build with cams/ecu or boost it with a smallish turbo to keep it wickedly responsive. The FS-ZE with a good tune (Microtech/Emanage?), free flowing exhaust & intake looks like good fun.
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323, engine, mazda, rebuilt, turbo |
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