SP23 MPS VS Ford Focus XR5 turbo

DrSilver · 06-05-2006, 07:51 PM

What do you guys think?

184kw/380Nm for the SP23(2.3L 4 cylinders turbo) MPS and 166kw/320Nm kw for the XR5(2.5L 5 cylinders turbo) turbo!!!
Ford sucks!!!

platypus · 06-05-2006, 08:07 PM

i'd go with a 5 cyl - the way this is set up is to be most comparable to a v6 but with a much better efficiency - common for european cars for years

MitchEG · 06-05-2006, 08:08 PM

i think the ford will probably be the better car to drive hard
but i think the mazda would be better to own and live with

Rupewrecht · 06-05-2006, 08:13 PM

No, Ovlov sucks as the Ford uses a Volvo engine.

But there's a lot more aftermarket stuff around for the Volvo engine atm, and they're good for a lot more power

DrSilver · 06-05-2006, 08:21 PM

I would buy the mazda if I had the money. I dont really trust ford....the straight five turbo could be modified to produce more power though!
which one do you guys reckon would be a faster car and handle better stock?

Nate · 06-05-2006, 08:30 PM

thats like asking how long a piece of string is

there is only one way to find out and i nominate myself as the test subject

MitchEG · 06-05-2006, 08:50 PM

focus is likely to have the best handling, going on what has been said of past versions of the car...the problem with it is the looks and the interior quality are both not so good. oh and there is the ford brand image problem also.

Rupewrecht · 06-05-2006, 09:07 PM

I'd say they'd be pretty similar as they both (and the Volvo S series) all use the same chassis.

but yes, seat of the pant's is the only way to tell

boostedbatman · 07-05-2006, 07:20 AM

Clean or dirty pants test aye Dan

dfvadr · 07-05-2006, 12:41 PM

hey redastina in ur avatar , is that what sp20 struts can do for a std 323 " cool"

Fro-Daddy · 07-05-2006, 02:40 PM

gimme a vxr :P

the fact the fords engine is plastic (yea yea, it does have its benefits, but still looks dodge) would put me off...

if the mps came in a sedan i would get it...not a fan of the 3 hatch...

Laser the Amazer · 07-05-2006, 04:47 PM

if you saw the VXR on top gear I think you would be avoiding it

it may have more power, but has trouble getting it to the ground

whats the good of having all the power if you can't use it

Rob

Melbastina · 07-05-2006, 05:23 PM

I'd suffer the lower power and go for the golf GTI.

3 does not really do it for me, I like the focus but when it came time to hand over the money I dont think I could get a ford, and holden is similar, but worse.

platypus · 07-05-2006, 05:46 PM

i prefered the older R32 ...... mmmm V6 in a shoe box!!

MitchEG · 07-05-2006, 05:58 PM

Well, if it was my choice, im having a Megane 225 cup. Looks great, apparently now handles great and can put its power to the ground properly....i wonder about the ability of the 3mps to do this with all that torque.

Rupewrecht · 07-05-2006, 06:06 PM

Looks great ?!!?!??!

Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But then again i think the majority of french cars are ugly.

MitchEG · 07-05-2006, 06:07 PM

ahaha, i was waiting for it, less than 5min is all it took...I guess i am the only Australian person who likes it.

Ian · 07-05-2006, 06:17 PM

Yeah thats a bit of an eyesore, but if it go's, whos to argue?

chicaboo · 07-05-2006, 06:20 PM

To me the Megane is FUGly, it can't decide whether it's boot is round or square, I just wish it was one or the other and be done with it so it's looks weren't as objectionable. Add to the mix that most french cars have Z grade electronics in this country for some reason. I hear mostly bad reports from Renault and Peugeot owner's, but I understand Citreon are dodgey in some ways too...

Fro-Daddy · 07-05-2006, 07:14 PM

anyone got a link to the vxr on topgear? and not a torrent...

06-05-2006, 07:51 PM	#1
DrSilver Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Melbourne Car: Astra Sri T Posts: 660 View Photos By: DrSilver	SP23 MPS VS Ford Focus XR5 turbo What do you guys think? 184kw/380Nm for the SP23(2.3L 4 cylinders turbo) MPS and 166kw/320Nm kw for the XR5(2.5L 5 cylinders turbo) turbo!!! Ford sucks!!! Last edited by DrSilver; 06-05-2006 at 08:19 PM.

06-05-2006, 08:07 PM	#2
platypus living in the past man Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Newcastle, NSW Car: Subaru Outback 2.0 turbo Posts: 4,707	i'd go with a 5 cyl - the way this is set up is to be most comparable to a v6 but with a much better efficiency - common for european cars for years __________________ 1997 BG5 Subaru Outback - Now with STI boost...

06-05-2006, 08:13 PM	#4
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	No, Ovlov sucks as the Ford uses a Volvo engine. But there's a lot more aftermarket stuff around for the Volvo engine atm, and they're good for a lot more power __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

06-05-2006, 08:30 PM	#6
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06-05-2006, 09:07 PM	#8
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	I'd say they'd be pretty similar as they both (and the Volvo S series) all use the same chassis. but yes, seat of the pant's is the only way to tell __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

06-05-2006, 08:08 PM	#3
MitchEG AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brisbane, South Car: Cibicu Posts: 324	i think the ford will probably be the better car to drive hard but i think the mazda would be better to own and live with

06-05-2006, 08:21 PM	#5
DrSilver Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Melbourne Car: Astra Sri T Posts: 660 View Photos By: DrSilver	I would buy the mazda if I had the money. I dont really trust ford....the straight five turbo could be modified to produce more power though! which one do you guys reckon would be a faster car and handle better stock?

06-05-2006, 08:50 PM	#7
MitchEG AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brisbane, South Car: Cibicu Posts: 324	focus is likely to have the best handling, going on what has been said of past versions of the car...the problem with it is the looks and the interior quality are both not so good. oh and there is the ford brand image problem also.

07-05-2006, 07:20 AM	#9
boostedbatman Manpink Crusader Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stafford, Brisbane Car: 1990 GD mx6 F2T, and soon I might drive the batmoobile once again Posts: 2,280 View Photos By: boostedbatman	Clean or dirty pants test aye Dan __________________ The Batmobile as she used to be and now she hangs from a chain in the garage

07-05-2006, 12:41 PM	#10
dfvadr Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Queensland Car: ss , sp20 , 94ba Posts: 1,708 View Photos By: dfvadr	hey redastina in ur avatar , is that what sp20 struts can do for a std 323 " cool" __________________ 2001 SP20 Mazda Astina Turbo - t28b/b turbo teflon coated forge pistons 20thou o/size , billet rods , whole motor fully balanced - custom body kit - 18"ame's - custom interior - kenwood head unit , pioneer speakers driven by 800 watt amp , kicker subs driven by 1000 watt amps each sub [135.2db at supernats], two 1th caps 4 tv screens dvd player - xbox - airbag suspension with gas strut towers - custom plates an airbrushing on bonnet

07-05-2006, 02:40 PM	#11
Fro-Daddy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane Posts: 499 View Photos By: Fro-Daddy	gimme a vxr :P the fact the fords engine is plastic (yea yea, it does have its benefits, but still looks dodge) would put me off... if the mps came in a sedan i would get it...not a fan of the 3 hatch...

07-05-2006, 04:47 PM	#12
Laser the Amazer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wollongong Posts: 559	if you saw the VXR on top gear I think you would be avoiding it it may have more power, but has trouble getting it to the ground whats the good of having all the power if you can't use it Rob __________________ what do u write here again???

07-05-2006, 05:23 PM	#13
Melbastina AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nth Fitzroy, Melbourne Posts: 306	I'd suffer the lower power and go for the golf GTI. 3 does not really do it for me, I like the focus but when it came time to hand over the money I dont think I could get a ford, and holden is similar, but worse. __________________ BJ Astina (Shades pack) stock other than the K&N Panel Filter, Tint, Fog Lights, Clarion fronts, Alpine rears, scuff plates, clear side indicators, VisionPlus and silver vision globes.

07-05-2006, 05:46 PM	#14
platypus living in the past man Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Newcastle, NSW Car: Subaru Outback 2.0 turbo Posts: 4,707	i prefered the older R32 ...... mmmm V6 in a shoe box!! __________________ 1997 BG5 Subaru Outback - Now with STI boost...

07-05-2006, 05:58 PM	#15
MitchEG AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brisbane, South Car: Cibicu Posts: 324	Well, if it was my choice, im having a Megane 225 cup. Looks great, apparently now handles great and can put its power to the ground properly....i wonder about the ability of the 3mps to do this with all that torque.

07-05-2006, 06:06 PM	#16
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Looks great ?!!?!??! Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But then again i think the majority of french cars are ugly. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

07-05-2006, 06:07 PM	#17
MitchEG AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brisbane, South Car: Cibicu Posts: 324	ahaha, i was waiting for it, less than 5min is all it took...I guess i am the only Australian person who likes it.

07-05-2006, 06:17 PM	#18
Ian Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: neither here nor there Car: 1990 R32 GTR Posts: 1,289 View Photos By: Ian	Yeah thats a bit of an eyesore, but if it go's, whos to argue? __________________ Mah Ride! details

07-05-2006, 06:20 PM	#19
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	To me the Megane is FUGly, it can't decide whether it's boot is round or square, I just wish it was one or the other and be done with it so it's looks weren't as objectionable. Add to the mix that most french cars have Z grade electronics in this country for some reason. I hear mostly bad reports from Renault and Peugeot owner's, but I understand Citreon are dodgey in some ways too...

07-05-2006, 07:14 PM	#20
Fro-Daddy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane Posts: 499 View Photos By: Fro-Daddy	anyone got a link to the vxr on topgear? and not a torrent...

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