Pod Filters - Are they worth it ? - Page 2

Cosmo Dude · 28-06-2007, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newman

i just measured up the outer edge of the of the BG airbox (not the filter the actual box), 150mm x 260mm = 39000mm^2

then i went to the K&N product details website for my pod (http://www.rocketindustries.com.au/d...tno=KNRE-0910). got the measurements. i then calculated the outer surface area of the pod
203mm x 367.38mm = 74578mm^2

74578 / 39000 = 1.9123

So, surface area of my pod is nearly double that of the original panel filter...

And i personally found a dramatic difference between performance with the panel filter and the pod filter. I tried CAI setups on both and the panel filter has nothing on the pod filter.

I now don't have a CAI setup with the pod just like rob, and i find that performance is better than when i had the K&N panel filter with a CAI setup...

So you measured one and took the specs for the other (that you had) from a URL, that isn't very accurate.

newman · 28-06-2007, 10:31 PM

well i didn't want to have to pull my pod right out of the engine bay... thats the same pod i have in my car so the measurements would be the same if i measured them or used the dimentions off the website, and the airbox is sitting on my shelf. im not going to pull the filter out when the measurements are available on the internet

i measured the box too not the filter so it will be smaller again.

RedLineResident · 29-06-2007, 09:28 AM

Here's my issue. i wanted a POD but decided to go with a K&N panel because my air box has a few things on it which im not familiar with. Its got a sensor of some sort and a whole bunch of little hoses, I figured they were vacuums. Didn't wanna touch it in fear I would make matters worse.

Can the box be removed from a BA without any concequences and further tuning etc? Sorry to hijak the thread.

MAztinA 323 · 29-06-2007, 12:46 PM

pod ftw! sounds so much better than panel filter, the actual kw gains arent huge (i mean we're only in na cars) but i'd personally say a boxed pod with CAI would be the best combo. and i mean a decent box with like silicon etc or whatever keeps the heat out~

LordWorm · 29-06-2007, 07:15 PM

I've read some (anecdotal admittedly) evidence that suggests a panel filter will flow more, and less turbulently than a pod of simillar surface area, all things being equal.

Having said that, a pod definantly gives you more options (such as sticking it away in places where you can't fit/wouldn't want a panel filter).

Any sort of resonator free intake system is going to make noise - i have a modified stock air box with my resonators removed and it howls and carries on - so the noise consideration is really a moot point i think.

Indio · 30-06-2007, 11:42 AM

Do you have any pictures of you filter so I have a better idea ?

Cosmo Dude · 03-07-2007, 08:45 PM

I had a bit of a play around on the weekend.
I went down to Jaycar and picked up a thermometer with an external probe.
No matter what I did I couldn't get the under hood temp (probe sat between the battery and the air box) below 20C. Stop at lights and within 60 seconds the temp would approach 40C.
The next 5 minutes driving were spent dropping the temp back to 22C
I then put the sensor in the air box.
Driving I maintained about 12C and it took almost 5 minutes stationary for the temp in the air box to reach 18C (with the engine running).

All was done on the same Saturday morning with an average 10C ambient temp.

Dogo · 04-07-2007, 10:05 AM

I'm going to replace my pod with an airbox soon.
Not only bcoz the law says I have to but also the new turbo will love the cold air.

Devotion · 16-08-2007, 06:00 PM

man from what ive heard POD in a 1992 323 gives u a bit less than .1 more power but is alot better for the cars breathing and fuel econ so i dono wtf the pigs are crying about but u do wana think about getting defected for something that MOSt of us are lookin for is the power but its really **** all....ure better off to turbo the bitch and get it that way ...and for what else ive heard is that the standard egsaust on the 323 is real **** for breathing so i recommend anyone driving that car to do something about it ....

its what ive heard and from someone whos done it and tested it

Mad Mat · 16-08-2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupewrecht

No they're not.

An enclosed filter is the best option, with CAI ducting.

i agree with u rupe. i have currently got that in my car and there was a difference in performance but there is a even bigger difference if u have extractors aswell..

Putonyourshoes · 26-08-2007, 05:22 PM

dont go cheap if your going for a pod! they dont filter aswell as a panel filter unless you spend up with something good.
personally i took the pod out and replaced it with a high flow panel filter with an air feed.
feels great.
not looking back
economy has gone up heaps too..

lantisv6_12 · 17-10-2007, 06:45 AM

I was reading an article in the New Zealand Performance car magazine about tuning up a N/A car and it said to get the biggest airbox you can that will that is shaped to optimise airflow (bellmouth the intakes, use curves, etc), it went as far as to say to shift your battery to the boot and do what ever you can to get a bigger airbox.

28-06-2007, 10:31 PM	#22
newman Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brisbane Car: KF Laser fwd BPT Posts: 707	well i didn't want to have to pull my pod right out of the engine bay... thats the same pod i have in my car so the measurements would be the same if i measured them or used the dimentions off the website, and the airbox is sitting on my shelf. im not going to pull the filter out when the measurements are available on the internet i measured the box too not the filter so it will be smaller again. Last edited by newman; 28-06-2007 at 10:35 PM.

29-06-2007, 12:46 PM	#24
MAztinA 323 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eastwood, Sydney Car: 1989 Nissan Silvia CA18DET Posts: 583 View Photos By: MAztinA 323	pod ftw! sounds so much better than panel filter, the actual kw gains arent huge (i mean we're only in na cars) but i'd personally say a boxed pod with CAI would be the best combo. and i mean a decent box with like silicon etc or whatever keeps the heat out~ __________________

29-06-2007, 07:15 PM	#25
LordWorm Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: . Car: . Posts: 1,689	I've read some (anecdotal admittedly) evidence that suggests a panel filter will flow more, and less turbulently than a pod of simillar surface area, all things being equal. Having said that, a pod definantly gives you more options (such as sticking it away in places where you can't fit/wouldn't want a panel filter). Any sort of resonator free intake system is going to make noise - i have a modified stock air box with my resonators removed and it howls and carries on - so the noise consideration is really a moot point i think. __________________ Need parts? Contact sales@b3motorsports.com

03-07-2007, 08:45 PM	#27
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	I had a bit of a play around on the weekend. I went down to Jaycar and picked up a thermometer with an external probe. No matter what I did I couldn't get the under hood temp (probe sat between the battery and the air box) below 20C. Stop at lights and within 60 seconds the temp would approach 40C. The next 5 minutes driving were spent dropping the temp back to 22C I then put the sensor in the air box. Driving I maintained about 12C and it took almost 5 minutes stationary for the temp in the air box to reach 18C (with the engine running). All was done on the same Saturday morning with an average 10C ambient temp. __________________ My 'stina Hatch

04-07-2007, 10:05 AM	#28
Dogo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melb, Aus Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant Posts: 3,459 View Photos By: Dogo	I'm going to replace my pod with an airbox soon. Not only bcoz the law says I have to but also the new turbo will love the cold air. __________________ [ Turbo BA ] see my readers ride

29-06-2007, 09:28 AM	#23
RedLineResident Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Car: BA V6 Hardtop 5 Speed & 97 Prelude VTIR Posts: 1,518 View Photos By: RedLineResident	Here's my issue. i wanted a POD but decided to go with a K&N panel because my air box has a few things on it which im not familiar with. Its got a sensor of some sort and a whole bunch of little hoses, I figured they were vacuums. Didn't wanna touch it in fear I would make matters worse. Can the box be removed from a BA without any concequences and further tuning etc? Sorry to hijak the thread.

30-06-2007, 11:42 AM	#26
Indio Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney Car: Holden Zafira Posts: 34 View Photos By: Indio	Do you have any pictures of you filter so I have a better idea ?

16-08-2007, 06:00 PM	#29
Devotion Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Qld Brisbane Car: Astina 92 323 Posts: 37	hmmm man from what ive heard POD in a 1992 323 gives u a bit less than .1 more power but is alot better for the cars breathing and fuel econ so i dono wtf the pigs are crying about but u do wana think about getting defected for something that MOSt of us are lookin for is the power but its really ** all....ure better off to turbo the bitch and get it that way ...and for what else ive heard is that the standard egsaust on the 323 is real ** for breathing so i recommend anyone driving that car to do something about it .... its what ive heard and from someone whos done it and tested it

26-08-2007, 05:22 PM	#31
Putonyourshoes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: cronulla Car: 2L 96 BA hatch Posts: 1,131 View Photos By: Putonyourshoes	dont go cheap if your going for a pod! they dont filter aswell as a panel filter unless you spend up with something good. personally i took the pod out and replaced it with a high flow panel filter with an air feed. feels great. not looking back economy has gone up heaps too..

17-10-2007, 06:45 AM	#32
lantisv6_12 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Christchurch (NZ) Car: Mazda Lantis Type R Posts: 8	I was reading an article in the New Zealand Performance car magazine about tuning up a N/A car and it said to get the biggest airbox you can that will that is shaped to optimise airflow (bellmouth the intakes, use curves, etc), it went as far as to say to shift your battery to the boot and do what ever you can to get a bigger airbox.