water/meth injection

[Clean_Cookie]

New thread for this random chat. So I can look back and review.

It appears this can be setup for approx $500, perfecting it costs more and loads of time. But for the most part, not a whole lot more than a quality welded intercooler job.

[Mad Mat]

http://www.d-series.org/forums/force...-ic-spray.html

[project.r.racing]

how much boost you running? do you have knocking at high boost applications?

do you want an intercooling pulling down temps 100% of the time or water injection working only in high boost, high rpm occassions?

[BG1.8sp]

Set yourself $1000-1500 or a good meth set up and tune.

I will dump a whole lot of info here tomorrow

[Mad Mat]

Originally Posted by BG1.8sp

Set yourself $1000-1500 or a good meth set up and tune.

I will dump a whole lot of info here tomorrow

no one wants ur **** here Azza..

[project.r.racing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkPFZWd8wj4

[BG1.8sp]

Originally Posted by Mad Mat

no one wants ur **** here Azza..

ahahah rofl!

awwww that would have hurt my feelings.... If I had any lol

[Clean_Cookie]

spoke to a tuner today for an hour about my project. he basically said do not do meth injection, buy a sprint 500 for approx 1K, and use that with an intercooler.

he said my 330cc injectors will be more than enough but buy a brand new sard/tomi etc. regulator and new walbro pump for failsafe fuel delivery. he was not interested in tuning with water induction, told me straight up i'll get more power from an intercooler etc. I will ask around and see if anyone has good experience with tuning etc.

[TheMAN]

I told you... forget that crap walbro pump... the FD or Supra fuel pump will do you just fine... the stock BP26 fuel regulator and fuel rail will also be fine for your power levels... he's right... 330cc injectors will work plenty good considering how my car just have 290ccs with a bigger engine!

[Clean_Cookie]

got a code for me for the pump? i see many upgrades from stock but no stock ones. I don't need a 800hp pump that's for sure. why do believe I won't require a RRFPR?

[project.r.racing]

Originally Posted by Clean_Cookie

spoke to a tuner today for an hour about my project. he basically said do not do meth injection, buy a sprint 500 for approx 1K, and use that with an intercooler.

he said my 330cc injectors will be more than enough but buy a brand new sard/tomi etc. regulator and new walbro pump for failsafe fuel delivery. he was not interested in tuning with water induction, told me straight up i'll get more power from an intercooler etc. I will ask around and see if anyone has good experience with tuning etc.

so he told you what everyone knows already?

[Mad Mat]

Originally Posted by Clean_Cookie

spoke to a tuner today for an hour about my project. he basically said do not do meth injection, buy a sprint 500 for approx 1K, and use that with an intercooler.

he said my 330cc injectors will be more than enough but buy a brand new sard/tomi etc. regulator and new walbro pump for failsafe fuel delivery. he was not interested in tuning with water induction, told me straight up i'll get more power from an intercooler etc. I will ask around and see if anyone has good experience with tuning etc.

Originally Posted by project.r.racing

so he told you what everyone knows already?

I think there is an ecco in the threads here ryan.. Or maybe the tuner was a chick in a short skirt od something..

[TheMAN]

Originally Posted by Clean_Cookie

got a code for me for the pump? i see many upgrades from stock but no stock ones. I don't need a 800hp pump that's for sure. why do believe I won't require a RRFPR?

because stock is already RR
I don't have the #, I can ask my mate

[mikey_something]

Supra pump is good for 400hp
Toyota. Part No. 23221-46110

[Clean_Cookie]

Thanks mikey!

Currently delving into the effects of water injection, and learning about how turbos really work is rather complicated and magnificent.

Sample post: " So, if choke occurs later, the compression could continue at higher wheel speed. The speed of sound increases in denser mediums, the factor of which I do not know.

I'm not familiar enough with vorticity other than I can see that disrupting of either the boundary layer or added sonic turbulance would lower compression by preventing laminar flow, and add heat to that air (turbulance) without compression. For the layman, is that what you are saying Adrian?

Choke occurs when the small diameter (inlet) of the impeller reaches sonic speeds. You think that the added density with water injection will slow the wheel to under Mach1, yes? Or, that the speed of sound will increase, permitting extension (more wheel speed) of compression until choke?"

This is way out of my depth.

[TheMAN]

you really need to buy this:


best n00b's guide to turbocharging
if it's not available in oz, I can get one and mail it to you

[Clean_Cookie]

Something like that would be intersing and informative. I'd imagine being a textbook, to be expensive.

[TheMAN]

only about $30

[Cosmo Dude]

http://www.pitstop.net.au/view/produ...uery/plu/8396/

$52 AUD which works out to about 20c per page.

[mikey_something]

i was under the impression that water injection was used to lower intake charge temps?
meth injection doing the same thing but also adding an octane element for higher boost applications?

have i gone too simple into this?