HID for 97 BA HT

[project.r.racing]

X5s and 300Cs are high vechicles, the accord is lower and the lights will not blind you as much.

[gtarone]

Yeah i'm thinking i'll take a stab at the cheap HIDs, my car is low enough it shouldn't worry anyone anyways. cheers guys, i'll keep you posted on the outcome.

[phildough]

Originally Posted by 70NYD

RIGHT? sorry i know its silly but 95% of xenon or hid bulbs on ebay are halogens..

If you have forgotten you periodic table from chemistry at school Xenon is one of the halogens anyway,

[mikey_something]

chemistry

xenon are better than traditional argon (or sometimes vacuum) bulbs because xenon conducts heat far better than argon.
this allows the bulb to be more efficient and in HID's case, conduct the heat of 23000V better without blowing up

also being higher atomic number on the table, it is a larger atom and is better able to reflect the filament ionised particles back onto the filament to stop it burning away (traditional bulbs) and better at keeping the nodes in one piece in HID's

[70NYD]

furthermore to what mikey said, incandescent halogen bulbs contain a mixture of a halogen gas (series 17) and a noble gas(series 18), be it xenon or whatever that helps redeposit tungsten back on to the filament and prolongue the light of the bulb or give greater efficiency for same time.
high intensity discharge bulbs work without a filament and have electrodes, a noble gas and a metal salt. the light is given from the plazma that is generated by electrons moving throguh the salt once it vaporises, but the initial vapourisation happens when the gas heats up from the electron flow. there are other methods of use for HID bulbsm some without metal salts, but this is in refference to cars

[mikey_something]

collective knowledge of the astina forum > who wants to be a millionaire?

[Brisbane_boy]

and this is y i only did science upto grade 10.
u guys are WAY to technical for me.

[asanga]

Originally Posted by Brisbane_boy

and this is y i only did science upto grade 10.
u guys are WAY to technical for me.

no need to be technical these days....as long as u know how to google things! anyone can be a expert ....in theory that is!

[mikey_something]

Originally Posted by asanga

no need to be technical these days....as long as u know how to google things! anyone can be a expert ....in theory that is!

i know exactly how to take my dashboard apart... in theory

[70NYD]

haha i knew how to take my dashboard apart in theory as well, now i can do it in practise as well, but yes Google is awesome, i would fail half of my projects without it awesome research tool internet is

[Wonka]

Mikey,

I got some high intensity bulbs from repco and gives out 2000 lumens. But my BA astina still have shocking lighting. Do you know how many lumens are your 35W HIDs?

[project.r.racing]

35W should have 3200 lumens from what i read.

[mikey_something]

Originally Posted by Wonka

Mikey,

I got some high intensity bulbs from repco and gives out 2000 lumens. But my BA astina still have shocking lighting. Do you know how many lumens are your 35W HIDs?

Normal BA halogens give out around 1000 Lumens from what i recall
my 6000K HID's 35W give out 3200 Lumens
so 3x more light onto the road

You're putting out about 2x the light.
which should be noticeably different to your old bulbs and certainly much better.
if its not you might want to check the alignment of your headlights, they could be throwing the light in the wrong spots

if you are still after more light then i think HID is the real only way to go
for the most light go for about 4300 - 5000K HID's which put out a maximum of 4200 Lumens, 4x the normal output of the BA halogens
just be aware though that with those, you WILL annoy every single other driver on the road.

[project.r.racing]

Since this convo started, I've noticed lots of Honda Euro Accords driving behind and towards me. I have no problem with their headlight brightness. Once when at the right angle, I did an eyeful, but it was just a millisecond.

So projector = okay?

[Clean_Cookie]

Originally Posted by project.r.racing

Since this convo started, I've noticed lots of Honda Euro Accords driving behind and towards me. I have no problem with their headlight brightness. Once when at the right angle, I did an eyeful, but it was just a millisecond.

So projector = okay?

yes ryan, IN LOW CARS! id hate to see a lifted 4wd even with projector housings, driving behind me!

anyway ive not been flashed but stick with 35W... 55W is great for highbeams but asking for trouble - but in reality not sure how much more light they actually produce (id guess 20%-30% more...?

[70NYD]

yeah thats what iv been saying all along. projectors is what is used for HIDs since i knew about cars. aparently according to wiki the 1st ever hid was in a reflector housing, but it didnt work like they thought it would. i think it has something to do with the light that randomly disperses being too bright compared to randomly dispersed light from a standard incadecent bulb.

[Brisbane_boy]

Originally Posted by tc3_racer_001

yes ryan, IN LOW CARS! id hate to see a lifted 4wd even with projector housings, driving behind me!

anyway ive not been flashed but stick with 35W... 55W is great for highbeams but asking for trouble - but in reality not sure how much more light they actually produce (id guess 20%-30% more...?

Yer iv started seeing big lifter 4wd using HIDs.
To be honest im suprized its taken this long, considering they spend heaps on spot lights ect tying to get the best lighting possible.
But thats what will bring the attention to HID users. and they deffnitly blind the hell out of ya.

[Clean_Cookie]

saw a prado with them tonight. wow. dangerous much? especially since i got them for less than $70, the buys with their spotties spend what, 300-500 on a good set, now all they have to do, is buy a cheap housing and some 55W hids... also fog lights, seeing more and more hids in them, even yellow ones. they are becoming worse than the headlights *moan* anyway FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW AND MAY RANDOMLY READ THIS BY MISTAKE: FOG LIGHTS ARE USED WHEN DRIVING IN FOG... NOT WITH YOUR PARKERS IN THE MORNING BECAUSE IT LOOKS GOOD>

/end rant.

[mikey_something]

Originally Posted by tc3_racer_001

saw a prado with them tonight. wow. dangerous much? especially since i got them for less than $70, the buys with their spotties spend what, 300-500 on a good set, now all they have to do, is buy a cheap housing and some 55W hids... also fog lights, seeing more and more hids in them, even yellow ones. they are becoming worse than the headlights *moan* anyway FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW AND MAY RANDOMLY READ THIS BY MISTAKE: FOG LIGHTS ARE USED WHEN DRIVING IN FOG... NOT WITH YOUR PARKERS IN THE MORNING BECAUSE IT LOOKS GOOD>

/end rant.

unfortunately i'm one of those "with my parkers cause it looks good" guys. however mien aren't nearly bright enough to cause any trouble i dont think.
but i mainly just reserve them for "adverse conditions" which isn't normally fog. i flick them on mainly for rain and very overcast conditions

[RustyKaos]

At the moment I only have leds in my fogs and use them all the time but when I upgrade my hids in them they will only be turned on when necessary.