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Old 22-05-2012, 08:52 PM   #81
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Handling > Power
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Old 22-05-2012, 10:41 PM   #82
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Not sure how much detail you want but heres a small overview.

Header design is actually pretty complex in what it does but pretty simple in practice if that makes sense. Theres heaps of different types but ill focus on the common types for our car.

4-1 headers are much easier generally to manufacture, and thus are usually cheaper. They have less stuff ups from the factory due to the easier nature to manufacture.

4-2-1 headers are generally made by hand making them more expensive and more tedious to make, hence the cost increase.

In performance terms a header is designed to work with a certain rpm band in mind. In this band is when the max effect of the header will be achieved this can be coupled with a tuned intake manifold, intake pipe, cams etc to produce a compound effect or staggered to produce a wider power band.

What typically determines the rpm band the header is good for, is the lenght of the primaries (the pipes that come out of the block), longer the pipes the lower the rpm (read: 95% of the time). Having crazy short pipes leads the header to benefitting the top end.

The reason that 4-1 and 4-2-1 differ in performance gains is due to pressure waves. The 4-2-1 header essentially has two lenghts of pipe with varying lenghts, thus creating two pressure waves albeit smaller then a 4-1s possible pressure wave. This essentially creates a wider power band by giving two points in the rpm band in which it provides a boost of sorts.

In regards to quality the OBX is nickel plated steel so wrapping it isnt a great idea, the welds can also at times be a little flaky in quality. Its also not a tuned header in that the primaries are soooo short that it would take revving the engine to 15k to get any gain from the design. What gains you do get are from opening up the piping a bit and removing the precat (a major blockage).

The best header you can get in australia is the pacemaker. Its also probably the second best header available off the shelf and can be had off fleabay for about 400 including delivery. Did see them going for 350-360 a year or two ago.
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Old 22-05-2012, 10:56 PM   #83
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Im guessing these will be for the BJ:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MAZDA-323...#ht_594wt_1029
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Old 23-05-2012, 12:57 PM   #84
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Im guessing these will be for the BJ:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MAZDA-323...#ht_594wt_1029
Sadly not They're for a BA Astina/KJ Laser.


Ice - Thanks heaps for that explanation! Its all making sense now I always wondered why the OBX was cheaper than the other ones I've found
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Old 25-05-2012, 03:06 PM   #85
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Had a bit of a chuckle to myself when I dug this up from my archives



Still cant believe this was just under $3000 worth of damage!
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Old 25-05-2012, 09:12 PM   #86
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What happened?? You probably told us, but i cant remember
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Old 25-05-2012, 09:16 PM   #87
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Aahhh Ben, you have much to learn. It's clearly from a drop bear!
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Old 25-05-2012, 09:29 PM   #88
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What happened?? You probably told us, but i cant remember
This was ages ago, about a year or two ago.

Basically what happened was:

Got rear ended by some P plater chick in one of those smaller 4WD's (like a Suzuki Jimny type thinggo). We were both turning left from a slip lane (single file format) and I slowly crept forward to see any oncoming traffic before turning. She saw my brake lights go out, and mistook me for actually turning. What did she do? She planted it and landed herself right in the back of my car...

I later pulled off into a small car park about 200m down the road, with her following me thinking that she might follow me into the car park and we can exchange insurance details and such.

No... I thought wrong...

I pulled into the car park to inspect the damage, but I was the only one there - no small 4WD baring P plates behind me or anything; she had pulled a runner...

I couldn't even properly see her rego number as the plate was bashed in and obscured in many different ways from the impact.

I cannot express my anger, frustration and dissapointment without getting possibly getting banned from these forums due to my disgusting language... but I refrained so I should be alright! .
As we were both P platers at the time, I would have expected her to try to abide fully by the law and at very least give me her rego number. I knew I was doing the right thing by going straight to the cops to follow things up and see if there were any alternate ways of dealing with this, however there wasn't much I could do as I had no details; Only a massive dent in my bumper and a mildly dented boot.

Luckily dad knew a mate who worked in the insurance (the same company we are insured with too!) business and sorted things out... Admittedly as there were no details the claim took about a month and a half to process, and later proceeded to get the car back to its awesome, Mazda-like state!
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Old 26-05-2012, 12:50 AM   #89
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In this case, I would turn my hazard lights on, jump straight out of the car with my phone and snap her rego than jump back in and pull over to some where to inspect the damage!

I found that most P plater chicks drive very fast & furious, they change lanes right in front of your face and only signal after half way, they drive and put make ups at the same time, and some times they just pull out from farking nowhere right in front of you and take off like nothing happened, it is so frustrated seeing them like that! I wish I had a bazooka welded to my car so I can just blow them off
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Old 26-05-2012, 10:45 PM   #90
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In this case, I would turn my hazard lights on, jump straight out of the car with my phone and snap her rego than jump back in and pull over to some where to inspect the damage!
I would have, except my phone was dead although even if I did, I would have held up traffic majorly as there was about a 7 car lineup behind me.

Nevertheless, my car is fixed and I'm happy!

Went for a quick hills bash in my car today, first time I drove it in about 4 weeks after getting the leaking shocks replaced (I didn't pay for it ) and I cant believe how much of a difference there is! Even with the stock suspension setup!
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Old 27-05-2012, 09:40 PM   #91
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So I had a bit of spare time up my sleeve today, and decided to record my exhaust tone. Let me know what you think!

Exhaust
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Old 28-05-2012, 05:02 AM   #92
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This was ages ago, about a year or two ago.

Basically what happened was:

Got rear ended by some P plater chick in one of those smaller 4WD's (like a Suzuki Jimny type thinggo). We were both turning left from a slip lane (single file format) and I slowly crept forward to see any oncoming traffic before turning. She saw my brake lights go out, and mistook me for actually turning. What did she do? She planted it and landed herself right in the back of my car...

I later pulled off into a small car park about 200m down the road, with her following me thinking that she might follow me into the car park and we can exchange insurance details and such.

No... I thought wrong...

I pulled into the car park to inspect the damage, but I was the only one there - no small 4WD baring P plates behind me or anything; she had pulled a runner...

I couldn't even properly see her rego number as the plate was bashed in and obscured in many different ways from the impact.

I cannot express my anger, frustration and dissapointment without getting possibly getting banned from these forums due to my disgusting language... but I refrained so I should be alright! .
As we were both P platers at the time, I would have expected her to try to abide fully by the law and at very least give me her rego number. I knew I was doing the right thing by going straight to the cops to follow things up and see if there were any alternate ways of dealing with this, however there wasn't much I could do as I had no details; Only a massive dent in my bumper and a mildly dented boot.

Luckily dad knew a mate who worked in the insurance (the same company we are insured with too!) business and sorted things out... Admittedly as there were no details the claim took about a month and a half to process, and later proceeded to get the car back to its awesome, Mazda-like state!
a long time ago when this dumb **** hit my RH side door, she pulled in with me to the car park at a shopping centre... a bunch of excuses about the crash later, she said she "forgot" her insurance papers and had to go back to her flat just down the street to get it... she told me to follow her... guess what? She took off like a bat out of hell back onto the road and I had to go chase her down... got there and her boyfriend or whoever came out, they acted like nothing happened... exchanged insurance information and it turns out she had no coverage anyway, so I had to use my uninsured coverage with my insurance company

next time it happens to you, CHASE THEM DOWN
and ALWAYS call the police! Forget what the proper way to do things... here they won't come out unless it's a serious wreck or if there's injuries... so make them come by LYING ("Oh I feel a little dizzy")... who cares, I'm paying them with my taxes anyway!
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Old 28-05-2012, 05:17 PM   #93
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So I had a bit of spare time up my sleeve today, and decided to record my exhaust tone. Let me know what you think!

Exhaust
Just need some cams to get some lope going
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:41 PM   #94
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A few little things, not even worth calling an update...

The latest addition to the car - soon to be painted and put on the car:



Also reinstalled the dealership number plate frames - now everyone knows the car was bought from City Mazda - Oh and must change the rusted screws



And finally must get this serious issue fixed! - I couldn't be bothered doing the shoe test as I figured I could probably fit my whole friggin leg in there!




Also looking to sell my speakers (front 5x7's and rear 6x9's), so there might be a thread on this soon (maybe)
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:49 PM   #95
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Always thought of doing the 'evil M'
If you would like my to ruin its appeal.... It looks like 2 upside down strawberries, or 2 leaves
Or the playboy bunny ears! hehehe

And dude!... Omg! Get that issue fixed right now!
It's just dangerous to be driving your car like that!
Someone might mistake you for a granny! Ahahahahaha only joking bud!

Those speakers you selling stickies? Or aftermarket ones??
I'm not interested... But just incase someone else is lol
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:51 PM   #96
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Also diggin' the Projector look inside the BJ1 headlights





I'm thinking I may go ahead and retrofit some projectors inside my headlights... and also paint the inside of the black (after much inspiration and answered questions from Ben and BG1.8sp )
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:53 PM   #97
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Those speakers you selling stickies? Or aftermarket ones??
I'm not interested... But just incase someone else is lol
Aftermarket

Soundstream SPS-57 5x7s for the front
Dominator DOM693 6x9's for the rear ($30 cheapies from Autobarn, but they pump hard!)
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:01 PM   #98
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Plans for the lights sound good man!
If you are going to black the inserts, might be a good idea to remove the blinkers and smoke them lightly too... Actually you should be able to pull those apart also.. Would look odd with headlights black inserts but blinkers chrome...

Just a thought you should look into

EDIT: and if you have that chrome centre garnish/grille do that black with the lights. Again chrome grill with black lights... Kinda odd.
Colour coded would look the best tho (can be bothered to go into your pics and check)
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:21 PM   #99
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EDIT: and if you have that chrome centre garnish/grille do that black with the lights. Again chrome grill with black lights... Kinda odd.
Colour coded would look the best tho (can be bothered to go into your pics and check)
hahaha, all good!

Fortunately mine is already colour coded , so things should look in place. The BJ1's light setup is wired in that the indicator is a separate unit to the actual headlight housing.

So theres twice as much oven use required, twice as much painting needed etc etc, but I'll be alright
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:37 PM   #100
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Yeah I know, but if ya want it to look nice you gota do both. U will be sweet, it's a piece of pie! (no that does not mean cook them at 220 )
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