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View Poll Results: HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN TURBOING THEIR 1.8 BJ 323
I am very interested 14 48.28%
I am sort of interested 3 10.34%
I would be interested but it is a very expensive way to boost the performance of my car 6 20.69%
I would be interested but am concerned about what it might do to engine or gear box 2 6.90%
I would be interested but i think buying a sports car in the first place is a better option 3 10.34%
I would be interested but i dont think the car would be drivable or be as quick as i want it to be 1 3.45%
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Old 22-10-2004, 10:54 AM   #21
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I've found a shop up here thats willing to help me out with anything, I want to try and do as much myself as possible, as thats where the fun is, but get guidance from these guys, we have a number of shops specialising in turbos up here, so I've got plenty of information at my fingertips
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Old 23-10-2004, 09:00 AM   #22
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Hey Sacah,

I think the single hardest thing to do having seen the photos of the install is cutting the holes for the FMIC plumbing and trying to do the bolts behind/under the headers. I don't know how difficult or risky it is lifting out sections of the interior to do the loom and Haltech but it sure does look scary...
The most interesting part of it all after finishing the install will be driving around for a week or so with default tuning & stock exhaust (or whatever you have) until getting a bigger more turbo friendly exhaust put in. They say on the SD and HB sites this adds 20whp if done properly. Then I suppose you go get it tuned after the exhorst is in?

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Old 25-10-2004, 10:52 PM   #23
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hmm.. the post about paying more for sp20? well... you got a good point, but remember its not just the engine, its the other stuff too.. but is it worth 10k they charged for sp20 over the normal one? i dunno..

the kit? (i like it a lot )
the power all
5 stud ( :twisted: does it really do that much more? )
AND! the sp20 stickers :wink:


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Old 26-10-2004, 03:00 AM   #24
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hey there guys,
the main differences with the street dreams kit are...

- reworked piping, to match our cars
- Haltech E6X full ignition computer
- Haltech RA8 to get rid of a miss in our computers caused by the Aus model
- Aussie installation manual (including haltech wiring)
- Aussie Fuel and ignition maps

We first chose the E6X instead of the F10 as the only way to stop our cars from pinging was to retard the timing slightly... this was caused by the following factors
- slightly higher compression on Aussie models
- much crappier fuel than the map was setup for

in basic Aussie standard figures your looking at around 140kw at the wheels at 7-8psi

As alwasy i am more than happy to answer any questions. The reason we sell a slightly modified version of the hiboost kit is because it saves you going through the hours of head aches we had to start with.... plus saves you the extra cost of a full ignition computer as we include it in the kit

you can install a kit in around 2 days and its back on the road... even if you were a mechanical noob you could finish the install slowly over around a week or so. Its ready to run out the box, and you have the trust that its already working on other cars, therefore its not a pipe dream

most techy part of install:
- Soldering part of the loom (instructions all the way)
- using hole saw to cut cooler pipe holes
- cutting hole in sump for return line
- connecting map sensor

hope this helps quell any fears
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Old 26-10-2004, 07:15 AM   #25
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I am very interested, but voted for "sort of" because i just can not see way to fund it.

My life revovles around debt, and being in it complicates things a little.

Does my 1.8 KQ Laser have the "FS" engine?

What about the local "streetdreams" kit?

HiBoost is American aint it? with conversion rates, shipping and installation i think it'll work out to be the close to the same price as the streetdreams kit.



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Old 26-10-2004, 12:51 PM   #26
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Does the Street Dreams kit suit a 1.8L and how much?
The HiBoost one will be about $5500AUD including everything.
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Old 26-10-2004, 01:39 PM   #27
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once you pay shipping, conversion rate, price of the difference for an E6X and lets not all forgeeeet about CUSTOMS, who take a nice little chunk on something this expensive... their price of $8500 is FAT figure.

This was set when the dollar was not doing as well as today....

They can do a group buy price but until you purchase they can't give an exact price for obvious reasons... I wish they still had them in stock but tooo many people were placing orders and not coming up with the cash so they need a 50% up front payment

All i CAN say from personal experience is its good to be a bargain hunter but sometimes it pays to pay the price... as i have said a million times the street dreams kit costs around the price it does (cheaper these days) because they brought the kit out for me. spent 2 weeks ****ing around to make everything perfect... got it running an E6X...(RRP $1600) then tuned it and tuned it and tuned it... created instructions etc

Your not just paying for the kit your also paying for the knowledge that went into making it work here properly...
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Old 26-10-2004, 05:38 PM   #28
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Thanks wiredone you have really put things into perspective, man its hard for me cause there are so many options out there and im just not sure what to do i know i will be going with a kit but im just not sure who with, i am swaying towards street dreams because they are a local company and easy to contact unlike hiboost.

A couple of questions:

How does street dreams modify the kit for the 1.8 Litre engine?
Has Street Dreams impoted the kit for the 1.8 Litre engine before?
If so what Dyno figures have you seen with the 1.8 Litre?
Is 130-135kw atw a realistic figure running 7psi boost?
What sort of torque figures car we achieve in the 1.8 Litre?
What sort of clutch would you recomend that we use?
From the time of ordering the kit how long would it take to get to australia?
What is the official price for the Street Dreams 1.8 Litre kit?
How much would you allow for a turbo back exhaust (im assuming the kit doesnt come with one) and what size exhaust would you use?
Also how long would you expect it to take three fully qualified mechanics to fit the kit (two of whic have experiance fitting turbo kits or working on turboed japaneese imports?
Will we have issues fitting the FMIC as it is designed for a sp20 style bumper?
At the end of the day it all comes down to dollars and cents and i think street dreams will come out on top as there is alot of uncertainty with the Hiboost kit.

I understand if you cant answer some of my questions but it would be greatly appreaciated if you can help me out wiredone, as i intend on getting my car to Autosalon next year and the turbo is a major aspect of my plans.

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Old 26-10-2004, 06:48 PM   #29
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Ok I'll try and answer all your questions as sincerely as possible

- How does street dreams modify the kit for the 1.8 Litre engine?
I am not going to go into detail about the actual exact changes as that would take away pete from street dreams' hard work...

-Has Street Dreams impoted the kit for the 1.8 Litre engine before?
So far the kit has only been fitted to the 2.0L engines although they are at the end of the day basically the same

-If so what Dyno figures have you seen with the 1.8 Litre?
N/A

-Is 130-135kw atw a realistic figure running 7psi boost?
Yes, depending on the type of fuel used and whether or not you are using a RRFPR to lift the fuel pressure slightly

-What sort of torque figures car we achieve in the 1.8 Litre?
N/A

-What sort of clutch would you recomend that we use?
The standard clutch will last a matter of weeks to months depending on the way you drive the car. I recommend the clutch that street dreams sell for the 2.0L and that is the ACT street clutch which is a full face organic disk has the same feel as a stock clutch but holds up to 350hp

-From the time of ordering the kit how long would it take to get to australia?
Depending on how hiboost is rolling them out at the time of ordering and shipping to SD and then onto the customer

-What is the official price for the Street Dreams 1.8 Litre kit?
As i said the ticket price is $8500... although at the time of ordering you will probably find it to be $6500-$8500 depending on the Aussie dollar, the price Haltechs are selling at and shipping... do not hold me to that price as i am not an official employee and things may change, at my last chat with pete today, he was finding ways to make the kits cheaper without sacrificing quality

-How much would you allow for a turbo back exhaust (im assuming the kit doesnt come with one) and what size exhaust would you use?
The kit comes with a 2 1/2" dump pipe and we recommend a 2 1/2" to 3" full system to get the most out of it...

-Also how long would you expect it to take three fully qualified mechanics to fit the kit (two of whic have experiance fitting turbo kits or working on turboed japaneese imports?
It would take no time at all.... we would recommend an hour on the dyno to quickly touch up the tune on the 1.8L just to make sure that the compression etc is all happy (a couple of hundred dollars could save you an engine - $15,240 from mazda for a full short block...lol)

-Will we have issues fitting the FMIC as it is designed for a sp20 style bumper?
I have no idea as we have not fitted it before

hope this helps

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Thanks wiredone you have really put things into perspective, man its hard for me cause there are so many options out there and im just not sure what to do i know i will be going with a kit but im just not sure who with, i am swaying towards street dreams because they are a local company and easy to contact unlike hiboost.

A couple of questions:

How does street dreams modify the kit for the 1.8 Litre engine?
Has Street Dreams impoted the kit for the 1.8 Litre engine before?
If so what Dyno figures have you seen with the 1.8 Litre?
Is 130-135kw atw a realistic figure running 7psi boost?
What sort of torque figures car we achieve in the 1.8 Litre?
What sort of clutch would you recomend that we use?
From the time of ordering the kit how long would it take to get to australia?
What is the official price for the Street Dreams 1.8 Litre kit?
How much would you allow for a turbo back exhaust (im assuming the kit doesnt come with one) and what size exhaust would you use?
Also how long would you expect it to take three fully qualified mechanics to fit the kit (two of whic have experiance fitting turbo kits or working on turboed japaneese imports?
Will we have issues fitting the FMIC as it is designed for a sp20 style bumper?
At the end of the day it all comes down to dollars and cents and i think street dreams will come out on top as there is alot of uncertainty with the Hiboost kit.

I understand if you cant answer some of my questions but it would be greatly appreaciated if you can help me out wiredone, as i intend on getting my car to Autosalon next year and the turbo is a major aspect of my plans.

Cheers Tidy
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Old 26-10-2004, 08:19 PM   #30
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Hi Wiredone,

I am glad you have come to the party (or atleast represent those who may), as our interest will lay with those who intend on trying hard to win our business at the end of the day with service and results.
I should also add for those who do not know, this pol is not an isolated one-off to find out how people feel about turbocharging in general. But a segway to an intended Group Buy of hopefully 7-10 kits from the successfull company which desires our business most.
But as with most GB's there is an expectation of an attractive price reduction, I don't see that being a problem with a ~$50-70k GB, and realistically would be necessary to make this a reality for most people. I just thought I'd mention that upfront before people got the idea this is something that would be done in dribs and drabs...
I do not understand the relationship between HiBoost and Streetdreams, however I hope there is a good enough communication between them to support the right hardware for the 1.8 FP. We have been in contact with Juan of HB and are aware of some of the aspects that need addressing for the smaller motor.
I believe it would be a significant advantage to us if Street Dreams is prepared to support us on such a large scale purchase. I would not be surprised if this GB will double the sales of the SD turbo kit to date. So once again there will be a great deal of expectation from us the consumer to the quality and stability of the product vs a custom kit just thrown together.
I am concerned that SD has not seen any 1.8s and I'd hazard to guess automatics aswell! In this area we have a problem and will need NO BS results here that aren't based on guesses, HB have done their share of autos and know what limits that are imposed. There WILL be a couple of autos on the GB, so trannie coolers amoung others will need to be addressed and carefully thought through and costed.

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Old 27-10-2004, 03:32 PM   #31
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1.8 equal lenght headers and gt30 or 32 turbo

can street dreams supply a turbo kit for my gtr familia with a astina head conversion (the full metal tappit cover) to a equal length headers and a gt30 or 32 , sorry to hijack the post but i thought it would make a good area to ask.
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Old 28-10-2004, 08:20 PM   #32
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common people post your plans the only way we can help you is if you let us help you if we all pool our contacts and knowledge and we will all benifit.

I personally am aiming about 135 kw atw, how i plan to it at this stage is buy a either a Street Dreams kit or the American HiBoost Kit, fit a 2.5' exhaust and a Heavy Duty Clutch (not sure what brand yet) All of which i want done for less than 8500 but 9000 at the max including EVERYTHING

After that i want to do the interior (custom grey and black leather) the exterior im getting new wheels (probably the mx5 se wheels) and the list goes on
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Old 28-10-2004, 11:07 PM   #33
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I'm wanting the fun of installing a turbo kit and learning all about tuning, building a turbo timer etc, plus the fun of driving it too!!! I'll go with what ever kit we group buy, so long as we get a good price, about $9000 would be max for me too...
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Old 28-10-2004, 11:18 PM   #34
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Hey guys,

Probably not wise to start throwing around ideas of $9000 budgets at this stage I think... There will be special considerations for the manuals and autos that will add to the total cost of the kits, But $9k is extremely steep even after a group buy thank you very much...
Personally I want to see the Ozzie StreetDreams kit for $6500 minimum on GB, no stuffing around. Then you can add your clutches, and oil coolers from there. If I can't do it for $7500-8000 installed when there is a GB discount, count me out... Otherwise what's the point?

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Old 28-10-2004, 11:42 PM   #35
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Well, the cheaper the better, and the more likly people are to go into a group buy, $9k would be max what I can spend though, as anything more can't really be written off as a toy anymore, you kind of need to be serious...
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Hey guys,

Probably not wise to start throwing around ideas of $9000 budgets at this stage I think... There will be special considerations for the manuals and autos that will add to the total cost of the kits, But $9k is extremely steep even after a group buy thank you very much...
Personally I want to see the Ozzie StreetDreams kit for $6500 minimum on GB, no stuffing around. Then you can add your clutches, and oil coolers from there. If I can't do it for $7500-8000 installed when there is a GB discount, count me out... Otherwise what's the point?

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I agree.

To have my car ON the road with "EVERYTHING" I need for this set up and completed, I do not want to pay more than $7500.




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Old 29-10-2004, 08:46 AM   #37
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hi tidy protege , yeah if we pool knowledge it helps a lot , it would probably be good if we get a tech section with just straight walk throughs written up , then all they have to do is just read it, the best ones i've seen are on the 4age in various sites very informative. anyway i'm going for a fair bit more than the 135 atw that you are asking , i'm looking for more on the 300kw atw with my set up so i need a serious answer from the freinds of the street dreams place, or i will probably be going to the states for a kit i have seen there.
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Old 29-10-2004, 10:28 AM   #38
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As chicaboo has said i too would like to see the kit for 6500-7000, the 9000 figure is including everything no more to pay (full kit,turbo back exhaust,clutch, brakes,tunning and all the needed certification) , i dont want any unexpected price blowouts.

Ideally i would like to have it all done for 8000-8500 but i will stretch the budget to 9000 MAX DRIVEAWAY NO MORE TO PAY
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you forgot the money for the tyres you will fry on the first take off
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so true i already am well aquainted with the tyre shop
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