|
21-05-2008, 01:30 PM | #1 |
Junior Member
|
Opinions on speakers
Hi All
I've finally upgraded my stock CD player in the Astina V6! I bought the Sony CDX-GT570. and to my shock disbelief, the stock speakers don't cut it! Firstly, can I ask what size are the font and back and what brand will give me the best value for my money? I would like only to spend $100 - $130 a pair. Thanks Z |
Sponsored Links |
21-05-2008, 01:42 PM | #2 |
Administrator
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: melb.vic.au
Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle
Posts: 16,525
|
You'll find the standard sizes here:
http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8759
__________________
jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--|--SLOWTEGE--|--BEETLE--|--SUBSTITUTE--|--AZ-1 |
21-05-2008, 01:44 PM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Melb, Aus
Car: Mazda 323 BA BPT transplant
Posts: 3,459
|
Spend your $$ on better speakers for the front rather than average speakers front and back. Turn the rears off or down a bit.
Your ears are up front - thats where you want the good sound to be. |
21-05-2008, 01:54 PM | #4 |
Administrator
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: melb.vic.au
Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle
Posts: 16,525
|
Also, you can fit 6" round speakers be using an MDF spacer to fill the 5x7 hole.
__________________
jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--|--SLOWTEGE--|--BEETLE--|--SUBSTITUTE--|--AZ-1 |
21-05-2008, 08:07 PM | #5 |
Junior Member
|
Thanks guys .... any recommendations for speaker brands?
|
22-05-2008, 12:54 AM | #6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Brisbane
Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R
Posts: 2,930
|
avoid sony atm, they are dodgy.
jvc are ok budget, kenwood are average too. pioneer have some decent splits and alpine have some really good ones going cheap at the moment. i saw a set of $350 splits down to $160 the other day at JB, was so tempted to get them
__________________
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT |
26-05-2008, 11:18 PM | #7 |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ipswich, Queensland
Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon
Posts: 9,769
|
if you dont want to go to a lot of effort (read lazy like me ), invest in some JL 120w 5x7" 2ways, I think JB still stock them for around $120 for the pair, I have had mine in my sp20 for near 2 years and they still hammer, very precise and clear.
marc
__________________
|
27-05-2008, 09:50 PM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SE Brissy
Car: Old: 1989 DOHC Mazda 323 New: Nissan 180SX Type X
Posts: 2,135
|
I personally dont like Alpine for speakers, As Dogo said, spend your money on the fronts, trust me you'll save alot of money if you adhere to this simple rule, I just invested in a set of Boston 6" splits and they are the best speakers (for my ears) that i have ever heard!!! (Apart from Rockford Fosgate....with most good speakers a spacer will do but if the magnet is too big, you'll have to invest in some door pods like me.....lol
__________________
Today you will die and then you will know what it feels like to live... Straights Are For Fast Cars, Corners Are For Fast Drivers: Colin McRae Visit My Ride: http://www.astinagt.com/forums/vbpic...?do=view&g=319 Come see my deviantness....hehe http://dawnblade.deviantart.com/ |
27-05-2008, 10:38 PM | #9 |
Administrator
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: melb.vic.au
Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle
Posts: 16,525
|
And on the other hand, i quite like my Alpine DDRs in the front, they're not too bright and have a nice warm sound. I can't stand overly bright speakers.
It really comes down to personal choice. Most good audio placed will have a sound board where you can at least hear the difference between speakers, but they'll probably sound a little different again once in a car.
__________________
jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--|--SLOWTEGE--|--BEETLE--|--SUBSTITUTE--|--AZ-1 |
29-05-2008, 09:03 AM | #10 |
Junior Member
|
OK .... the alpine splits could be the go ...... has anyone done an install of this kind of speaker set-up to give me an idea of what's involved?
|
03-06-2008, 11:54 PM | #11 |
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: S.A
Car: protege 323
Posts: 128
|
i can vouch for MTX speakers..
pretty expensive.. but are good quality. Last edited by mickey_323; 03-06-2008 at 11:55 PM. Reason: damn typos |
08-06-2008, 03:44 PM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: .
Car: .
Posts: 1,689
|
Dynaudio splits - if you have the money to buy them
i like the sound of alpine TypeX as well... |
08-06-2008, 06:37 PM | #13 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SE Brissy
Car: Old: 1989 DOHC Mazda 323 New: Nissan 180SX Type X
Posts: 2,135
|
Focal, Boston, MTX, Kicker and Bose are all pretyy good to my ear....
The Focal and Bostons are way $$$ though but the sound range is excellent... The MTX, Kicker and Bose are all good and are slightly less priced then the above but they run very well from what ive listened too.
__________________
Today you will die and then you will know what it feels like to live... Straights Are For Fast Cars, Corners Are For Fast Drivers: Colin McRae Visit My Ride: http://www.astinagt.com/forums/vbpic...?do=view&g=319 Come see my deviantness....hehe http://dawnblade.deviantart.com/ |
09-06-2008, 12:39 AM | #14 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney Lakemba
Car: mx-6 626 Gs300 Maz2 was 95 KF BA-HT
Posts: 2,024
|
I just thought I'd add this in
LET YOUR EARS decide. Even take your own music to test station and if you can run it the way you will in your car. No amp - AMP. Hi cut off no cut off etc. Alot of people use to freak when I had only $30 speakers in my old wagon because it sounded more like hi end Clarion or Alpine. but because it was setup my way for my music. I liked it and It showed. Every speaker is different and all music is different. I even know my old HQ 7X10's in the back of my mx are excellent all round but are perfect for my music. But they ain't that great on some of techno or what I call Made up fake music. EG guy on Pc. I like any thing from OPERA to old school RAP - Eg pre blin Pre Rich rap guys. So its hard. to get right balance. Also take note some cars just don't have the location. If you look at some really good factory sount system and look at the speaker loactions and position. Going to splits even off the head unit and just positioned well can make massive difference to the sound. |
09-06-2008, 02:18 PM | #15 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Brisbane
Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R
Posts: 2,930
|
Quote:
otherwise the easiest way i found to do it is tracing the outlines of old and new speakers on paper, cutting it out and adjusting it till its right then tracing on mdf and cutting it out. also paint the spacer before you put it in, nice thick layers to water proof it. best place to mount the split for me was just behind the A pillar on the door top. if you get the right shape holder/mount it'll be a flush neat job.
__________________
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT |
|
07-07-2008, 12:17 AM | #16 |
Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Car: 1994 323 Astina Shades
Posts: 4
|
I just got some mtx speakers in the front and kenwood 6x9s in the back, kenwood amps, subs and dvd player in my astina and it goes off!! would reccomend it to anyone...didnt cost me too much and its awesome quality...heaps better then my old alpine set up
|
08-07-2008, 09:01 AM | #17 |
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: North Parramatta, NSW
Car: 2005 Polo GTi
Posts: 198
|
$100-$130 won't go far...
you're looking at $250 to get something decent... $200 minimum My first pair were $190 JBL 6.5" splits... i thought they were good... wnd they definitely are great value... and then i found some alpine type r of the same size for $239 down at the jb-hifi stall at summernats... I think they're normally at least $300... and they are fantastic! my tip... don't do it half assed... you will only be disappointed and end up wanting to start again... keep saving bud... buy your stereo piece by piece |
08-07-2008, 06:37 PM | #18 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: .
Car: .
Posts: 1,689
|
well put..
correct installation and tuning is at least as important as high end gear. Obviously cheaper stuff will only go "so far" but with some effort it can sound amazing. |
09-07-2008, 01:35 AM | #19 |
Veni, vidi, vici
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Brisbane
Car: 1996 BA Hatch & 2005 RX8
Posts: 4,911
|
ye you really notice the cheapness of some the tweater parts of 2-3-4 way as it distorts quite abit as soon as the mid range of power output is passed. like its been said forkout for a good set of speakers at the front, switch the back ones of and wire it so that both front and rear left channels go to the left speaker, and so forth for right. that way ur getting all the power where it counts, where you are. unless you want to build a car to suit ur rear passangers, you wont even notice that the back ones are on or off, most of the sound is directed at the rear footplate and muffled by the seats and the carpet, unless you are putting them on the back shelf, then go all out there, rear window will angle the sound very nicely. might wanna get some pods for the rear and face the speakers up just a bit more so they face in to the cabin. just dont face them at the roof cus then it will sound quiter again
|
|
|