remote central locking

dragracingfish · 22-07-2009, 05:32 PM

Hi, want to convert my ba to keyless entry - but i want to put the keyless reciever behind the door panel and wire it to an added remote lock motor in the driver's door.
My question is - does the door have a permanent 12v to power the remote commander unit so i dont have to run wires from the driver's door
OR if this is not possible -
do u just fit another lock motor to the driver's door, wire this thru the driver's lock switch and then wire the remote commander into the central locking relay in the passenger well?
I'm trying to avoid having to run wires to the driver's door.

Cosmo Dude · 22-07-2009, 05:50 PM

Better to put the reciever in the passengers kick panel. The power and relays are in there, nice and easy.

Ghoru · 22-07-2009, 05:59 PM

by keyless entry do u mean the door "pops" for you so u dont have to use the handle or just remote lock/unlock?

DavoAust · 22-07-2009, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmo Dude

Better to put the reciever in the passengers kick panel. The power and relays are in there, nice and easy.

ah but then you need to run wires into the drivers door for the new motor anyway

I found it easiest to wire the reciever up under the dash, then running 2 wires into the drivers door to trigger the motor. triggering that motor causes all the doors to unlock through the existing central locking

project.r.racing · 22-07-2009, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavoAust

ah but then you need to run wires into the drivers door for the new motor anyway

I found it easiest to wire the reciever up under the dash, then running 2 wires into the drivers door to trigger the motor. triggering that motor causes all the doors to unlock through the existing central locking

that's what i did in mine. 7 years and still going.

dragracingfish · 22-07-2009, 06:39 PM

Mmmmm - i think the points been missed! - i dont want to run wires to the driver's door.
I want to know if there is a 12V source in the door so i can fit everything behind the panel - and use the remote controller to operate the "new" driver's door motor which in turn will operate the other door locks.

Cosmo Dude · 22-07-2009, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavoAust

ah but then you need to run wires into the drivers door for the new motor anyway

I found it easiest to wire the reciever up under the dash, then running 2 wires into the drivers door to trigger the motor. triggering that motor causes all the doors to unlock through the existing central locking

What makes you think the wires are not there already?

dragracingfish · 22-07-2009, 06:59 PM

I dont know - thats why i'm asking

Cosmo Dude · 22-07-2009, 07:10 PM

Sorry, that was ment for DavoAust.
Realisticly though the connections you want and need are in the passengers side kick pannel and they are negative switching.

I could open my drivers door and check, and often I would, but really... this time it's just too hard. CBF

Ghoru · 22-07-2009, 08:24 PM

depending on if you have electric mirrors and/or windows...and if they are 12v or not if not you will need to run wires. my alarm and remote locking i installed had a circuit that had a 0.5 sec pulse to hook up to locking motors ect and using a spare motor installed that in the drivers door and wired it to the pulse. at this point if you dont have the 12v there all ready it wont matter where you stick the reciever. mine worked fine until i filled the siren/receiver with water (dont ask)

Rix · 22-07-2009, 08:55 PM

@ Ryan how much did it cost for the system? is it part of an alarm system or what?

project.r.racing · 22-07-2009, 09:01 PM

$150 7 years ago. $250 nowadays i guess.

Rix · 22-07-2009, 09:13 PM

is that with an alarm or just the remote central locking?

project.r.racing · 22-07-2009, 09:16 PM

alarm + CL

Rix · 22-07-2009, 09:18 PM

OK, i'll look into it

thanks for the info also u never smsed me back:P

project.r.racing · 22-07-2009, 09:24 PM

you never smsed me!

Rix · 22-07-2009, 09:25 PM

yes i did:P

lambs · 22-07-2009, 11:56 PM

Can people post what systems they use ?? I'm also interested in a remote CL system and would like to know what systems have found to be reliable.

DavoAust · 23-07-2009, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmo Dude

What makes you think the wires are not there already?

i took a poke around mine with a multi when i was looking at installing an automatic window closer. i didnt find any 12v, i'll take a look at the 323f diagrams anyway. i'll edit this post when i'm done

dragracingfish · 23-07-2009, 12:41 AM

looking at the wiring diagrams from 323f - there should be 12v at the driver's door lock switch - with an earth being applied to the switch whenever the key lock is used.

i feel it would b a much neater and tidy way to fit the remote commander behind the door trim ( there is space under the window switches) so i dont have to try and feed wires thru the door connector ( it aint easy!) and i dont want to drill holes thru the door to pass wires as most installers do.

also a thought, how about a timer circuit on the drivers switch so that a short push on the remote fob operates the drivers door only, and a longer push operates all four doors.

22-07-2009, 05:32 PM	#1
dragracingfish Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: oakville Car: Laser/Astina Posts: 24	remote central locking Hi, want to convert my ba to keyless entry - but i want to put the keyless reciever behind the door panel and wire it to an added remote lock motor in the driver's door. My question is - does the door have a permanent 12v to power the remote commander unit so i dont have to run wires from the driver's door OR if this is not possible - do u just fit another lock motor to the driver's door, wire this thru the driver's lock switch and then wire the remote commander into the central locking relay in the passenger well? I'm trying to avoid having to run wires to the driver's door.

22-07-2009, 05:50 PM	#2
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	Better to put the reciever in the passengers kick panel. The power and relays are in there, nice and easy. __________________ My 'stina Hatch

22-07-2009, 05:59 PM	#3
Ghoru Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Rockhampton Car: '92 BG Astina Sp Posts: 999 View Photos By: Ghoru	by keyless entry do u mean the door "pops" for you so u dont have to use the handle or just remote lock/unlock? __________________ BG Astina - work in progress.... Scooters are like fat chicks, fun to ride until your mates find out... NOS is like a hot chick with AIDS, you know you wanna hit that,your just afraid of the consequences... http://www.eveonline.com/

22-07-2009, 07:10 PM	#9
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	Sorry, that was ment for DavoAust. Realisticly though the connections you want and need are in the passengers side kick pannel and they are negative switching. I could open my drivers door and check, and often I would, but really... this time it's just too hard. CBF __________________ My 'stina Hatch

22-07-2009, 08:24 PM	#10
Ghoru Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Rockhampton Car: '92 BG Astina Sp Posts: 999 View Photos By: Ghoru	depending on if you have electric mirrors and/or windows...and if they are 12v or not if not you will need to run wires. my alarm and remote locking i installed had a circuit that had a 0.5 sec pulse to hook up to locking motors ect and using a spare motor installed that in the drivers door and wired it to the pulse. at this point if you dont have the 12v there all ready it wont matter where you stick the reciever. mine worked fine until i filled the siren/receiver with water (dont ask) __________________ BG Astina - work in progress.... Scooters are like fat chicks, fun to ride until your mates find out... NOS is like a hot chick with AIDS, you know you wanna hit that,your just afraid of the consequences... http://www.eveonline.com/

22-07-2009, 06:39 PM	#6
dragracingfish Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: oakville Car: Laser/Astina Posts: 24	Mmmmm - i think the points been missed! - i dont want to run wires to the driver's door. I want to know if there is a 12V source in the door so i can fit everything behind the panel - and use the remote controller to operate the "new" driver's door motor which in turn will operate the other door locks.

22-07-2009, 06:59 PM	#8
dragracingfish Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: oakville Car: Laser/Astina Posts: 24	I dont know - thats why i'm asking

22-07-2009, 08:55 PM	#11
Rix Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunshine Coast Car: 1997 Mazda Astina Ba Posts: 1,205 View Photos By: Rix	@ Ryan how much did it cost for the system? is it part of an alarm system or what? __________________

22-07-2009, 09:01 PM	#12
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	$150 7 years ago. $250 nowadays i guess.

22-07-2009, 09:13 PM	#13
Rix Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunshine Coast Car: 1997 Mazda Astina Ba Posts: 1,205 View Photos By: Rix	is that with an alarm or just the remote central locking? __________________

22-07-2009, 09:16 PM	#14
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	alarm + CL

22-07-2009, 09:18 PM	#15
Rix Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunshine Coast Car: 1997 Mazda Astina Ba Posts: 1,205 View Photos By: Rix	OK, i'll look into it thanks for the info also u never smsed me back:P __________________

22-07-2009, 09:24 PM	#16
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	you never smsed me!

22-07-2009, 09:25 PM	#17
Rix Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sunshine Coast Car: 1997 Mazda Astina Ba Posts: 1,205 View Photos By: Rix	yes i did:P __________________

22-07-2009, 11:56 PM	#18
lambs Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne Car: R32 GTR, 260Z, BMW K100 Posts: 107	Can people post what systems they use ?? I'm also interested in a remote CL system and would like to know what systems have found to be reliable.

23-07-2009, 12:41 AM	#20
dragracingfish Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: oakville Car: Laser/Astina Posts: 24	looking at the wiring diagrams from 323f - there should be 12v at the driver's door lock switch - with an earth being applied to the switch whenever the key lock is used. i feel it would b a much neater and tidy way to fit the remote commander behind the door trim ( there is space under the window switches) so i dont have to try and feed wires thru the door connector ( it aint easy!) and i dont want to drill holes thru the door to pass wires as most installers do. also a thought, how about a timer circuit on the drivers switch so that a short push on the remote fob operates the drivers door only, and a longer push operates all four doors.