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Old 11-09-2004, 02:13 PM   #21
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couldnt we just just chuck that 929 bonnet on when combatting height?

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Old 11-09-2004, 03:40 PM   #22
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couldnt we just just chuck that 929 bonnet on when combatting height?

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Yeah, I've only got two spares :lol:
The more I look at the BP to FE conversion the more I'm convinced that you realy want to know what you're doing to plan such a project or you would need to start with realy deep pockets full of cash.
Even then you'd need to be commited (maybe to an asylum) :twisted:
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Old 11-09-2004, 08:33 PM   #23
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cant argue with that

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Old 12-09-2004, 01:37 AM   #24
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yep im puzzled too. youde think itd work best in v6 BA astina shell...but we could be wrong!
why? - whats the difference? :? :P
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Old 12-09-2004, 01:42 AM   #25
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yep im puzzled too. youde think itd work best in v6 BA astina shell...but we could be wrong!
but there's no differeance between the 1.8 and V6 shell!

there is between BA hardtop and BA hatch shell, but not much!
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Old 12-09-2004, 01:47 AM   #26
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yep im puzzled too. youde think itd work best in v6 BA astina shell...but we could be wrong!
but there's no differeance between the 1.8 and V6 shell!

there is between BA hardtop and BA hatch shell, but not much!
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Old 12-09-2004, 01:49 AM   #27
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yep im puzzled too. youde think itd work best in v6 BA astina shell...but we could be wrong!
but there's no differeance between the 1.8 and V6 shell!

there is between BA hardtop and BA hatch shell, but not much!
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:15 PM   #28
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geez just when u think uve heard it once........hehe nah what i meant was "if" (and a big if at that) the FE3 engine is noted as 'dropping strait in' to a probe GT and a 2nd gen mx6 (both cars with K series engines), then wouldnt it make sense to try the conversion with an astina which also has a K series engine as stock... maybe im offtrack but i thought thatd be the case

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Old 12-09-2004, 08:46 PM   #29
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This would assume that the engine brackets (not just the mounting points) are the same in the B series and K series engines and therefore the same as the probe GT and a 2nd gen mx6 which have the option of the F series and the K series engines.
We know that to change a BA 2.0 V6 to a 2.5 V6 you need to retain the Astina inlet manifold to fit the combo under the hood. Height is an issue.
From what I've read the FE3 has a bucket load more potential than the BP and that would be a good reason to consider the change but only if you've reached the performance limit of the BP or intend to exceed it.
Remember you can source BP stroker kits from the US to get the same cubes for arguably less than an FE conversion would cost.
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Old 13-09-2004, 04:07 PM   #30
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hmm sorry for my ignorance but would something like that be suited to a NA application?

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Old 13-09-2004, 04:23 PM   #31
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u mean the stroker kit ? yes it would
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Old 13-09-2004, 05:13 PM   #32
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well im sorry i cant go into too much detail as to why it wont work, the tuner told me but the dissapointment made me not really bother with the whole story. I know u will have to get a gearbox from a 626(or similiar), new sidshafts, and the engine bay needs alot of cutting and modding just to get it to fit, the guy told me it would cost in the region of R50 000 (AU $11 500) to get it in, over here for half that i can run in the region of 200kw atw with the BP05. but ja il see if i can remember anything else
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Old 13-09-2004, 06:08 PM   #33
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what would the chances of running the ba V6 inlet on the FE3??
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Old 13-09-2004, 06:21 PM   #34
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what would the chances of running the ba V6 inlet on the FE3??
Which part? Any part of the manifold would be useles as it has 6 inlet ports (3 on each side) and the FE has four in a row.
The height restriction in this the actual engine as the block is taller on the FE than the BP.
In a BJ I'd be looking at the SP20 motor. That should drop straight in as it's available in that model. Mazda 6 2.3 litre has the inlet at the front and exhaust at the rear making that more difficult again.
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Old 13-09-2004, 06:27 PM   #35
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hahaha, sorry i'm not thinking again!!!

naaa not for my car anyway, jsut was thinking of things that may work

in that case the intake runners??? off the BP, was thinking this may help the clearance issue
otherwise get a bonnet scoop that sits high enough to be able to close the bonnet!!!
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Old 13-09-2004, 11:47 PM   #36
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I just wanted to know why it couldn't be done. I wouldn't really do one you can
get more than enough power from a BPT. Its OK for the MX5 guys cause they
can run a RX7 gearbox which they do anyway to handle the power we are stuck
again with minimal gearbox options unless you consider a 626 AWD or Sportage
box but as far as I know the sportage is a FWD/AWD in times of loss of traction.
Not a good thing for spirited driving to suddenly get a push from the rear when
you got no traction at the front.
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It can be done but from the solomiata article the extra height, 11mm length, different transmission, alternator and power steering pump locations make the fitting so much harder.
I am sugesting a lot of caution and planning would be required before someone goes ahead with this mod.
The reason I am so interested is because my car has an FE to start with, I want more power and a BP conversion would be the the hard way for me while the FE3 appeals due to its relative bolt up simplicity.
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Old 14-09-2004, 11:20 PM   #38
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I totally agree mate and that build with the chevy rods and nice forgies,
big crank, valves etc is just music to the ears and right foot isn't it
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That 2.3 job does sweeten the pot considerably and with the amount of detail and part numbers supplied make it look easy. I've been out pricing Sportage engines and the $2000 price tag puts it out of reach at present.


The Sportage engine sits length ways not across making it ideal for conversion into the 929
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