vf10 turbo

egos_86 · 04-05-2007, 09:50 PM

is the VF10 turbo an aftermarket one or is it found on stock cars..if so which car am i lookin to find one on??

FEM · 04-05-2007, 10:01 PM

its a after market one as far as i know.. you might be able to find it on other cars.. but not familia GTX or GTR (i think) please correct me if im wrong!

. They go on the GTX as a hybrid set up i think, i was considering doing it but not for now!

Dan.

chicaboo · 05-05-2007, 01:14 AM

The VF10 is not aftermarket, it's from an automatic Subaru Liberty of some vintage. Ford and Subaru mostly use IHI turbos, so you can hybrid the VF10 to your stock VJ14/VJ20 using the stock VJ14/6 wastegate actuator but with the VF10's bigger wastegate flap with the wastegate port bored out to within 1.5~2mm radius of the bigger flap (to control boost creep).

That's more than what you wanted to know, but it roughly covers what you need to know... You might want to consider a VF12 over a VF10 if you have a BPT/GTX.
Gav.

EDIT: If you have an AUDM B6T you can use the higher flowing 55mm BPT/GTX cast dump with a custom J-pipe for better performance.

BigMal · 05-05-2007, 08:39 AM

http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_2683/article.html

ROB-80E · 05-05-2007, 12:28 PM

Another something you should look at if you are considering hybriding.

http://www.fordlaser.com/viewtopic.php?t=26377

zappy65 · 06-05-2007, 10:57 PM

what turbo do you have strapped to your GTR rob?

ROB-80E · 07-05-2007, 08:52 PM

A GTR one mate.

For those interested, here's the difference in my old custom VF10 to the GTR Familia turbo.

Dogo · 08-05-2007, 07:30 AM

My vf12 ( bigger than the vf10 ) hybrid next to the smaller original GTX turbo

chicaboo · 08-05-2007, 08:02 AM

Dave: Where did you get the right angle joint on the compressor?

Gav.

newman · 08-05-2007, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicaboo

Dave: Where did you get the right angle joint on the compressor?

Gav.

i'm sure thats the standard setup in the subaru.

Dogo · 08-05-2007, 12:14 PM

yeh it came like that.

dave0r · 08-05-2007, 04:06 PM

while where comparing our "sizes"

VJ20 vs TD05HR16g (evo 6 turbo)

egos_86 · 09-05-2007, 06:39 PM

tbh honest, im lookin for somethin which will pretty much bolt on without too much faffin about, and just a little more punchy than the stock gtx one dont want anythin that spools up after any more than 3000revs

...and its the newr gtx 1.8

chicaboo · 09-05-2007, 06:45 PM

Then you want a VF10 hybrid: so that means buy the complete VF10 and remove the exhaust housing then feed the core into the VJ20 (GTX) exhaust housing and you're done. You want to chase up a VJ14 or VJ6 actuator from what I read. I don't think you need to rebalance the blades by doing it this way, (but that's worth another opinion) or atleast getting it all done properly by a pro incase you're unco like me and knock the blades separating the housings...

Gav.

egos_86 · 09-05-2007, 07:03 PM

cheers gav, much appreciated.

so a vf10 is from only a scooby liberty auto, and is this a ball bearing turbo or another type, sorry im a noob when it comes to turbos, only just got the gtx a month ago.

Dogo · 09-05-2007, 08:35 PM

Its not a ball bearing turbo.

Have u made other upgrades yet ? There's a number of things you can and probably should do before worrying about the turbo. Intercooler, exhaust, fueling, timing etc.
You can bump the stock turbo up to about 12-14psi these basic mods.

Shaggy · 10-05-2007, 12:12 AM

Im just about to start work on a Vj20 – VF24 hybrid….Ill let you know how I get on!!!

egos_86 · 10-05-2007, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogo

Its not a ball bearing turbo.

Have u made other upgrades yet ? There's a number of things you can and probably should do before worrying about the turbo. Intercooler, exhaust, fueling, timing etc.
You can bump the stock turbo up to about 12-14psi these basic mods.

intercooler and boost controller will be the first, already got a 2.5 inch zorst but tbh, i was just interested into whats possible with limited funding. And when u say timing, what is involved and gained by that? cheers

89sp1.8 · 10-05-2007, 01:46 PM

soz bit off topic but..got a mate who has gtr engine has bit of work done,which was like that when he got it..it also has a greddy turbo..think same as evo 8..wat sorta psi do u think this thing was pushin b4 he got it? considering rob can push 22 out of the gtr..? mos include external waste gate,sub injectors..oil cooler..bov..fmic..boost controller..etc..but still had standar(not sure if its chipped) so still had afm too..

-dc- · 23-05-2007, 04:10 PM

roughly how much do you guys think it would cost on average to hybrid the stock gtx turbo? also i just wanted to clarify that the gtx/vf10 is a direct bolt on? also is this is only direct bolt on option for the gtx engine without having to modify everything to allow the fitment of another turbo.

04-05-2007, 09:50 PM	#1
egos_86 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester UK Car: 323f turbo Posts: 39	vf10 turbo is the VF10 turbo an aftermarket one or is it found on stock cars..if so which car am i lookin to find one on??

04-05-2007, 10:01 PM	#2
FEM Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane's West Car: Familia/Astina GTX Posts: 949 View Photos By: FEM	its a after market one as far as i know.. you might be able to find it on other cars.. but not familia GTX or GTR (i think) please correct me if im wrong! . They go on the GTX as a hybrid set up i think, i was considering doing it but not for now! Dan. __________________ My Story.. http://www.astinagt.com/forums/vbpic...?do=view&g=394[/CENTER]

05-05-2007, 01:14 AM	#3
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	The VF10 is not aftermarket, it's from an automatic Subaru Liberty of some vintage. Ford and Subaru mostly use IHI turbos, so you can hybrid the VF10 to your stock VJ14/VJ20 using the stock VJ14/6 wastegate actuator but with the VF10's bigger wastegate flap with the wastegate port bored out to within 1.5~2mm radius of the bigger flap (to control boost creep). That's more than what you wanted to know, but it roughly covers what you need to know... You might want to consider a VF12 over a VF10 if you have a BPT/GTX. Gav. EDIT: If you have an AUDM B6T you can use the higher flowing 55mm BPT/GTX cast dump with a custom J-pipe for better performance. Last edited by chicaboo; 07-05-2007 at 01:16 AM.

05-05-2007, 08:39 AM	#4
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05-05-2007, 12:28 PM	#5
ROB-80E Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SE QLD, Australia Car: Turbo BG Astina Posts: 792 View Photos By: ROB-80E	Another something you should look at if you are considering hybriding. http://www.fordlaser.com/viewtopic.php?t=26377 __________________ BG Astina + GTR conversion + Microtech ECU + FMIC + 3" pipes and Exhaust x 21psi boost = 12.168 to the power of 326whp

06-05-2007, 10:57 PM	#6
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07-05-2007, 08:52 PM	#7
ROB-80E Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SE QLD, Australia Car: Turbo BG Astina Posts: 792 View Photos By: ROB-80E	A GTR one mate. For those interested, here's the difference in my old custom VF10 to the GTR Familia turbo. __________________ BG Astina + GTR conversion + Microtech ECU + FMIC + 3" pipes and Exhaust x 21psi boost = 12.168 to the power of 326whp

08-05-2007, 07:30 AM	#8
Dogo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melb, Aus Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant Posts: 3,459 View Photos By: Dogo	My vf12 ( bigger than the vf10 ) hybrid next to the smaller original GTX turbo Attached Thumbnails __________________ [ Turbo BA ] see my readers ride

08-05-2007, 08:02 AM	#9
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	Dave: Where did you get the right angle joint on the compressor? Gav.

08-05-2007, 12:14 PM	#11
Dogo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melb, Aus Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant Posts: 3,459 View Photos By: Dogo	yeh it came like that. __________________ [ Turbo BA ] see my readers ride

08-05-2007, 04:06 PM	#12
dave0r AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tauranga Car: Astina GT Turbo Posts: 302 View Photos By: dave0r	while where comparing our "sizes" VJ20 vs TD05HR16g (evo 6 turbo) __________________ 1996 ST205 Toyota Celica GT4 Gone 1991 Astina GT, 102wkw/138whp Built a KL-ZE 220whp engine for a KF Laser

09-05-2007, 06:39 PM	#13
egos_86 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester UK Car: 323f turbo Posts: 39	tbh honest, im lookin for somethin which will pretty much bolt on without too much faffin about, and just a little more punchy than the stock gtx one dont want anythin that spools up after any more than 3000revs ...and its the newr gtx 1.8

09-05-2007, 06:45 PM	#14
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	Then you want a VF10 hybrid: so that means buy the complete VF10 and remove the exhaust housing then feed the core into the VJ20 (GTX) exhaust housing and you're done. You want to chase up a VJ14 or VJ6 actuator from what I read. I don't think you need to rebalance the blades by doing it this way, (but that's worth another opinion) or atleast getting it all done properly by a pro incase you're unco like me and knock the blades separating the housings... Gav. Last edited by chicaboo; 09-05-2007 at 07:22 PM.

09-05-2007, 07:03 PM	#15
egos_86 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester UK Car: 323f turbo Posts: 39	cheers gav, much appreciated. so a vf10 is from only a scooby liberty auto, and is this a ball bearing turbo or another type, sorry im a noob when it comes to turbos, only just got the gtx a month ago.

09-05-2007, 08:35 PM	#16
Dogo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Melb, Aus Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant Posts: 3,459 View Photos By: Dogo	Its not a ball bearing turbo. Have u made other upgrades yet ? There's a number of things you can and probably should do before worrying about the turbo. Intercooler, exhaust, fueling, timing etc. You can bump the stock turbo up to about 12-14psi these basic mods. __________________ [ Turbo BA ] see my readers ride Last edited by Dogo; 09-05-2007 at 08:39 PM.

10-05-2007, 12:12 AM	#17
Shaggy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: southwest coast, uk Car: 323f BA BPT TURBO Posts: 197 View Photos By: Shaggy	Im just about to start work on a Vj20 – VF24 hybrid….Ill let you know how I get on!!! __________________ --------------------------------------------- *****TheMysteryMachine***** --------------------------------------------- http://www.club323f.com

10-05-2007, 01:46 PM	#19
89sp1.8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brisbane Car: bg astina Posts: 1,186	soz bit off topic but..got a mate who has gtr engine has bit of work done,which was like that when he got it..it also has a greddy turbo..think same as evo 8..wat sorta psi do u think this thing was pushin b4 he got it? considering rob can push 22 out of the gtr..? mos include external waste gate,sub injectors..oil cooler..bov..fmic..boost controller..etc..but still had standar(not sure if its chipped) so still had afm too..

23-05-2007, 04:10 PM	#20
-dc- Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney Australia Car: BA Hatch Posts: 631 View Photos By: -dc-	roughly how much do you guys think it would cost on average to hybrid the stock gtx turbo? also i just wanted to clarify that the gtx/vf10 is a direct bolt on? also is this is only direct bolt on option for the gtx engine without having to modify everything to allow the fitment of another turbo. __________________ PARTS FOR SALE!!! Have a look!!CLICK HERE! MORE PARTS FOR SALE!!! Have a look!! CLICK HERE TO CHECK IT OUT!!